They also get mad when you say Slavin is better than Skjei.

They think that people hate on Rangers players just because they're Rangers players... It's a real weird "Us against the world" mentality.
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An original thought for sure

Id take karlson every day of the week over Doughty.
- ClarksonDavid

that's your opinion.

doughty is a proven champion and karlson never will be in my opinion.

that's your opinion.

doughty is a proven champion and karlson never will be in my opinion.
- prock

Because ottawa is poop. Not his fault

They also get mad when you say Slavin is better than Skjei.

They think that people hate on Rangers players just because they're Rangers players... It's a real weird "Us against the world" mentality.
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you're the one whose only comment when I said Skjei was better than Slavin was "Lol"

like it was the most ridiculous thing you ever heard

same draft, Skjei was a first rounder, Slavin was a 4th

Skjei just finished an incredible rookie season that dwarfed Slavins

you're the one whose only comment when I said Skjei was better than Slavin was "Lol"

like it was the most ridiculous thing you ever heard

same draft, Skjei was a first rounder, Slavin was a 4th

Skjei just finished an incredible rookie season that dwarfed Slavins
- jimbro83

Again. Same age. Slavin plays way more minutes and has way better defensive stats with almost identical offensive ones.

Your only argument was that Skjei played in the playoffs and scored 4 goals....

I like Skjei. I think he's a hell of a talent. He's not on the same level defensively as Slavin though. Yet, at least.

you're the one whose only comment when I said Skjei was better than Slavin was "Lol"

like it was the most ridiculous thing you ever heard

same draft, Skjei was a first rounder, Slavin was a 4th

Skjei just finished an incredible rookie season that dwarfed Slavins
- jimbro83

I know they are the same age you dumbass, but Skjei was a rookie last year, Slavin was in his second year, you (frank)ing moron, OMG
- jimbro83

So Skjei is better because it took him longer to make the NHL? How the (frank) does that make sense?

So Skjei is better because it took him longer to make the NHL? How the (frank) does that make sense?
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here is the overall point, your REACTION to me saying Skjei was better Slavin was as if it was the most ridiculous thing you have ever heard

it's a debatable topic, not something to just laugh at and dismiss

do you possibly understand this?

oh great, I gotta deal with this ass hole and you put up a picture of Hamrlik
- jimbro83

here is the overall point, your REACTION to me saying Skjei was better Slavin was as if it was the most ridiculous thing you have ever heard

it's a debatable topic, not something to just laugh at and dismiss

do you possibly understand this?
- jimbro83

I think it's debatable as to who WILL be better, but as of this moment I don't think it's very close.

I think it's debatable as to who WILL be better, but as of this moment I don't think it's very close.
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because of those 20 giveaways in the playoffs I know

- 21peter

Still laughing 2 mins later


Sorry

Still laughing 2 mins later


Sorry
- 21peter

because of those 20 giveaways in the playoffs I know
- jimbro83

No.... because:

Hits:
Skjei - 147
Slavin - 35

Blocked Shots:
Skjei - 69
Slavin - 161

Giveaways:
Skjei - 51
Slavin - 54

Takeaways:
Skjei - 17
Slavin - 83

Average TOI:
Skjei - 17:28
Slavin - 23:26

CF%
Skjei - 50.6%
Slavin - 52.8%

Slavin played 10x as many minutes shorthanded on one of the best PK's in the league.

Skjei had 110 PP minutes vs. Slavin's 76.

Skjei started nearly 60% of his shifts in the offensive zone. Slavin start 52% of his in the D zone.

Overall, Slavin had one of the heaviest workload's in the league and performed the same or better than Skjei in almost all aspects, save hits.

Skjei played significantly fewer, and more sheltered minutes, on a much better team. And while he hit more and got a few more assists, Skjei was nowhere near the same level anywhere else.

No.... because:

Hits:
Skjei - 147
Slavin - 35

Blocked Shots:
Skjei - 69
Slavin - 161

Giveaways:
Skjei - 51
Slavin - 54

Takeaways:
Skjei - 17
Slavin - 83

Average TOI:
Skjei - 17:28
Slavin - 23:26

CF%
Skjei - 50.6%
Slavin - 52.8%

Slavin played 10x as many minutes shorthanded on one of the best PK's in the league.

Skjei had 110 PP minutes vs. Slavin's 76.

Skjei started nearly 60% of his shifts in the offensive zone. Slavin start 52% of his in the D zone.

Overall, Slavin had one of the heaviest workload's in the league and performed the same or better than Skjei in almost all aspects, save hits.

Skjei played significantly fewer, and more sheltered minutes, on a much better team. And while he hit more and got a few more assists, Skjei was nowhere near the same level anywhere else.
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I really don't know how we were such a "much better team"

everytime one of these blogs comes out with a top 5 and I even hint a Ranger should be considered, all I ever get is a LOL

I think one of the reasons why you advanced stat nutballs hate the Rangers so much is that they kill the fancy stat argument

7 straight years in the playoffs

two conference finals, 1 cup final

10 overall playoff series wins the last 10 years

all their players suck constantly in advanced stats, every single time

the NYR always kill the theory that these stats are important

I think one of the reasons why you advanced stat nutballs hate the Rangers so much is that they kill the fancy stat argument

7 straight years in the playoffs

two conference finals, 1 cup final

10 overall playoff series wins the last 10 years

all their players suck constantly in advanced stats, every single time

the NYR always kill the theory that these stats are important
- jimbro83

I think sometimes people get caught up in the idea that the stats make a team good, but in reality it is good teams end up with good stats.

Rangers have 0 cups in that span so I wouldn't say they exactly kill the advanced stats idea.

So Skjei is better because it took him longer to make the NHL? How the (frank) does that make sense?
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hard to argue with you being a dumbass, though.

I think one of the reasons why you advanced stat nutballs hate the Rangers so much is that they kill the fancy stat argument

7 straight years in the playoffs

two conference finals, 1 cup final

10 overall playoff series wins the last 10 years

all their players suck constantly in advanced stats, every single time

the NYR always kill the theory that these stats are important
- jimbro83

and its the same reason why the rangers have fallen short each and every time.

It's all just opinion but in my opinion, Drew Doughty is the best defenseman in the NHL. If he played more wide open he could drastically improve his point output and he is a dominant player away from the puck.

James Tanner blogs the same way Arizona manages. You want to give them the benefit of the doubt then they overpay (OEL over Burns? really?) for decent talent then are all over place everywhere else. I guess he didn't understand what top 5 meant.

A lot of homer love for Alberta teams and some pity points for OEL.

No defenseman from Edmonton, Calgary, or Ari should be considered top 5 in the west. Heck, you could argue Nashville's top 4 is better than guys from those teams.

Kieth
Suter
Peit
Vlasic and Burns
Josi and Subban
Buff
Doughty

All pretty amazing. You bring in names like Hamilton, Gio, Klef, and OEL and you may as well open the flood gates. Larsson belongs in the same group as Gio and OEL IMO.
- Aerchon

Larsson isn't anywhere really close to oel. It's nothing close to pity points. This is an objective fact based on pretty much every tangible facet one can look at both statistically and by eye. It's crazy that you think this. And I'm not a Larsson hater or totally against the hall trade. It proved a little more reasonable than I originally thought.

Buff in that group is insane too. And certainly not ahead of gio or Hamilton. Buff isn't even the best defender in his own team. Trouba is the superior player at all aspects save the pp.


No attack intended really, but Imo, anyone who doesn't put oel at or at least near the top of any list of the conferences best defenders, really doesn't know what they're talking about. Burns and doughty are the only ones I'll entertain as potentially better. And even burns isn't nearly as effective defensively, he just scores at such an insane rate, it's criminal to not put him among the very elite class

Klefbom got more love than I expected. Not sure among the true elites just yet, but he's damn close. Him and Larsson are a quality top pair

Easily. He wasn't this past year, but he is still the best (in the league, IMO).

Possibly the best defensively in the league (def top 5), and still hovers around top 10 or 15 in dman scoring.

No other dman in the league can say they are among the top 10 dman in the league at both ends of the ice.

(again, yes, he had a poopty year, I know)
- prock

Victor Hedman.

you're the one whose only comment when I said Skjei was better than Slavin was "Lol"

like it was the most ridiculous thing you ever heard

same draft, Skjei was a first rounder, Slavin was a 4th

Skjei just finished an incredible rookie season that dwarfed Slavins
- jimbro83

The reason you only got a "Lol" is because that's what your statement deserved. Slavin is unequivocally the better and more proven Dman right now. Already taking on top opposition with Pesce, playing pretty stifling defense and adding very strong 5-on-5 production.

Ignorance doesn't justify your opinion.