This rumor makes sense how...? Habs trade away young D for young scroring forward. Then trade in prime scoring forward for young D? The win now Habs and win soon Flyers wouldn't even think about it for a second let alone launch a rumor.
- Nuck4U

Deal makes little sense to the Flyers.
Deal makes NO sense to the Habs for the reason bolded above.

Seems like just the kind of offer Bergevin would tender......

Got that right. Not losing a future top pairing guy, and a 3rd, for a 28 year old with 2 years left on a deal.
- twpguy

Sounds like Claude

patches would look good in San Jose replacing Marleau. Could also see a fit in Carolina

Right.

Hextall says, "Yes, I am going to pass on that."

No chance this happens. No offense to the Hab's player, but this just doesn't fit the current Flyers model.
- meduser

I agree 100% about no chance happening. I just don't agree with the other guy who was saying that Pacioretty + 1st pick for Sanheim + "some draft pick" was a bad deal for the Flyers, on paper. I'm not the biggest Pacioretty fan, I just think Ek pulled a classic click bait on Habs and Flyers fans, his two biggest fanbases on HB.

I agree 100% about no chance happening. I just don't agree with the other guy who was saying that Pacioretty + 1st pick for Sanheim + "some draft pick" was a bad deal for the Flyers, on paper. I'm not the biggest Pacioretty fan, I just think Ek pulled a classic click bait on Habs and Flyers fans, his two biggest fanbases on HB.
- Not_Yan

Failed bait only 78 post 79 with this

The Schenn move proves this as complete garbage.
Hextall only cares about 3-5 years from now.
That's why draft junkies love him
Without Snider he has an unlimited window to build

I agree 100% about no chance happening. I just don't agree with the other guy who was saying that Pacioretty + 1st pick for Sanheim + "some draft pick" was a bad deal for the Flyers, on paper. I'm not the biggest Pacioretty fan, I just think Ek pulled a classic click bait on Habs and Flyers fans, his two biggest fanbases on HB.
- Not_Yan

Agreed. That is an overpayment by the habs no doubt. August Click bait indeed

Based on what everyone says it doesn't look like this makes sense from either point of view.
Is there any worry that Giroux and Voracek are getting older and maybe there's some pressure to do something while they are still in their prime?

Eklund: Hot Rumor: Travis Sanheim +Pick for Max Pacioretty? (e3) Good deal?
- Eklund

Ek you spelled Claude Giroux wrong.......


But seriously, why would either team do this?

The Schenn move proves this as complete garbage.
Hextall only cares about 3-5 years from now.
That's why draft junkies love him
Without Snider he has an unlimited window to build
- puckhead17

Unlimited by then all the flyers season ticket holders are gone.

If I were the Islanders I would jump all over this one.

Unlimited by then all the flyers season ticket holders are gone.
- Bonerfide69

Yes unlimited, and no, they will always remain.
The "stepford fans" anyway, I know I was one for 40 plus years.
Tired of this long ass, lengthy rebuild.
Oh, I'm sure 5 years from now they "may", become the Penguins, but who has the patience to tell their fans to just sit and watch poop for another 3-5 years?
This team does, and without Snider, his plan is flourishing
Go to Meltzers boards:
"move Simmonds for a first, and 2nd"
"move Schenn for 2", (well that's happened already).
That Schenn trade has everyone believing Hextall, "fleeced", Armstrong in St. Louis.
No, it's because St. Louis is not in the position to throw seasons away, you always try to win, somehow, don't you?
The fanbase is split, Meltzer's boards draft junkies, (trade everyone for a pick), or the one's like I was, who bled out every (frank)ing loss, and wished this wasn't happening.
It was either all one way, (Holmgren), or all this way, (Hextall), I would have accepted someone more in the middle.

Slow day for rumors, huh Ek?

Eklund: Hot Rumor: Travis Sanheim +Pick for Max Pacioretty? (e3) Good deal?
- Eklund

sounds made up.

Habs like players that were good yesterday. they have no interest in players that will be good tomorrow.

Based on what everyone says it doesn't look like this makes sense from either point of view.
Is there any worry that Giroux and Voracek are getting older and maybe there's some pressure to do something while they are still in their prime?
- John6644

Couple of years removed from this. Actually Flyers would move Giroux in a split second for a decent return of picks and prospects....

Eklund: Hot Rumor: Travis Sanheim +Pick for Max Pacioretty? (e3) Good deal?
- Eklund

Meh , good popcorn rumor , that being said , if I entertained this trade , it would make sense if Pacioretty was on his contract year and mtl was not making the playoffs , so a rental somewhat.

In this state , it would make no sense and I would even bet Bergevin loses his job over this.

Yes unlimited, and no, they will always remain.
The "stepford fans" anyway, I know I was one for 40 plus years.
Tired of this long ass, lengthy rebuild.
Oh, I'm sure 5 years from now they "may", become the Penguins, but who has the patience to tell their fans to just sit and watch poop for another 3-5 years?
This team does, and without Snider, his plan is flourishing
Go to Meltzers boards:
"move Simmonds for a first, and 2nd"
"move Schenn for 2", (well that's happened already).
That Schenn trade has everyone believing Hextall, "fleeced", Armstrong in St. Louis.
No, it's because St. Louis is not in the position to throw seasons away, you always try to win, somehow, don't you?
The fanbase is split, Meltzer's boards draft junkies, (trade everyone for a pick), or the one's like I was, who bled out every (frank)ing loss, and wished this wasn't happening.
It was either all one way, (Holmgren), or all this way, (Hextall), I would have accepted someone more in the middle.
- puckhead17

Win at all cost was no longer working. The cupboard was bare. Cap maxed out with crappy contracts. It's taken 3 years to she'd that garbagr Holmgren gotvus into. We still have Andrew MacDonald and Matt Read like an albatross around our neck. Yes, I hate Missing the playoffs. But there is a clear path forward. It's not like playing roulette at every TDL or during free agency. This is better.

Win at all cost was no longer working. The cupboard was bare. Cap maxed out with crappy contracts. It's taken 3 years to she'd that garbagr Holmgren gotvus into. We still have Andrew MacDonald and Matt Read like an albatross around our neck. Yes, I hate Missing the playoffs. But there is a clear path forward. It's not like playing roulette at every TDL or during free agency. This is better.
- section32

macdonald and read will be phantoms

the albatross' are filppula and giroux

your and idiot

Win at all cost was no longer working. The cupboard was bare. Cap maxed out with crappy contracts. It's taken 3 years to she'd that garbagr Holmgren gotvus into. We still have Andrew MacDonald and Matt Read like an albatross around our neck. Yes, I hate Missing the playoffs. But there is a clear path forward. It's not like playing roulette at every TDL or during free agency. This is better.
- section32

theres an "in between", to either of the above mentioned GM's methods.
They are extreme opposites & I dont agree with either method.
you can sign players, draft wisely, build, while being competitive in a different way.
Not just one way, or the other. Holmgrens way was ridiculous, but I'm not a fan of this guys way either. its like watching paint dry.
seriously how tough is his job now if absolutely no expectations are put on him whats so ever? Heres the blueprint, no hurry, take as long as you want, oh and if you can dump a few mid 20 aged 20 goal scorers for picks along the way to lengthen the process, great!

macdonald and read will be phantoms

the albatross' are filppula and giroux
- watsonnostaw

Meh, Filppula is in the last year of his deal. Maybe you can call Lehtera's deal an albatross, but even that is manageable.

Agree about Giroux, especially if his trend continues.

sounds made up.

Habs like players that were good yesterday. they have no interest in players that will be good tomorrow.
- Gunslinger

So your old pal Richard Cloutier is back writing as THX1138...maybe you can start blogging with him again...

God he sucks poop.

MB not trading pacioretty for a frigin prospect are you out of your mind lol and i see flyers fan said that they won'T do that trade ? WHAT ? 35+ goal scorer under 30 for a prospect ? and you guys said no ? we are not living on the same planet...

MB not trading pacioretty for a frigin prospect are you out of your mind lol and i see flyers fan said that they won'T do that trade ? WHAT ? 35+ goal scorer under 30 for a prospect ? and you guys said no ? we are not living on the same planet...
- Zo0by

fans with their prospects are like parents with their kids.

they could become the leader of the free world or be the next Gretzky.

Yes unlimited, and no, they will always remain.
The "stepford fans" anyway, I know I was one for 40 plus years.
Tired of this long ass, lengthy rebuild.
Oh, I'm sure 5 years from now they "may", become the Penguins, but who has the patience to tell their fans to just sit and watch poop for another 3-5 years?
This team does, and without Snider, his plan is flourishing
Go to Meltzers boards:
"move Simmonds for a first, and 2nd"
"move Schenn for 2", (well that's happened already).
That Schenn trade has everyone believing Hextall, "fleeced", Armstrong in St. Louis.
No, it's because St. Louis is not in the position to throw seasons away, you always try to win, somehow, don't you?
The fanbase is split, Meltzer's boards draft junkies, (trade everyone for a pick), or the one's like I was, who bled out every (frank)ing loss, and wished this wasn't happening.
It was either all one way, (Holmgren), or all this way, (Hextall), I would have accepted someone more in the middle.
- puckhead17

I know right...Hexy has been the GM of the Flyers for the past 5 years and they have nothing to show for the approach they are taking.

Or this will be his 3rd full season as GM and every draft resource out there has the Flyers prospect pool from first over all to 5th .

The old approach wasnt working , the new approach is going into its 3 full season so Im willing to give it time. If that makes me a Stepford then oh well.