Lol too many to even list!
- YuenglingJagr

If you can't list it then it doesn't exist, right?


Anyone who is objective and informed knows that there are plenty of examples. No need to make a list.

If you can't list it then it doesn't exist, right?


Anyone who is objective and informed knows that there are plenty of examples. No need to make a list.
- MJL

Yeah no sense spending time typing out a bunch of unnecessary words on a hockey forum

Yeah no sense spending time typing out a bunch of unnecessary words on a hockey forum
- YuenglingJagr

1. Mario Lemieux

Case closed

When Hextall says "absolutely not happening," it isn't happening.

When he says "I don't discuss trade talks," there's a chance.

This rumor falls in the first category. In fact, it's the exact type of deal he is adamant he will not make.
- bmeltzer

Hypothetical here...Let's say your the gm of a team like the coyotes or jets, etc a team that has an internal budget that isn't close to the ceiling. Claude giroux and his contract are available to you at no cost. You can either assume the deal or pass on it under two conditions, you cannot retain salary if you want to ever trade him, and you can't buy him out. What's your choice?

Hypothetical here...Let's say your the gm of a team like the coyotes or jets, etc a team that has an internal budget that isn't close to the ceiling. Claude giroux and his contract are available to you at no cost. You can either assume the deal or pass on it under two conditions, you cannot retain salary if you want to ever trade him, and you can't buy him out. What's your choice?
- Just5

Hard pass.

Hypothetical here...Let's say your the gm of a team like the coyotes or jets, etc a team that has an internal budget that isn't close to the ceiling. Claude giroux and his contract are available to you at no cost. You can either assume the deal or pass on it under two conditions, you cannot retain salary if you want to ever trade him, and you can't buy him out. What's your choice?
- Just5

His NMC will kill this one

Yeah no sense spending time typing out a bunch of unnecessary words on a hockey forum
- YuenglingJagr

Why do you continually post then? Obviously rather than actually having a reasonable debate on the topic, you'd rather take it in this direction. That's your M.O.

Does the NHL allow for teams to do a renegotiation and extension? That could have been a possibility this year with Simmonds, if it were allowed.

Would love to see this trade happen just for the shock value and the Hextallites losing their poop

Does the NHL allow for teams to do a renegotiation and extension? That could have been a possibility this year with Simmonds, if it were allowed.
- PhillySportsGuy

No renegotiation of contracts. A player is not eligible to sign a contract extension until he is in the last year of his current contract.

His NMC will kill this one
- ob18

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- Giroux_Is_God

You can live in that world, fella

Hypothetical here...Let's say your the gm of a team like the coyotes or jets, etc a team that has an internal budget that isn't close to the ceiling. Claude giroux and his contract are available to you at no cost. You can either assume the deal or pass on it under two conditions, you cannot retain salary if you want to ever trade him, and you can't buy him out. What's your choice?
- Just5

Right now, seeing him on the decline, I pass. He'd go to that team and still be the only potential offensive threat and would be keyed on and shut down as he has these last couple seasons here.

Part of me believes he hasn't been healthy, and the influx of supplemental offense (from both the D and forwards) allow things to open up a little for him. That part of me is outweighed by the 5 yrs 8.375 mil he has left

You can live in that world, fella
- ob18

The point is he asked you to harmlessly play his game. What's the harm in playing it?

You can live in that world, fella
- ob18

No, you can't live in that world... it's hypothetical

No, you can't live in that world... it's hypothetical
- mayorofangrytown

hypothetically though, you could live in it

hypothetically though, you could live in it
- YuenglingJagr

Hypothetically though it could just be a hypothetical world

Why do you continually post then? Obviously rather than actually having a reasonable debate on the topic, you'd rather take it in this direction. That's your M.O.
- MJL

because I am interested. wondering who is on this list that is many names long. it certainly seemed like a relevant question regarding today's discussion about Simmond's next contract

Hypothetically though it could just be a hypothetical world
- Streit2ThePoint

see this is what happens when simple questions arent answered. no one knows which world is real

Hypothetically though it could just be a hypothetical world
- Streit2ThePoint

Could be a mulitverse, hypothetically

see this is what happens when simple questions arent answered. no one knows which world is real
- YuenglingJagr

- Giroux_Is_God

Love my boi, Wayne, on and off ice. But there is no Flyer more overrated. People think this team would crumble without him. As opposed to these past glory years under his true captain material leadership. As a person, he's not easily replaceable. As a player, he's no doubt very good, but he's far from irreplaceable. He's a more likable, better intangibles Schenn.

Giroux and Voracek, who some would rather discard amazingly enough, have to have disaster seasons to produce at the consistent peak numbers of Simmonds. And they're already signed long-term and have far far less trade value. Having so much money tied up in potentially declining early-mid 30s players when we have so much young talent to pay and keep when we contend is concerning. I WISH we could restructure his construct tomorrow instead of wasting 2 cheap years, but we can't.

His biggest on-ice value is basically on the PP. Is it outlandish to wonder if that newfangled righty PWF we just drafted could play a variation of the Simmonds role on PP1 within the next couple years? Because we want a way to get him on there and not squeeze him out......and Giroux, Voracek, Ghost aren't going anywhere anytime soon. While one must be careful assuming kids can replace veterans, this monster prospect pool was assembled for a reason. I think the #2 pick isn't any ordinary prospect either.

Love my boi, Wayne, on and off ice. But there is no Flyer more overrated. People think this team would crumble without him. As opposed to these past glory years under his true captain material leadership. As a person, he's not easily replaceable. As a player, he's no doubt very good, but he's far from irreplaceable. He's a more likable, better intangibles Schenn.

Giroux and Voracek, who some would rather discard amazingly enough, have to have disaster seasons to produce at the consistent peak numbers of Simmonds. And they're already signed long-term and have far far less trade value. Having so much money tied up in potentially declining early-mid 30s players when we have so much young talent to pay and keep when we contend is concerning. I WISH we could restructure his construct tomorrow instead of wasting 2 cheap years, but we can't.

His biggest on-ice value is basically on the PP. Is it outlandish to wonder if that newfangled righty PWF we just drafted could play a variation of the Simmonds role on PP1 within the next couple years? Because we want a way to get him on there and not squeeze him out......and Giroux, Voracek, Ghost aren't going anywhere anytime soon. While one must be careful assuming kids can replace veterans, this monster prospect pool was assembled for a reason. I think the #2 pick isn't any ordinary prospect either.
- Mononoke

I don't consider him over rated at all. The guy has put up between 28 and 32 goals in EVERY full season since coming to the Flyers. Only missing in the lock out year.
I love this guy but I am not ready to over pay in dollars or term to keep him beyond
this current contract. At some point one of these kids has to turn into the next Simmonds, G, and Jake. There are a lot of great prospects in the pipe line. Some break in this year, more come in next year. In the time frame of his deal, we also lose. Val, Read, Lehtera, Rafl and Manning. There are a lot of changes on the horizon and it is going to be a fun ride.