- Stripes77

Sabres "Miller" yes you're crazy

Current Miller would have been worse

Past Miller would have been the same as Lehner last year

Each let in their own soft goals the Sabres might have won 2 more shootouts last year because that is something Miller is really good at but it's not like the Sabres could score during them either

Lehner got 1 goal in support for all of his losses.

But again the playoffs would not have happened at all.
- Stripes77

Maybe the same impact, but I'd take prime Miller every day over Lehner

anyone take the free tickets?
- homiedclown

Nope...

Nope...
- jochfr

hope you didn't pay for them

hope you didn't pay for them
- homiedclown

They were free.

Maybe the same impact, but I'd take prime Miller every day over Lehner
- chilliard77

I wouldn't

Miller and his cap at the time pro rated to what it would be now over Lehner and his cap hit

Goaltending has not been an issue since Miller was traded and it is not an issue now.

Not to mention Lehner hasn't even entered his prime

not even for 1 night?
- homiedclown

The scars would haunt me

I wouldn't

Miller and his cap at the time pro rated to what it would be now over Lehner and his cap hit

Goaltending has not been an issue since Miller was traded and it is not an issue now.

Not to mention Lehner hasn't even entered his prime
- Stripes77[/quote]


I'd say last year plus the next 3-4 years will be the best years of his career

[quote=Stripes77]I wouldn't

Miller and his cap at the time pro rated to what it would be now over Lehner and his cap hit

Goaltending has not been an issue since Miller was traded and it is not an issue now.

Not to mention Lehner hasn't even entered his prime
- jcragcrumple[/quote]


I'd say last year plus the next 3-4 years will be the best years of his career

27-33 are goalies prime years

Lehner just turned 26 a week ago

The scars would haunt me
- Mentalorgasm5

They aren't that bad...

i wonder what kind of influence komisarek would actually have


cause he's one of the last people you want working with these guys

i wonder what kind of influence komisarek would actually have


cause he's one of the last people you want working with these guys
- Sabresfan-365

Why's that?

Why's that?
- washedup20

because he's not very good at the hockey?

Edit: his style of play/type of d-man is gone now, im not sure what he really has to offer the organization.

because he's not very good at the hockey?

Edit: his style of play/type of d-man is gone now, im not sure what he really has to offer the organization.
- Sabresfan-365

I would like to think Housley and JBotts would know a little more about a person's worth to a team than most of the readers on here.

I wouldn't

Miller and his cap at the time pro rated to what it would be now over Lehner and his cap hit

Goaltending has not been an issue since Miller was traded and it is not an issue now.

Not to mention Lehner hasn't even entered his prime
- Stripes77

The Miller hate is strong in this one

The Miller hate is strong in this one
- GERBE!!!75PTS

lehner in 2016-17 was much better than miller


you're beating a dead horse

lehner 10th in save % .920
miller 23rd .914

lehner 2.68 gaa
miller 2.80

lehner 23 wins
miller 18


lehner had 5 more starts

typical miller season, ranked somewhere in the 20's for stats and a few buffalo fans over-hype him
- homiedclown

Lol here we go lol ...


One goaltender played in the defense first system and sucked

The other was the MVP most nights that's a hard one

The Miller hate is strong in this one
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I wouldn't say that there is a lot of hate for Miller exactly, but more of a hate for all the love Miller gets.

The Miller hate is strong in this one
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Millers $6 million cap hit against a cap of $60 million

or Lehners $4 million against a cap of $75 million


I know thinking things out without using emotions is not your strong suit but if you actually could do that you would understand what I am saying

Ryan Miller is the reason we weren't a lot worse for a lot longer. He was the only player keeping us in games from 2008-2011 on most nights
- chilliard77

Right .. we had to get rid of him to tank right lol

I would like to think Housley and JBotts would know a little more about a person's worth to a team than most of the readers on here.
- adambuffalo

c'mon thats such a weak argument


The guy in charge must know more than me therefore i shouldnt question anything he does and all of it is correct


As for the readers outside who knows (well cept for maybe gerbe
)

because he's not very good at the hockey?

Edit: his style of play/type of d-man is gone now, im not sure what he really has to offer the organization.
- Sabresfan-365

Gretzky was a terrible coach
Quenneville wasn't the best of players but is a great coach

The Miller hate is strong in this one
- GERBE!!!75PTS

november 5th 2011

Right .. we had to get rid of him to tank right lol
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Psst

The goalies that replaced him had better stats than Miller

Millers $6 million cap hit against a cap of $60 million

or Lehners $4 million against a cap of $75 million


I know thinking things out without using emotions is not your strong suit but if you actually could do that you would understand what I am saying
- Stripes77

6m for a top goaltender is normal now just saying