I said we need to find a guy like Prust/Dorsett/Stewart etc. Not another Glass
- nyrangers9479

Tom! Hero charts, STAT!!!!!!

Thank God, Jan, that the Rangers owners aren't the Wilpons Their allowing of Daniel Murphy, after delaying in making him his initial qualifying offer, to simply walk away free to sign with Washington, will be remembered as their own similar "Midnight Massacre" like (Tom Seaver late 1970's trade) turning point of their ownership.
- RangerSaver

They lowballed Murphy. But he should have accepted the QO of $17 million as he actually cost himself money by taking 3/37 from Washington. He would have made a bundle this past offseason.

Pat Zachry, Doug Flynn, Steve Henderson and Dan Norman for Tom Seaver on June 15, 1977 thanks to Richard Young and M Donald Grant. The Midnight Massacre and I am still angry about it.

McDonagh says "Shattenkirk is wondrous with the puck"

McDonagh says "Shattenkirk is wondrous with the puck"
- jimbro83

Easily a top10 pairing in the league

Easily a top10 pairing in the league
- 21peter

Skjei and Smith? I agree!

Skjei and Smith? I agree!
- Tonybere

jimbo really going to bat over in the hotstove

jimbo really going to bat over in the hotstove
- mrn22

I know. There are some peculiar viewpoints over there.

And honestly, while I love McD and have a VERY short list of guys I'd trade him for, I can't say I agree with the people who have ranked him as high as #3 Dman in the East.

Skjei and Smith? I agree!
- Tonybere

Easily a top10 2nd pairing in the league

I know. There are some peculiar viewpoints over there.

And honestly, while I love McD and have a VERY short list of guys I'd trade him for, I can't say I agree with the people who have ranked him as high as #3 Dman in the East.
- Tonybere

he's better than Torey Krug and Risto Ristolainen

he's better than Torey Krug and Risto Ristolaenin
- jimbro83

Oh yes, he most certainly is. But, I would not rank him above Karlsson, or Hedman. And after that is does get kind of muddy. I don't know, as I think about it more, maybe there is a case for Mac at #3. I don't see enough of guys like Ekblad, Weber, Werenski or Slavin to say definitively. And between his injuries and my hatred for him, I won't put Letang ahead of him.
Maybe I spoke too soon...

Oh yes, he most certainly is. But, I would not rank him above Karlsson, or Hedman. And after that is does get kind of muddy. I don't know, as I think about it more, maybe there is a case for Mac at #3. I don't see enough of guys like Ekblad, Weber, Werenski or Slavin to say definitively. And between his injuries and my hatred for him, I won't put Letang ahead of him.
Maybe I spoke too soon...
- Tonybere

my personal top 5 defensemen in the East are:

Karlsson
Hedman
Weber
Letang
McDonagh

For those who might be interested...

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/...edirecting-pucks-1.826815

Not that I care for Yost, but I do care for Kreider!! Just not in a weird TPC way.

Oh yes, he most certainly is. But, I would not rank him above Karlsson, or Hedman. And after that is does get kind of muddy. I don't know, as I think about it more, maybe there is a case for Mac at #3. I don't see enough of guys like Ekblad, Weber, Werenski or Slavin to say definitively. And between his injuries and my hatred for him, I won't put Letang ahead of him.
Maybe I spoke too soon...
- Tonybere

I hate Letang as much as the next guy, but when healthy he is (frank)ing awesome.

I hate Letang as much as the next guy, but when healthy he is (frank)ing awesome.
- mdw7413

yes, agree

my personal top 5 defensemen in the East are:

Karlsson
Hedman
Weber
Letang
McDonagh
- jimbro83

Probably mine as well, although from #3 it's very close...

I know. There are some peculiar viewpoints over there.

And honestly, while I love McD and have a VERY short list of guys I'd trade him for, I can't say I agree with the people who have ranked him as high as #3 Dman in the East.
- Tonybere

gotta admit I was surprised I saw his name as much as I did.

my personal top 5 defensemen in the East are:

Karlsson
Hedman
Weber
Letang
McDonagh
- jimbro83

I really disagree with you on Weber. He was effective for about 1/3 of that series last spring against NYR. him being the big hulking guy with the cannon of a shot makes him stick out more than he should imo

I really disagree with you on Weber. He was effective for about 1/3 of that series last spring against NYR. him being the big hulking guy with the cannon of a shot makes him stick out more than he should imo
- mrn22

listen here you gorgeous bastard, the guy plays 30 minutes a game and we got lucky a few times in that series with a few posts on his shots

listen here you gorgeous bastard, the guy plays 30 minutes a game and we got lucky a few times in that series with a few posts on his shots
- jimbro83

listen here you gorgeous bastard, the guy plays 30 minutes a game and we got lucky a few times in that series with a few posts on his shots
- jimbro83

hahahaha

idk man. I just, dont know

listen here you gorgeous bastard, the guy plays 30 minutes a game and we got lucky a few times in that series with a few posts on his shots
- jimbro83

I don't think i'm going to able to argue with mrn anymore

I really disagree with you on Weber. He was effective for about 1/3 of that series last spring against NYR. him being the big hulking guy with the cannon of a shot makes him stick out more than he should imo
- mrn22

I don't know. I'd say the only thing he's not excellent at is skating and his awareness and positioning often make up for that.

I hate Letang as much as the next guy, but when healthy he is (frank)ing awesome.
- mdw7413

And dirty. REMeber that shot he gave Stalberg a few years back? Chris Simon would be proud

McDonagh says "Shattenkirk is wondrous with the puck"
- jimbro83

He did not look great as a D man in this year PO but he will contribute with some points.