They have trade chips and their GM is Lou Lamoriello. Don't worry about the defense.
- willschulme

Yeah because he has done so much for the defense past couple years. except for Zatisev he has done nothing. They are terrible on defense.

We can make room;

Bozak = gone
JvR = gone
Komarov = gone


Anything not nailed down, like Matthews, Marner, Kadri, Rielly, Zaitsev, Andersen, Nylander, Liljegren,

Everything else gone;
- PatC80

Hyman (3m), Matthews (10m), Nylander (7m)
Leivo (3m), Tavares (10m), Marner (7m)
Koma (3m), Kadri (4.2m), Brown (3.8m)
Rychel (2m), Goat (1m), Sosh (2m)

Something like that?

$56M in all forwards, and those are long term numbers...say everyone on 8yr deals.

As the CAP goes up over the term that could be a powerful line up for a long time....especially the last 4 years when the CAP is over $80m.

We have Reilly, Zaits, Gards (new deal could be a Rielly deal) and Andersen tied up on decent deals. Liljegren will be entry level and we could probably save money on some of the wingers with rookies on ELCs.

It's over the CAP now and then with bonus money...definitely over....but the Leafs have a CAP Genius Bar in-house so if I can bang this out in 2 minutes on HB, I'm sure they could make it all work.

*Disclaimer, this was just an exercise in CAP. I am not saying JT is coming to Toronto but that they could make it work money wise.

Im not saying Tavares is coming to Tronto at all

But I think it's obvious that he would strongly consider Toronto if he were to leave NY. and the interest would be mutual obviously.

The kids haven't even signed yet...lets see what they get signed to. Maybe they take discounts. Maybe they don't.

Maybe they sign Nylander and Marner to 8 year deals early for around 6 million. They are all getting 950k right now. And until they sign no fans can predict who they can or can't afford.
- Santo_44

Please don't rationalize this. It's not going to happen.

Pitsburg had superstar winger in kessel and superstar dman in letang. They also had to number one goalies. Out of no where dman in schutlz who put up crazy points and rookies breaking records. You need more then two superstar centers. and they can not afford all of them and dman.
- hanleyaj

Sure they can

Chicago did it, the Penang did it

This notion that the Leafs can't afford players is laughable. I guess this is what fans resort to when they can't make fun of lack of talent anymore.

top 10 in wins over last three years, won a round last year, missed playoffs by a point this year and were top 5 in wins from after replacing the coach. Isles are actually a good team. Toronto hasnt done anything and beat out isles by one point in to get to playoffs
- 151509

sorry to say but what you wrote here describes a mediocre hockey team.

Yeah because he has done so much for the defense past couple years. except for Zatisev he has done nothing. They are terrible on defense.
- hanleyaj

Buffalo doesn't get to laugh at any other team.

Yeah because he has done so much for the defense past couple years. except for Zatisev he has done nothing. They are terrible on defense.
- hanleyaj

They also haven't yet traded JVR or any spare prospects. As smart as you think you are, you aren't as smart as the people running the Leafs.

Hyman (3m), Matthews (10m), Nylander (7m)
Leivo (3m), Tavares (10m), Marner (7m)
Koma (3m), Kadri (4.2m), Brown (3.8m)
Rychel (2m), Goat (1m), Sosh (2m)

Something like that?

$56M in all forwards, and those are long term numbers...say everyone on 8yr deals.

As the CAP goes up over the term that could be a powerful line up for a long time....especially the last 4 years when the CAP is over $80m.

We have Reilly, Zaits, Gards (new deal could be a Rielly deal) and Andersen tied up on decent deals. Liljegren will be entry level and we could probably save money on some of the wingers with rookies on ELCs.

It's over the CAP now and then with bonus money...definitely over....but the Leafs have a CAP Genius Bar in-house so if I can bang this out in 2 minutes on HB, I'm sure they could make it all work.
- underhill14

Please stop. Everyone. This is what gives Leafs fans bad names. Don't give into these types of July/August content filling blogs. I beg you.

no

also no
- BINGO!

Double No means yes so you are saying theres a chance

You have Barzal, Beavillier, Ho Sang, Pullock. I'm familiar. They're great for sure, but Toronto is completely stacked in the prospect pool. Bracco, Kapanen, Liljegren among others even on top of the big three.

I completely disagree with what you said about the rookies. Matthews, Marner and Nylander are that good, if not even better. Are you not also concerned about Lee having a career year?
- willschulme

Lee is just getting started. if he stays on JT's line this yr i see 40 goals

Wrong! he know John Tavares' friends

Please don't rationalize this. It's not going to happen.
- Deeps27

That's a pretty obnoxious statement to make.

He can. He could sign with the Habs. He could sign with the Flames.

All great options that are better than the NYI.

All possible. Saying that it will not happen is a pretty idiotic comment. You really have no idea and are just spitting poop out of your mouth

Yeah because he has done so much for the defense past couple years. except for Zatisev he has done nothing. They are terrible on defense.
- hanleyaj

Ive been a Devils fan since I was 9 yrs old, and what I learned was never doubt Lou. Hence, In Lou We Trust. You don't rebuild a franchise overnight, he has the O in place, now Im sure he'll work on the D.

sorry to say but what you wrote here describes a mediocre hockey team.
- DoubleDown

Above average and better than what leafs have done is the point. Crazy how everyone thinks toronto is anything more than a bubble team.

Please stop. Everyone. This is what gives Leafs fans bad names. Don't give into these types of July/August content filling blogs. I beg you.

- Deeps27

honestly, i don't see it as a good fit. i don't think the Leafs need Tavares really. Matthews-Kadri-Bozak is a great lineup at C. i think they're better off trying to find that impact player for the D.

Double No means yes so you are saying theres a chance
- DDM-Coga

TAVAROV

Lee is just getting started. if he stays on JT's line this yr i see 40 goals
- nyislsbossy

So Lee is just getting started but Matthews, Marner and Nylander aren't as good as they were playing? Got it.

Above average and better than what leafs have done is the point. Crazy how everyone thinks toronto is anything more than a bubble team.
- 151509

well they could well be a bubble team again this year but i think it's pretty obvious which direction they're headed...

Please stop. Everyone. This is what gives Leafs fans bad names. Don't give into these types of July/August content filling blogs. I beg you.

- Deeps27

Added a disclaimer Deeps. Was just thinking through the CAP for the people who keep saying we have Cap issues....wanted to see if it would even fit.

In no way am I saying JT is coming to TO.

Please stop. Everyone. This is what gives Leafs fans bad names. Don't give into these types of July/August content filling blogs. I beg you.

- Deeps27

Why is that?

Every other fan does it. Talking about possible signings and trades.

Fans do it all the time....people just don't like it when Leafs fans do it. Which you shouldn't give a poop about

That's a pretty obnoxious statement to make.

He can. He could sign with the Habs. He could sign with the Flames.

All great options that are better than the NYI.

All possible. Saying that it will not happen is a pretty idiotic comment. You really have no idea and are just spitting poop out of your mouth
- Santo_44

Like making up ridiculous salary cap projections to try to fit a guy that won't fit into your salary structure long term all because he's from Toronto? Yeah, who enjoys living and working in NYC? It's not happening, so try not to make the rest of us Leafs fans look like delusional clowns in the interim.

Why do the Leafs need Tavares? Now, I don't mean Tavares isn't a great player. In fact I think he's maybe one of the most overlooked players in the league and is absolutely elite, but still, why do the Leafs need him?

I'd imagine that once they feel Nylander or Marner's defensive game is where it should be, one of them will become a real option for them at Center, plus you have Kapanen to take over their spot on the wing.

Yes, Tavares, Matthews and Kardri would be an incredible 3-headed monster, so would Matthews, Kadri and either Nylander or Marner. Plus, it will cost you less and allow you to build more depth around the team.

Develop what you guys have, strengthen your defense and you will have multiple cups in your future.

That's a pretty obnoxious statement to make.

He can. He could sign with the Habs. He could sign with the Flames.

All great options that are better than the NYI.

All possible. Saying that it will not happen is a pretty idiotic comment. You really have no idea and are just spitting poop out of your mouth
- Santo_44

signing with the Habs means Montreal would have to make him an offer. and with Tavares being an impact center, Marc Bergevin will have absolutely no interest in him. unless you're a winger, or a marginal defenceman, you can (frank) right off as far as Montreal's concerned.

well they could well be a bubble team again this year but i think it's pretty obvious which direction they're headed...
- DoubleDown

You're saying everything I'm trying to say

honestly, i don't see it as a good fit. i don't think the Leafs need Tavares really. Matthews-Kadri-Bozak is a great lineup at C. i think they're better off trying to find that impact player for the D.
- DoubleDown

Might not be but Matthews, JT, Kadri is FAR better than Matthews, Kadri, Bozak.

JT with Marner would be ridiculous.