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DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Aug 14 @ 12:11 PM ET
question, since you are a Flames fan, do you think Mark Giordano can play into his 40's because he'll never experience any wear and tear on his body since he'll never play any springtime hockey his whole career?
- jimbro83


You are cute. Yes Gio will play into his 40's. And although my team has a playoff drought off about 4 months, which kinda debunks your point, I think Gio will still be functional near the end of his career.

Quick question, how many more years does the King have on his contract? Good thing he is still trending upwards......oh wait!

You seem to be looking for attention. You might want to try getting it from the ladies rather than hockey fans. Just an idea.
DARKSEID
Location: Apokolips!
Joined: 07.31.2017

Aug 14 @ 12:12 PM ET
hey, if we are going to go Stanley Cups in regards to this specific blog, there are only 3 guys on this top 20 list who have actually won one

there is a guy on this list who literally has missed the playoffs every single year of his career and his team then won the draft lottery

- jimbro83

Did your mother have you tested..?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 14 @ 12:12 PM ET
Run along now idiot! Maybe you can go to the mall & find a life size Zucarello doll to have in your bedroom.
- Kevin R


it's crazy though, have you ever thought about it?

Mark Giordano is going to be 34 years old and really has never played in a big hockey game his whole career

I am sure in pee-wees he played in a big game, he must have. Maybe not.

That's a good thing though. He is like a 24 year old 34 year old. You guys should be excited by that.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 14 @ 12:14 PM ET
You are cute. Yes Gio will play into his 40's. And although my team has a playoff drought off about 4 months, which kinda debunks your point, I think Gio will still be functional near the end of his career.

Quick question, how many more years does the King have on his contract? Good thing he is still trending upwards......oh wait!

You seem to be looking for attention. You might want to try getting it from the ladies rather than hockey fans. Just an idea.

- DuranDuran


yes, every single player on the Rangers in "trending downward" but every single year they reach 100 points, make the playoffs and generally win at least one round
DARKSEID
Location: Apokolips!
Joined: 07.31.2017

Aug 14 @ 12:15 PM ET
For the record, Sally (jimbro, since you're interested):

Teams I like: Detroit, Edmonton, LA, NYR, St. Louis, Tampa

Teams I hate: Chicago, Colorado, Montreal, Pittsburgh
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 14 @ 12:16 PM ET
For the record, Sally (jimbro, since you're interested):

Teams I like: Detroit, Edmonton, LA, NYR, St. Louis, Tampa

Teams I hate: Chicago, Colorado, Montreal, Pittsburgh

- DARKSEID


stop jinxing my (frank)ing team
DARKSEID
Location: Apokolips!
Joined: 07.31.2017

Aug 14 @ 12:19 PM ET
stop jinxing my (frank)ing team
- jimbro83

Yeah, like the Rangers were going to win a Cup before I typed that I like their organization... They are not winning it any time soon.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 14 @ 12:19 PM ET
Yeah, like the Rangers were going to win a Cup before I typed that I like their organization... They're not winning it any time soon.
- DARKSEID


I am gonna watch anyway, see what happens
DARKSEID
Location: Apokolips!
Joined: 07.31.2017

Aug 14 @ 12:21 PM ET
I am gonna watch anyway, see what happens
- jimbro83

They'll lose because of asset mismanagement.

Stepan > Zibanejad
Zo0by
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Gatineau, QC
Joined: 06.18.2009

Aug 14 @ 12:23 PM ET
Pavelski a winger ? OK !
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 14 @ 12:24 PM ET
Could have been 8th I guess ahead of Buffalo Bill (Laine) and Panarin, but I would take him over Marchand any day
- DinoRondelly


Idk IMO JG is pegged about right.
As for Marchand he's pretty damn good all around.
Scores & on the PK & a fire plug like him or not.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 14 @ 12:25 PM ET
They'll lose because of asset mismanagement.

Stepan > Zibanejad

- DARKSEID


they turned Stepan into Lias Andersson, Anthony DeAngelo and used the cap savings to sign Kevin Shattenkirk

you couldn't ask for better asset management
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 14 @ 12:26 PM ET
they turned Stepan into Lias Andersson, Anthony DeAngelo and used the cap savings to sign Kevin Shattenkirk

you couldn't ask for better asset management

- jimbro83


Hard to argue against that 👍
shoreorrpark
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 14 @ 12:31 PM ET
I am gonna watch anyway, see what happens
- jimbro83

I'll save you some time.
Rangers reach 100pts and lose in the 1st round.
The King, Hobbit, and McDunno all out play every other player in their respected positions throughout the league.
Rangers get little or no respect on Hockeybuzz lists.
You female dog and moan about the perceived slight.
We laugh and carry on.
AV should get some coaching love when the lads throw that list together, so you have that at least.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Aug 14 @ 12:32 PM ET
Idk IMO JG is pegged about right.
As for Marchand he's pretty damn good all around.
Scores & on the PK & a fire plug like him or not.

- Nighthawk

Id take Marchand any day of the week over Johnny! Hoping Sam or Mathew turns into a bit of Brad!
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 14 @ 12:33 PM ET
I'll save you some time.
Rangers reach 100pts and lose in the 1st round.
The King, Hobbit, and McDunno all out play every other player in their respected positions throughout the league.
Rangers get little or no respect on Hockeybuzz lists.
You female dog and moan about the perceived slight.
We laugh and carry on.
AV should get some coaching love when the lads throw that list together, so you have that at least.

- shoreorrpark


you see that Marchand fight? that was crazy

K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Aug 14 @ 12:34 PM ET
you see that Marchand fight? that was crazy


- jimbro83

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 14 @ 12:35 PM ET
Id take Marchand any day of the week over Johnny! Hoping Sam or Mathew turns into a bit of Brad!
- K-man25


Kane is the better version of JG.
Marchand is # for # damn good even though his Bruins took us down.
I don't have to like him to admit he is good on any team.
shoreorrpark
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 14 @ 12:41 PM ET
you see that Marchand fight? that was crazy


- jimbro83

I love that clip.
Less female doging, and more entertaining vids would probably serve you a little better.
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Aug 14 @ 12:48 PM ET
Id take Marchand any day of the week over Johnny! Hoping Sam or Mathew turns into a bit of Brad!
- K-man25


I can't deny that Marchand has serious talent, he's one of the best. It's the other poop he does that makes people hate him. I can appreciate a good pest and I like players that play on the edge, but the poop Marchand pulls on a consistent basis don't belong in hockey

K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Aug 14 @ 12:52 PM ET
I can't deny that Marchand has serious talent, he's one of the best. It's the other poop he does that makes people hate him. I can appreciate a good pest and I like players that play on the edge, but the poop Marchand pulls on a consistent basis don't belong in hockey


- Saskabush

Not always legal but always comes to play!
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 14 @ 1:05 PM ET
Guys, all he does is spew the same argument.

He cannot recognize that a good player and a good team are not the same thing; that bad players can play on good teams and vice versa.

Just ignore it.
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Aug 14 @ 1:19 PM ET
they turned Stepan into Lias Andersson, Anthony DeAngelo and used the cap savings to sign Kevin Shattenkirk

you couldn't ask for better asset management

- jimbro83


Shattenkirk was terrible for the caps and the Blues did better without him...its not like he is gonna improve on that long term deal
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 14 @ 1:22 PM ET
I posted these over the last 5 years in the Devils thread, but to add some context to those rankings, I'm going to do the rankings over the last 3 years in here:

Top 20 Wings in Goals over the last 3 years:

1 - Alex Ovechkin
2 - Vladimir Tarasenko
3 - Patrick Kane
T4 - Jamie Benn
T4 - Max Pacioretty
6 - Brad Marchand
7 - Nikita Kucheroc
8 - Wayne Simmonds
9 - Filip Forsberg
10 - Corey Perry
11 - Cam Atkinson
12 - Jeff Skinner
13 - Mike Hoffman
14 - Rick Nash
T15 - Brandon Saad
T15 - Blake Wheeler
T15 - T.J. Oshie
T18 - James Neal
T18 - Zach Parise
20 - Tomas Tatar


Same thing, but Points:

1 - Patrick Kane
2 - Jamie Benn
3 - Vladimir Tarasenko
4 - Alex Ovechkin
5 - Nikita Kucherov
6 - Blake Wheeler
7 - Johnny Gaudreau
8 - Max Pacioretty
9 - Jakub Voracek
10 - Phil Kessel
11 - Brad Marchand
12 - Filip Forsberg
13 - Henrik Zetterberg
14 - Daniel Sedin
15 - Mark Stone
16 - Corey Perry
17 - Mats Zuccarello
18 - Mike Hoffman
19 - Alexander Steen
20 - Wayne Simmonds

If you wanted to go by Points Per Game then Laine, Wheeler and Gaudreau are all in the same spot in the top 10.

flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Aug 14 @ 1:22 PM ET
Id take Marchand any day of the week over Johnny! Hoping Sam or Mathew turns into a bit of Brad!
- K-man25


He is also a older and coming off a career season...he wasn't putting up 70+ points at the age of 22

Today the list is fair, in a couple years my money would be on JG to be a far superior player. His first 3 seasons in the NHL he has more points than Marchand during that same time period. (the best of Marchands career)
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