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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 10 @ 12:53 PM ET
hard to say...gagner and mdz were low risk signings. but not exactly tdl fodder either. i'm still not sure of the direction benning is taking.

we'll see what they do with the sedins. it's time to move on.

- Tumbleweed

They're simply more offensive players to try and make the product a bit more entertaining while they build through the draft, nothing more.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 10 @ 12:53 PM ET
Every single time I see "Franson" posted anywhere I lose a few years off my life ffs.

Can this fat (frank) just sign somewhere with someone not within 300KM of my location immediately.

- Bigzby



I always liked Franson.....except his speed...but his offensive play in the oppositions end was always pretty good.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 10 @ 1:00 PM ET
Every single time I see "Franson" posted anywhere I lose a few years off my life ffs.

Can this fat (frank) just sign somewhere with someone not within 300KM of my location immediately.

- Bigzby

Franson wasn't all that bad. Franson was at least better than Hunwick. Franson could shoot pretty well and play well in the offensive zone. Franson, Franson, Franson




Franson
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 10 @ 1:02 PM ET
They're simply more offensive players to try and make the product a bit more entertaining while they build through the draft, nothing more.
- LeftCoaster


signing plugs to 1-year deals that other gm's overpay for at the TDL would expedite the rebuild, rather than draging it out with a slightly more entertaining product.

gagner reminds me of the leafs signing tim connolly.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 10 @ 1:02 PM ET
hard to say...gagner and mdz were low risk signings. but not exactly tdl fodder either. i'm still not sure of the direction benning is taking.

we'll see what they do with the sedins. it's time to move on.

- Tumbleweed


Vancouver is a hot hockey market, Aquilini is a terrible owner. Basically a big cheapskate. Canucks make tons of money, have excellent fan support - with the cap you can spend only so much on the team - but on management there is no cap. Benning is lousy but he's cheap. Travis Green has never coached an NHL game but he's cheap. Did Aquilini hire the best guys at either position - not a chance. Therefore he is a terrible owner.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 10 @ 1:03 PM ET
This is true, bad ownership is ultimately responsible. It is not Benning's fault that he is a moron. Leaf fans that remember Ballard will attest to how bad ownership can poison a team. Buffalo also has an idiot for an owner, we have a pool at work as to when then next coaching/GM firing happens in Buffalo. I also remember a client in Chicago used to take me Blackhawk games when Bill Wirtz Sr. was the owner - place was absolutely electric - loud, raucious fans - but he was known as dollar Bill for a reason - they never won under dollar bill. When he died, his son Rocky hired Tallon, later Bowman, Quenville and started spending money -and treating former stars like good owners should (namely Hull and Makita)- and they won cups.
- winsix


agreed.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 10 @ 1:04 PM ET
signing plugs to 1-year deals that other gm's overpay for at the TDL would expedite the rebuild, rather than draging it out with a slightly more entertaining product.

gagner reminds of leafs signing tim connolly.

- Tumbleweed

They're gonna finish near last again, they have all their picks, hopefully they find some players through the draft.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 10 @ 1:08 PM ET
They're gonna finish near last again, they have all their picks, hopefully they find some players through the draft.
- LeftCoaster


this is a year to bottom out. sounds like a couple really good players in the top 2

matthews accelerated our rebuild. if we picked 4 that year and ended up with puljavari, the leafs would be still tanking for this year's draft too.

gotta maximize your chances of getting in the top 2.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 10 @ 1:12 PM ET
this is a year to bottom out. sounds like a couple really good players in the top 2

matthews accelerated our rebuild. if we picked 4 that year and ended up with puljavari, the leafs would be still tanking for this year's draft too.

gotta maximize your chances of getting in the top 2.

- Tumbleweed

There's a lot of luck involved now, Leafs had an 80% chance of not picking first, yet they won anyways....that's luck.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 10 @ 1:14 PM ET
There's a lot of luck involved now, Leafs had an 80% chance of not picking first, yet they won anyways....that's luck.
- LeftCoaster



But still had the highest chance to pick 1st. almost double what the 29th team did...
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 10 @ 1:14 PM ET
There's a lot of luck involved now, Leafs had an 80% chance of not picking first, yet they won anyways....that's luck.
- LeftCoaster


agreed. but we still maxed out our chances.

and we maximized turnover of our roster for tdl assets.

nucks are doing neither.
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Aug 10 @ 1:16 PM ET
agreed. after the top 3, who are all top 4 guys, our defense was basically 6-7 guys last year.

hopefully with hainsey in and carrick stepping up, we can see some improvement.

- Tumbleweed


You know it's funny I expect Hunwick to have a real good season in Pittsburgh. He played the best hockey of his life against Washington.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 10 @ 1:17 PM ET

- RickJames77



LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 10 @ 1:18 PM ET
agreed. but we still maxed out our chances.

and we maximized turnover of our roster for tdl assets.

nucks are doing neither.

- Tumbleweed

Hard to finish dead last when you have equally as incompetent managers like Sakic in the league
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 10 @ 1:21 PM ET
You know it's funny I expect Hunwick to have a real good season in Pittsburgh. He played the best hockey of his life against Washington.
- Blazed



It won't hurt with the forwards on that team either...might make it a little easier to get the puck out etc.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 10 @ 1:21 PM ET
Hard to finish dead last when you have equally as incompetent managers like Sakic in the league
- LeftCoaster


True - but there is still the element of good luck with the ping pong balls - which haven't exactly rolled in favour of the Canucks last two years.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 10 @ 1:22 PM ET
You know it's funny I expect Hunwick to have a real good season in Pittsburgh. He played the best hockey of his life against Washington.
- Blazed


nah.

hunwick sucks.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 10 @ 1:22 PM ET
Hard to finish dead last when you have equally as incompetent managers like Sakic in the league
- LeftCoaster

winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 10 @ 1:24 PM ET
nah.

hunwick sucks.

- Tumbleweed


Big time
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 10 @ 1:24 PM ET
True - but there is still the element of good luck with the ping pong balls - which haven't exactly rolled in favour of the Canucks last two years.
- winsix

Even incompetent (frank)s like Kevin Lowe and Jim Benning can get lucky I guess.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 10 @ 1:31 PM ET
Even incompetent (frank)s like Kevin Lowe and Jim Benning can get lucky I guess.
- LeftCoaster

I actually think Benning is a great GM for the Canucks and should stay there for years to come!









ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Aug 10 @ 1:33 PM ET
Respectfully disagree, Trouba was an extra on team North America while the top three d-men on the team were Reilly, Gostibehere and Parayko. And Lindholm - didn't make the Swedish team. We'll see down the road.
- winsix

Wasnt ekblad north americas number 1 guy? I cant really remember but those teams arent always picked right anyway. Im happy with Rielly, id like to see him used on the PP more. He also seems like a really solid pro, works his ass off.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 10 @ 1:33 PM ET
In every way by Miles?
No.
Better perhaps.
Not by Miles.

But Gardiner is the best right?

- Fakepartofme


You forget that hyperbole is Tanner's default literary device, because it's the best way to make a point by a mile and it's not even close.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Aug 10 @ 1:34 PM ET
You know it's funny I expect Hunwick to have a real good season in Pittsburgh. He played the best hockey of his life against Washington.
- Blazed

Its scary that both leaf fans and pens fans are happy with switching Hainsey for Hunwick makes me laugh
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 10 @ 1:35 PM ET
Wasnt ekblad north americas number 1 guy? I cant really remember but those teams arent always picked right anyway. Im happy with Rielly, id like to see him used on the PP more. He also seems like a really solid pro, works his ass off.
- ClarksonDavid
Did not play - injured

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