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Dannyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.25.2010

Aug 10 @ 1:47 PM ET
1. Karlsson
2. Hedman
3. Letang (Oft injured but still one of the best)
4. Weber
5. Ekblad (Florida had a down year and so did Ekblad. Regardless, still top 5 in the East)
nyislsbossy
Joined: 05.31.2016

Aug 10 @ 1:47 PM ET
weber anyone????
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 10 @ 1:47 PM ET
And now a Canes fan stumbles in, and cries relevancy
- puckhead17


if you dont make the playoffs, your guy won't have any giveaways in april or may
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 10 @ 1:48 PM ET
well, I guess if your guy isn't playing he can't give the puck away
- jimbro83


Skjei played 23 minutes shorthanded last year.

Slavin played 255.

But no, you're right, we should definitely measure players by how far their team went in the playoffs.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 10 @ 1:48 PM ET
Skjei played 23 minutes shorthanded last year.

Slavin played 255.

But no, you're right, we should definitely measure players by how far their team went in the playoffs.

- BINGO!


if Slavin scored 4 goals in the playoffs you wouldn't mention it?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 10 @ 1:51 PM ET
look at this play, rookie in a 2nd round playoff game

puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Aug 10 @ 1:51 PM ET
Skjei played 23 minutes shorthanded last year.

Slavin played 255.

But no, you're right, we should definitely measure players by how far their team went in the playoffs.

- BINGO!


You go man, 12 years is a long time to wait to thump your chest in a hockey debate.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 10 @ 1:51 PM ET
And Karlsson in the playoffs almost willed his team to the SCF on a broken foot.
- Victoro311


hedman is just better all round to me.

karlsson to me is 2nd best in the east to hedman.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 10 @ 1:55 PM ET
if Slavin scored 4 goals in the playoffs you wouldn't mention it?
- jimbro83


No, probably not. Because you can't really compare when there's nothing to compare to.

Do you want to go by +/-? Slavin managed to be a +23 in front of some of the worst goaltending in the league while also playing on one of the lowest scoring teams...

Only reason the team didn't have more goals against was because the PK was so good. 6th in the NHL, in fact. Guess who was 5th in the NHL in shorthanded ice time?
DARKSEID
Location: Apokolips!
Joined: 07.31.2017

Aug 10 @ 1:55 PM ET
the last game of the playoffs for Ottawa, game 7 vs Pittsburgh, Karlsson played with a significant injury, played 39:33, no other player on either team was even close in minutes

Karlsson plays in every situation and excels

- jimbro83

Which team won the series, though?
dr_soiledpants
Calgary Flames
Location: Watrous, SK
Joined: 08.15.2015

Aug 10 @ 1:56 PM ET
hedman is just better all round to me.

karlsson to me is 2nd best in the east to hedman.

- Tumbleweed


Hedman is no doubt amazingly skilled. I just don't think he's quite at the level karlsson is. In a year from now, two at most I completely agree with you.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 10 @ 1:58 PM ET
Which team won the series, though?
- DARKSEID


OMG, it went to overtime game 7 and Pittsburgh has 9000 all stars and Ottawa has Karlsson
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 10 @ 1:59 PM ET
No, probably not. Because you can't really compare when there's nothing to compare to.

Do you want to go by +/-? Slavin managed to be a +23 in front of some of the worst goaltending in the league while also playing on one of the lowest scoring teams...

Only reason the team didn't have more goals against was because the PK was so good. 6th in the NHL, in fact. Guess who was 5th in the NHL in shorthanded ice time?

- BINGO!


nah, you wouldn't be thrilled if Slavin had scored 4 playoff goals in his rookie season, you'd have been very quiet about it
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 10 @ 1:59 PM ET
Do you want to talk about how Skjei managed to give the puck away 20 times in those same 12 playoff games?

But hey, if you think a defenseman shooting 21% is sustainable...

- BINGO!

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 10 @ 2:00 PM ET
OMG, it went to overtime game 7 and Pittsburgh has 9000 all stars and Ottawa has Karlsson
- jimbro83


1. phaneuf
2. phaneuf
3. phaneuf
4. phaneuf
5. karlsson
DARKSEID
Location: Apokolips!
Joined: 07.31.2017

Aug 10 @ 2:00 PM ET
OMG, it went to overtime game 7 and Pittsburgh has 9000 all stars and Ottawa has Karlsson
- jimbro83

Karlsson just learned to play defense recently. It'll take him a while to master that skill. He's not the best defender and he's not the best overall defenseman. Hedman is an elite defender with well-above-average offense in his game. He is the best in the East.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 10 @ 2:01 PM ET

- YuenglingJagr


I think sustainable is becoming one of most overused terms on hockey blogs

it's catching up to "sheltered minutes" and "drives possession"
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 10 @ 2:02 PM ET
Karlsson just learned to play defense recently. It'll take him a while to master that skill. He's not the best defender and he's not the best overall defenseman. Hedman is an elite defender with well-above-average offense in his game. He is the best in the East.
- DARKSEID


but Tampa lost to Pittsburgh in conference finals too didn't they?

wasn't that the criteria to chop Karlsson down a couple of notches?
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 10 @ 2:02 PM ET
I think sustainable is becoming one of most overused terms on hockey blogs

it's catching up to "sheltered minutes" and "drives possession"

- jimbro83


Let me put it this way.... Do you think it is likely that Skjei continues to have 1 out of every 5 shots go in the net?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 10 @ 2:03 PM ET
Let me put it this way.... Do you think it is likely that Skjei continues to have 1 out of every 5 shots go in the net?
- BINGO!


did you watch that clip I put up? did you think that was a lucky goal or was it skill?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 10 @ 2:04 PM ET
but Tampa lost to Pittsburgh in conference finals too didn't they?

wasn't that the criteria to chop Karlsson down a couple of notches?

- jimbro83


hedman dominates at all aspects of the game.

karlsson being dominated in the dzone by crosby, which he still struggles with against other players, is the criteria to knock him down below hedman imo.
DARKSEID
Location: Apokolips!
Joined: 07.31.2017

Aug 10 @ 2:06 PM ET
but Tampa lost to Pittsburgh in conference finals too didn't they?

wasn't that the criteria to chop Karlsson down a couple of notches?

- jimbro83

You are the one that introduced the playoff outcomes. Bury yourself much?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 10 @ 2:07 PM ET
You are the one that introduced the playoff outcomes. Bury yourself much?
- DARKSEID


only in a way that illustrates Karlsson is a virtual one man team that took the Penguins to game 7 overtime in conference finals playing on one foot
DARKSEID
Location: Apokolips!
Joined: 07.31.2017

Aug 10 @ 2:10 PM ET
only in a way that illustrates Karlsson is a virtual one man team that took the Penguins to game 7 overtime in conference finals playing on one foot
- jimbro83

Oh, yeah, Karlsson played all 18 skater positions and goalie in that playoff series. He is obviously an unfathomable poly-dimensional player.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 10 @ 2:13 PM ET
and Ryan McDonagh shut him down when the Rangers eliminated the Pens in 2014 and 2015

but lets leave him off

- jimbro83


Rangers fans love living in the past huh? 94, nevermore.
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