The-O-G
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Watch some of the Strome highlight videos on YouTube. This kid has speed,super slick hands,and a shot comparable to that of Eberle. The biggest difference being,Strome is capable of letting fly a cannon of a one timer.
I feel that Ryan and Dylan play a similar game,which could accelerate the getting to know you process. If Ryan and Connor are able to feed off each other,the way Connor did playing with Dylan,then the Oilers will be money,and there is no ceiling to the amount of points they could produce together.
Strome could find his way onto the power play,in Letestu's spot,if he's able to connect on the one timers from McDavid. This plus his natural skill and toolbox,could allow him to reach 60pts IMO. I would love to see a line of Strome-McDavid-Draisaitl - 2centz
Holy kool-aid batman. |
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Watch some of the Strome highlight videos on YouTube. This kid has speed,super slick hands,and a shot comparable to that of Eberle. The biggest difference being,Strome is capable of letting fly a cannon of a one timer.
I feel that Ryan and Dylan play a similar game,which could accelerate the getting to know you process. If Ryan and Connor are able to feed off each other,the way Connor did playing with Dylan,then the Oilers will be money,and there is no ceiling to the amount of points they could produce together.
Strome could find his way onto the power play,in Letestu's spot,if he's able to connect on the one timers from McDavid. This plus his natural skill and toolbox,could allow him to reach 60pts IMO. I would love to see a line of Strome-McDavid-Draisaitl - 2centz
I've seen this posted a lot more than it should. Yes, he actually does score on one-timers once in a while, but it's not some lethal weapon. He's probably around Letestu's level as far as one-timer success rates go. Nothing wrong with that; I just think you're over stating his effectiveness by calling it a "cannon". |
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EdmHockeyMan
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Location: Lumbridge, AB Joined: 06.24.2013
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It wouldn't be. He played on a team with worse defense, substantially weaker goaltending and played a fair deal of time away from top opposition. Too many variables as a raw stat so you'd be better off looking at GA/60 relative to his teammates alongside Fenwick Against/60 relative to his teammates combined with goal differentials after factoring his role (who he played with and against).
Either way, he spent more of his time as a winger than not so we should stop worrying about his defensive game. Most wingers simply aren't good at the finer points. We don't need Marian Hossa. - MaximumBone
May I add in that looking at zone entries/exits, zone entry attempts against & control, more specifically, defensive zone exit with control, relative to teammates with regards to competition could also be a great stat to dig into when looking at how Strome affects the team's defensive stance.
To me, Strome has the tools and technicality to be a good top 6 or a great top 9 Two Way forward in the long run. Still wary of the trade though. This could be a classic case of replacing offense with defense.
Here is a fantastic article about the underlying stats of ZEA, controlled zone exits, and the gist of its "recent" emergence. The article emphasizes the stat's usage on defencemen, but it can also be implied upon forwards as well.
https://originalsixanalyt...ag/controlled-zone-exits/ |
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2centz
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: AB Joined: 08.04.2015
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I've seen this posted a lot more than it should. Yes, he actually does score on one-timers once in a while, but it's not some lethal weapon. He's probably around Letestu's level as far as one-timer success rates go. Nothing wrong with that; I just think you're over stating his effectiveness by calling it a "cannon". - MaximumBone
Just watch his past work in regards to this cannon you're in doubt of. The proof is in the pudding. It's in the back of the net before the goalie has a chance to even react,more often than not... Yes,even in the NHL. I will gladly accept the abuse,if I'm out to lunch,but I've seen enough,and the connection between he and Connor,have led me to believe that this is something really special in the making. If not,I'll take the lashings from you ladies and gents. PS. Max,I'd love to see you step in front of one of these non cannon-like one timers |
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Strome is definitely not a better player than Eberle and Russel is statu quo. I would have liked to see a Hamonic and would have held out on that return for Eberle. - Reveen.
I'm not a huge fan of Hamonic, but last years performance may had jaded me on him. |
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not "happy" about either, but I recognize the reasoning behind each choice that Chiarelli made.
The way I see it, Chiarelli had three options to cover for the D issue: 1.) resign a familiar player in Russell at a slight overpayment (unfortunately in both dollars and term) in lieu of Sekera's injury, 2.) trade a similar package as what was paid to the Isles in exchange for Hamonic (Eberle CLEARLY wasn't getting it done) or 3.) sign a different and likely lesser Dman (Stone, for example) for a similar degree of overpayment. As we don't know if #3 was an option, I view it as would I rather have Russell @ 4mil for 4 years, the familiarity in D pairings, a 1st and two 2nds or Hamonic @ 3.8 for 3 years?
On Strome, I'll wait and see what he can do under McLellan before really coming to any firm conclusion. Chiarelli would have a better idea of the type of skills a player would need to thrive under McLellan than I would. It seems like they're both saving cap as well as betting on being able to better utilize Strome's abilities. Seems like a reasonable bet to me after Strome's improved play under Weight. - MaximumBone
This analysis does make me feel somewhat better. Danke.
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Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: BC Joined: 09.05.2016
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I'm not a huge fan of Hamonic, but last years performance may had jaded me on him. - Wildschwein
I'm hoping he trends downward with Calgary like Smid did. |
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ghostofRC
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Boyle, AB Joined: 09.21.2014
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Hmmm...
Schwein comes back. And same time EdmHockeyFag comes back...
Coincidence??? |
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The ranks of the dark side are growing each day!
You'll soon join as well - ghostofRC
Afraid not good sir. I'm far too much of an optimist to join the dark side, but I can see where you're coming from. |
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ghostofRC
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Boyle, AB Joined: 09.21.2014
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I'm hoping he trends downward with Calgary like Smid did. - Reveen.
Smid didn't trend downward with Calgary...he just always sucked... |
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I'm hoping he trends downward with Calgary like Smid did. - Reveen.
As do I. |
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Hmmm...
Schwein comes back. And same time EdmHockeyFag comes back...
Coincidence??? - ghostofRC
The Schwein has no alts. Frankly I'm too lazy to bother. |
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2centz
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: AB Joined: 08.04.2015
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Also,Ryan Strome has registered in the Frank Selke trophy voting a couple years ago. There's better chances of me showing up in Selke voting,than Jordan Eberle does... |
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ghostofRC
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Boyle, AB Joined: 09.21.2014
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Holy kool-aid batman. - The-O-G
No doubt. |
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Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: BC Joined: 09.05.2016
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Smid didn't trend downward with Calgary...he just always sucked... - ghostofRC
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Afternoon you glorious bastard you. You think Nico's gonna make the big club this year? - Wildschwein
Yes. |
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Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: BC Joined: 09.05.2016
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Yes. - smellmyfinger
Will Nico bring Hall up to Larssons level ? |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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I've seen this posted a lot more than it should. Yes, he actually does score on one-timers once in a while, but it's not some lethal weapon. He's probably around Letestu's level as far as one-timer success rates go. Nothing wrong with that; I just think you're over stating his effectiveness by calling it a "cannon". - MaximumBone
Lethal one timers in the entire NHL
Stamkos, OV, Weber, Laine (getting there), Old Iginla and maybe Malkin.
Non-lethal one timers in the entire NHL
Everybody else including Strome.
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Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: BC Joined: 09.05.2016
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Lethal one timers in the entire NHL
Stamkos, OV, Weber, Laine (getting there), Old Iginla and maybe Malkin.
Non-lethal one timers in the entire NHL
Everybody else including Strome. - AdamFrench
Nobody tops Brett Hull |
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Just watch his past work in regards to this cannon you're in doubt of. The proof is in the pudding. It's in the back of the net before the goalie has a chance to even react,more often than not... Yes,even in the NHL. I will gladly accept the abuse,if I'm out to lunch,but I've seen enough,and the connection between he and Connor,have led me to believe that this is something really special in the making. If not,I'll take the lashings from you ladies and gents. PS. Max,I'd love to see you step in front of one of these non cannon-like one timers - 2centz
You say that like I haven't been. In the week following the trade, I went back and watched all the highlight videos I could find and 10 Islanders games that he played in; 4 from before the coaching change and 6 from after. Before you say anything, yes I had a lot of free time as I was temporarily unemployed at the time
He's found the most success (going back to his rookie season) in and around the slot area. His high slot one-timer sees some usage and so to does he score a fair deal from the doorstep. If his skillset can translate to more consistent success in the Letestu spot, then I think he could definitely reach 45-55 points.
For clarity, I didn't intend any form of abuse or "lashings" if that's how you took it. I also mean nothing negative by saying he's comparable to Letestu as far as one-timers go. He scored 11 PP goals last year playing the role he did and I think Strome is fully capable of not only matching those numbers, but even exceeding them if he can cater his play style and mindset to the guys feeding him the puck. |
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Will Nico bring Hall up to Larssons level ? - Reveen.
There is only one on Larssons level. If anything Hall will drag Nico down to Faynes level. |
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Nobody tops Brett Hull - Reveen.
Kovalchuk. But (frank) him though. |
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There is only one on Larssons level. If anything Hall will drag Nico down to Faynes level. - smellmyfinger
Elite AHLers aren't so bad |
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Elite AHLers aren't so bad - MaximumBone
The Devils don't even have that on defense. We have Ben Lovejoy and John Moore. |
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