THIS!!!! Not only has he made Klefbom a top pairing dman, but he will ensure McDavid stays at the top of his game.
- leonkennedy

Singlehandedly made Draisaitl the most powerful German since......

Singlehandedly made Draisaitl the most powerful German since......
- smellmyfinger

Frederick II?

I watched it. Schneider with Larsson the most elite of elite gingers, without he was a mere soulless mortal.
- smellmyfinger

Essentially the trade was Hall for Larsson and Schneider's mojo. You guys should've demanded a 1st as well.

I watched it. Schneider with Larsson the most elite of elite gingers, without he was a mere soulless mortal.
- smellmyfinger

It's true. My people can read each other's thoughts.

Singlehandedly made Draisaitl the most powerful German since......
- smellmyfinger

Since...since... since the Kaiser . Somebody ought to put him on a roll.

Since...since... since the Kaiser . Somebody ought to put him on a roll.
- leonkennedy

Draisaitl should wear this during warm ups next year.

Ya know who's a goof? That SHen Peng, knob who writes for Vegas. (frank) him.

Draisaitl should wear this during warm ups next year.


- smellmyfinger

That poopty WW1 Cavalry Helmet? (frank) that. GO for simple, less arty and more bad ass.

That poopty WW1 Cavalry Helmet? (frank) that. GO for simple, less arty and more bad ass.


- Larsson_fan

I concur. Would he have room under the jersey for the dagger, and if so how would he wear it?

Ya know who's a goof? That SHen Peng, knob who writes for Vegas. (frank) him.
- Larsson_fan

Does he actually even write anything or just post links to his own twitter posts, and other posts he reads on twitter?

Draisaitl should wear this during warm ups next year.


- smellmyfinger

Imagine what that could have done to Taylor Hall in warmups, as opposed to a skate blade.

That poopty WW1 Cavalry Helmet? (frank) that. GO for simple, less arty and more bad ass.


- Larsson_fan

Meh, Kaiser Draisaitl has a better ring to it than Reichsinspekteur Leon.

Let me get this straight.... we aren't suppose to be excited about

- Going from 70 to 103 points in the standings.
- Having a goal differential of +35.
- Making the playoffs for the first time in a decade and then knocking off the Sharks and taking the Ducks to 7 games in round two.
- McDavid winning the Heart, Art Ross and Ted Lindsay.
- Draisaitl emerging as a dominant elite forward.

Getting excited about that is drinking the Kool-Aid or in Iggy's words chugging Chia's jizz ?

We've had to listen to that blow hard go on all year on how Chiarelli is a moron and how Mac-T built this team. Some of us looked at last year as being a complete success despite some questionable moves from Chiarelli.
- Reveen.

Not only could MacT not win with 3 1st overalls, but he made no trades with them to change the makeup of the team either. Chia did.

Not only could MacT not win with 3 1st overalls, but he made no trades with them to change the makeup of the team either. Chia did.
- Oildrum

Chia is a bad GM that makes bad trades. He is only doing what he has been doing with the Oilers because they won McDavid. Mac-Tarded would be doing just as good, or better had he still been GM when the Oilers got McDavid because I SAID SO!!!. Chia just ruins teams and makes bad trades because I SAID SO!!!

Chia has (frank)ed the Oilers because he tried to make them a better team, and thus players are gonna get paid for it, because the right way to run a team is to stunt your star players development just long enough, and just right so that they don't have to get paid at an early age, and grow at a slow enough rate so that your team only improves a little bit, over a long period of time, and that is when a GM should pounce and sign said players to cheaper contracts and then push for championships because I SAID SO!!!

Being an NHL GM is easy because of hindsight.

Not only could MacT not win with 3 1st overalls, but he made no trades with them to change the makeup of the team either. Chia did.
- Oildrum

totally unfair argument. No one could've won with those 3 as his core. Only ones a bonafide star. And he's a winger. Another's just a quality two way top 6 center thus far. At best. And the other is barely NHL quality. Pc had Connor. Mact didn't

As far as the trades, pc also had the luxury of seeing more development from these kids and what they'd ultimately become before shipping them off in what was probably lowballs from as far as we know during macts era.
And of course the trump card of being able to lose value in a deal because of having Connor. Can you imagine how fuked wedve been with no connor and Leon after dealing for Larsson if say that had happened 2 years earlier ?!! Nuge as our 1c with no viable option at 2. No hall to pick up offensive slack, a less developed klefbom, and no talbot.
Jesus. Last place almost undoubtedly.

Not slagging pc though. I think he's lost some serious value, but understands what kind of team can be successful in the NHL. He's just too impetuous and ignores value to obtain that model..
All I'm sayin is It's just not a fair argument to compare different eras of circumstances. Way too many variables. AND one guy gets Connor , the other doesnt

Chia is a bad GM that makes bad trades. He is only doing what he has been doing with the Oilers because they won McDavid. Mac-Tarded would be doing just as good, or better had he still been GM when the Oilers got McDavid because I SAID SO!!!. Chia just ruins teams and makes bad trades because I SAID SO!!!

Chia has (frank)ed the Oilers because he tried to make them a better team, and thus players are gonna get paid for it, because the right way to run a team is to stunt your star players development just long enough, and just right so that they don't have to get paid at an early age, and grow at a slow enough rate so that your team only improves a little bit, over a long period of time, and that is when a GM should pounce and sign said players to cheaper contracts and then push for championships because I SAID SO!!!

Being an NHL GM is easy because of hindsight.
- leonkennedy

Chia is a bad GM that makes bad trades. He is only doing what he has been doing with the Oilers because they won McDavid. Mac-Tarded would be doing just as good, or better had he still been GM when the Oilers got McDavid because I SAID SO!!!. Chia just ruins teams and makes bad trades because I SAID SO!!!

Chia has (frank)ed the Oilers because he tried to make them a better team, and thus players are gonna get paid for it, because the right way to run a team is to stunt your star players development just long enough, and just right so that they don't have to get paid at an early age, and grow at a slow enough rate so that your team only improves a little bit, over a long period of time, and that is when a GM should pounce and sign said players to cheaper contracts and then push for championships because I SAID SO!!!

Being an NHL GM is easy because of hindsight.
- leonkennedy

totally unfair argument. No one could've won with those 3 as his core. Only ones a bonafide star. And he's a winger. Another's just a quality two way top 6 center thus far. At best. And the other is barely NHL quality. Pc had Connor. Mact didn't

As far as the trades, pc also had the luxury of seeing more development from these kids and what they'd ultimately become before shipping them off in what was probably lowballs from as far as we know during macts era.
And of course the trump card of being able to lose value in a deal because of having Connor. Can you imagine how fuked wedve been with no connor and Leon after dealing for Larsson if say that had happened 2 years earlier ?!! Nuge as our 1c with no viable option at 2. No hall to pick up offensive slack, a less developed klefbom, and no talbot.
Jesus. Last place almost undoubtedly.

Not slagging pc though. I think he's lost some serious value, but understands what kind of team can be successful in the NHL. He's just too impetuous and ignores value to obtain that model..
All I'm sayin is It's just not a fair argument to compare different eras of circumstances. Way too many variables. AND one guy gets Connor , the other doesnt
- HB77

Are you saying no matter who was GM during MacT's tenure that the right move (or only move possible) was to sit on hands and make no big trades because the only offers that came in would be low ballers or hurt the team makeup too much? Or do you think it played out that way because he was a rookie GM getting taken advantage of?

I don't think the team could have been any worse than they were during that time. Trading wingers for defense could have really helped the team at that time, including eberle.

If they still finished low then draft offense.

Are you saying no matter who was GM during MacT's tenure that the right move (or only move possible) was to sit on hands and make no big trades because the only offers that came in would be low ballers or hurt the team makeup too much? Or do you think it played out that way because he was a rookie GM getting taken advantage of?

I don't think the team could have been any worse than they were during that time. Trading wingers for defense could have really helped the team at that time, including eberle.

If they still finished low then draft offense.
- Oildrum

Mac-T will always be credited with doing or not doing things, that ultimately ended up with the Oilers finishing 27th place in 2015, which is what was necessary to get McJesus....and just ending the misery that was the Oilers, and their management/coaching up until that point.

Mac-T will always be credited with doing or not doing things, that ultimately ended up with the Oilers finishing 27th place in 2015, which is what was necessary to get McJesus....and just ending the misery that was the Oilers, and their management/coaching up until that point.
- leonkennedy

So you're saying: MacT's ineptitude=McDavid.

I can live with that.

So you're saying: MacT's ineptitude=McDavid.

I can live with that.
- Oildrum

More or less. Actually the only decision I really fault Mac-T for is hiring Eakins. Some of the mouth breathers will defend and excuse him because "that is what newly hired GM's typically do", but it was a poor choice.......that netted the team McDavid.

Are you saying no matter who was GM during MacT's tenure that the right move (or only move possible) was to sit on hands and make no big trades because the only offers that came in would be low ballers or hurt the team makeup too much? Or do you think it played out that way because he was a rookie GM getting taken advantage of?

I don't think the team could have been any worse than they were during that time. Trading wingers for defense could have really helped the team at that time, including eberle.

If they still finished low then draft offense.
- Oildrum

I thought I explained it quite Clearly. Mact didn't have the luxury of making that trade. Hall for Larsson without mcdavid (and Leon) in the fold? Total disaster. It's literally Apples and oranges. One guy had the luxury of losing on pure value, the other guy didn't. I mean sure it's all personal opinion but I don't fault mact for not pulling the trigger on a deal like that anymore than I think it makes pc a genius for being able to do so. I mean let's not forget that pc also had an awful finish with all of those players mact had And Connor for half a season

However, I will say that making that deal turned out better than I expected it to thus far. But in my opinion, that's far more due to having Connor as our go to after losing hall than pc as some sort of visionary. Ballsy move nonetheless

More or less. Actually the only decision I really fault Mac-T for is hiring Eakins. Some of the mouth breathers will defend and excuse him because "that is what newly hired GM's typically do", but it was a poor choice.......that netted the team McDavid.
- leonkennedy

Awful choice. BUT it is literally the name of the game. Bring in your guy to fill your vision. ITs not even what typically happens. It's pretty much the the rule. I don't see how that makes someone stupid for pointing out that fact

I really don't think any gm could've pulled this team out of that tailspin much quicker due to a few things. The guys who were there (nuge/yaks) during our years of picking first instead of pretty much every year bookending those drafts. . The lack of depth on defence when we started our rebuild. And edm being so low on the totem pole as a free agent destination.
Which of course has also changed now due to Connor

It's pretty much all on Connor. Everything has changed for the better because of him. Including the gms job. BUt I won't dismiss some of the prudent additions pc has made to surround his golden ticket

So you're saying: MacT's ineptitude=McDavid.

I can live with that.
- Oildrum

Did chiarellis ineptitude get us puljujarvi ?

I thought I explained it quite Clearly. Mact didn't have the luxury of making that trade. Hall for Larsson without mcdavid (and Leon) in the fold? Total disaster. It's literally Apples and oranges. One guy had the luxury of losing on pure value, the other guy didn't. I mean sure it's all personal opinion but I don't fault mact for not pulling the trigger on a deal like that anymore than I think it makes pc a genius for being able to do so. I mean let's not forget that pc also had an awful finish with all of those players mact had And Connor for half a season

However, I will say that making that deal turned out better than I expected it to thus far. But in my opinion, that's far more due to having Connor as our go to after losing hall than pc as some sort of visionary
- HB77

First of all, you didn't answer my question. Secondly, no matter how you want to word it you are pretty much saying that Mact had no recourse but to do exactly what he did and no matter what Chia achieved he gets no credit because he got McDavid.

Might as well call you Iggy.