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Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 8 @ 4:24 PM ET
My only concern on signing a C is term. Sedin's are the only ones that will come (stay) on 1 year deals. I like Bailey as a Sutter replacement, if they can do something to that effect I would be very happy
- WhiteLie


So would the Islanders and their fans. How Bailey would be cheaper and more effective then Sutter on two way game is harder to understand.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 8 @ 4:24 PM ET
I'll argue that they are both 2nd line players at best.
- manvanfan


no kidding.

we have to show a little more patience.

no more long term overpaying contracts for 2nd tier ufa's.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 8 @ 4:25 PM ET
Crazy to think everybody so high on Turris yet Bo was only 3 points behind on a pooptier team. Bo took 200 more faceoffs then Turris did.

Turris 6 years at 6.25

- manvanfan

It's criminal how much folks underate Horvat
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Aug 8 @ 4:25 PM ET
We are under strict orders from Captains. EO to behave, so you may want to beat it before he comes along and bans your sorry butt.
- Reubenkincade


I got a ban for questioning someone's medical degree, so there is some truth to this.

I thought Lind looked better than Gadjovich in the Juniors, never even heard of this kid until we drafted him. It's great to have both of them, very different players.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 8 @ 4:29 PM ET
I got a ban for questioning someone's medical degree, so there is some truth to this.

I thought Lind looked better than Gadjovich in the Juniors, never even heard of this kid until we drafted him. It's great to have both of them, very different players.

- Crazybagoham


the summer showcase?

Gadjovich got some favourable reviews for his limited role. that's great if Lind looked even better.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 8 @ 4:30 PM ET
Subban has no value. If an undersized dman cant make the worst team in the league then why would a better team pay a decent asset for his rights? He is probably worth a 4th round pick so we should keep him and hope he improves in Utica
- CanuckDon


Well that's part of the debate as he develops. It's timing of course and his type is coming into vogue so something might break there this season or next.
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Aug 8 @ 4:31 PM ET
It's criminal how much folks underate Horvat
- CanuckDon


I keep thinking the same thing, Turris is going to price himself out of Ottawa... and at that price I really dont want him. talking about a 6x6 for Turris is rediculous (though we did give that to LE, so what do I know ;.

Haters will hate but Bo is the future captain.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 8 @ 4:31 PM ET
It's criminal how much folks underate Horvat
- CanuckDon

It is. He's not a 1C yet. He's turned into a good 2C. All his stats show he is a very capable 2C before he even enters his prime years.
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Aug 8 @ 4:33 PM ET
the summer showcase?

Gadjovich got some favourable reviews for his limited role. that's great if Lind looked even better.

- hillbillydeluxe


Subway sandwich world juniors? Im not great with names
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 8 @ 4:37 PM ET
I keep thinking the same thing, Turris is going to price himself out of Ottawa... and at that price I really dont want him. talking about a 6x6 for Turris is rediculous (though we did give that to LE, so what do I know ;.

Haters will hate but Bo is the future captain.

- Crazybagoham


I'm in no rush to put that pressure on him.

Gudbranson has also been mentioned as a possible captain.

Brisebois maybe if he continues his development.

We can go awhile before giving anyone the C if need be.

(Turris is a 2c as much as Horvat is presently a 1c.)
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 8 @ 4:38 PM ET
I'll argue that they are both 2nd line players at best.
- manvanfan


Thought you might.
On this team they would be 1st line ELITE players.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 8 @ 4:40 PM ET
Typically you pay your best player more than the support player, unless youre prepared to pay Bo $6.5-7 AAV starting this year?
- WhiteLie


Bo is now so that doesn't factor into a Turris contract if there in July 2018. Anyway you usually overpay UFA's over RFA's with no arbitration rights. That's just the part of doing business to improve team by adding an asset not paid for by trade or draft pick.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Aug 8 @ 4:42 PM ET
Nylander carried by a 1OA lucky pick. Say no more
Ehlers on a non-playoff team that underachieves.
Larkin on a train wreck team.
Pastrnak was a solid find.👍

3 of those teams in a weak division.

- Nighthawk

Some say Nylander drives Matthews and not the other way around.
Others say Matthews was a bust and Laine was the right pick.
It's so hard to say to be fair.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 8 @ 4:49 PM ET
Virtanin is a huge bust. Like it's bad. 6th overall too wow. Can't even score in the ahl. He will be a welder by the time he's 30. Just a guess.
- Thunder_daddy



Flagged for purely posting to inflame ppl here
Rude & no manners & straight to poop disturbing.

nylander ehlers Larkin and pastrnak all taken after virtanin llooolllllooollll oh well 6th overall picks rarely work out anyways right? LOL
- Thunder_daddy


His next post being a POS
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Aug 8 @ 4:49 PM ET
Bo is now so that doesn't factor into a Turris contract if there in July 2018. Anyway you usually overpay UFA's over RFA's with no arbitration rights. That's just the part of doing business to improve team by adding an asset not paid for by trade or draft pick.
- Nuck4U


Most teams set their cap structure to pay their best players the most, outside ELC's I am having a tough time thinking of a team that doesnt pay its best players the most

Not to mention, Turris' birthday is next week. If he was to sign with Vancouver he would be 29 for his first game. Not exactly a young guy to hand a long term deal to
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 8 @ 4:54 PM ET
Thought you might.
On this team they would be 1st line ELITE players.

- Reubenkincade

Right now yes they would be, in the short future naaa.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Aug 8 @ 4:54 PM ET
Elias

https://twitter.com/Elias...status/894980951557775362
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 8 @ 4:54 PM ET
Subban has no value. If an undersized dman cant make the worst team in the league then why would a better team pay a decent asset for his rights? He is probably worth a 4th round pick so we should keep him and hope he improves in Utica
- CanuckDon

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 8 @ 4:56 PM ET
Most teams set their cap structure to pay their best players the most, outside ELC's I am having a tough time thinking of a team that doesnt pay its best players the most

Not to mention, Turris' birthday is next week. If he was to sign with Vancouver he would be 29 for his first game. Not exactly a young guy to hand a long term deal to

- WhiteLie

this whole Turris/ Tavares talk is ridiculous
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 8 @ 4:57 PM ET
I'll argue that they are both 2nd line players at best.
- manvanfan


Both are 2nd liners at worst unless on a deep team.
Turris 3C in Pitt say
Kane a top 6W anywhere imo
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 8 @ 4:57 PM ET

- Marwood

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Aug 8 @ 4:58 PM ET
this whole Turris/ Tavares talk is ridiculous
- CanuckDon


how did people come to the idea about this two specific players anyway?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 8 @ 5:00 PM ET
https://www.fanragsports....h-ivan-hlinka-tournament/
Joe veleno seems to be in every halinka report. This one has other players though.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 8 @ 5:00 PM ET
how did people come to the idea about this two specific players anyway?
- Codes1087

one word.....
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Vantel
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 8 @ 5:00 PM ET
It's criminal how much folks underate Horvat
- CanuckDon



Aaah i think with the Canucks being in such disarray & the roster turnover that was needed done by JB has gotten us to this point. Those knocking Bo r either know squat or know squat pick one 😜😂
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