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Forums :: Blog World :: Jan Levine: Rumors: Staal buyout/ Holden plus a pick to Toronto for Tyler Bozak
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tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 26 @ 2:02 PM ET
you are talking about next summer
- jimbro83

even then he has the NMC too.
discojaws
New York Rangers
Location: I pick the Islanders to win the Division, President's Trophy and play in the Final -JamesTanner, NY
Joined: 04.18.2012

Jul 26 @ 2:02 PM ET
me too, dudes who wear flip flips with jeans may as well be Al Qaeda to me
- jimbro83


Socks & Sandles are about as American as smoking crack in Detroit on a Sunday afternoon.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 26 @ 2:03 PM ET
If you have feet that are veiny, deformed and nails that are the color of mustard and can grab fish out of a stream, you better damn well wear (frank)ing sneakers.
- mdw7413

You're bigger heathen than me if you believe that.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 26 @ 2:03 PM ET
you are talking about next summer
- jimbro83

Yes
TrueBlueRanger
Joined: 07.14.2010

Jul 26 @ 2:03 PM ET
Why would a team give up something of value knowing the Rangers may buy him out? In addition, Tampa Bay signed him for two years, not three, though they are paying him 150K more they would have been on the hook for if NY had eaten half the cap hit to move him. There was no way Stevie Y was trading anything of value for him.

For Staal, it's four more years at $5.7 mil. Even if NY ate half of it, do you want to pay Staal $2.85 mil for each of the next four seasons? In addition, he has an NMC, so Staal would have to approve any trade.

- airjan23



No but it beats having dead cap space for 8 years! How quickly do you think the fans in NY will chase him out. It is just going to get uncomfortable for him, when he becomes Redden.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 26 @ 2:04 PM ET
even then he has the NMC too.
- tomburton99

http://fulltiltnyr.com/up...-limited-no-trade-clause/
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 26 @ 2:04 PM ET
No but it beats having dead cap space for 8 years! How quickly do you think the fans in NY will chase him out. It is just going to get uncomfortable for him, when he becomes Redden.
- TrueBlueRanger

When the next lockout happens, Rangers just amnesty Staal's buyout. Problem solved.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 26 @ 2:05 PM ET
http://fulltiltnyr.com/update-marc-staal-deal-done-principle-includes-limited-no-trade-clause/
- nyrangers9479

If you have the NMC then Rangers have to ask before trading him.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 26 @ 2:05 PM ET
If you have the NMC then Rangers have to ask before trading him.
- tomburton99

Even though his NMC only pertains to waivers?
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

Jul 26 @ 2:07 PM ET
I don't see Uncle Lou trading with the Rangers ever. I doubt his hatred for the Rangers organization has subsided since he left NJ
TrueBlueRanger
Joined: 07.14.2010

Jul 26 @ 2:08 PM ET
If you have the NMC then Rangers have to ask before trading him.
- tomburton99


Yes, you have a conversation with him and show him what his future is in NY.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 26 @ 2:09 PM ET
Yes, you have a conversation with him and show him what his future is in NY.
- TrueBlueRanger


and he'll say "buy me out"
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 26 @ 2:10 PM ET
Even though his NMC only pertains to waivers?
- nyrangers9479


He submits a list of 15 teams. Staal would still have to approve the trade to 1 of those teams. Its that simple.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 26 @ 2:11 PM ET
and he'll say "buy me out"
- jimbro83

So I can get paid twice. Almost everybody on earth would take 2 pay checks while only working one job.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 26 @ 2:12 PM ET
So I can get paid twice. Almost everybody on earth would take 2 pay checks while only working one job.
- tomburton99


and choose his next team himself, not let the Rangers choose
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Jul 26 @ 2:13 PM ET
Can't use LTIR until the season starts so Leafs have to be under FOR the start of the season.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 26 @ 2:14 PM ET
Can't use LTIR until the season starts so Leafs have to be under FOR the start of the season.
- Danformo


that's actually not true, it's been reported that LTIR is capable of being used in the summer

the only real problem the Leafs have is that once Connor Brown is signed they have 50 contracts and that's the max
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 26 @ 2:14 PM ET
that's actually not true, it's been reported that LTIR is capable of being used in the summer

the only real problem the Leafs have is that once Connor Brown is signed they have 50 contracts and that's the max

- jimbro83

See article link below:
https://www.pensionplanpu...l-off-season-connor-brown
TrueBlueRanger
Joined: 07.14.2010

Jul 26 @ 2:15 PM ET
and he'll say "buy me out"
- jimbro83


He would not want to sit in the press box for 4 years. Hockey players are proud guys and careers are short. He would prefer to have ice time - ask any player.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 26 @ 2:18 PM ET
He would not want to sit in the press box for 4 years. Hockey players are proud guys and careers are short. He would prefer to have ice time - ask any player.
- TrueBlueRanger


let me ask you, if Marc Staal is sitting up in the press box for an extended period of time, considering he has 4 more years on his deal, even at half the cap hit, who the hell would want that?

right now there are guys like Franson and Markov available for free
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Jul 26 @ 2:18 PM ET
See article link below:
https://www.pensionplanpu...l-off-season-connor-brown

- airjan23


Article basically states it depends which team needs the LTIR...

Jk but it does seem like the NHL is making it up on the go
GuidoDangles
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: oakville, ON
Joined: 12.01.2011

Jul 26 @ 2:18 PM ET
Rangers would like Bozak. Leafs could potentially get rid of bozak. But for Nick Holden? Absolutely franking not. We have like 5 NHL defenseman with Left hand shots and roughly 3-4 close to NHL ready prospects with a Left hand shot. His contract is do-able but if they trade bozak its for a 2nd round pick.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 26 @ 2:19 PM ET
Rangers would like Bozak. Leafs could potentially get rid of bozak. But for Nick Holden? Absolutely franking not. We have like 5 NHL defenseman with Left hand shots and roughly 3-4 close to NHL ready prospects with a Left hand shot. His contract is do-able but if they trade bozak its for a 2nd round pick.
- GuidoDangles


The Rangers don't have the cap space to add Bozak, it's such a moot point that seemingly never ends
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 26 @ 2:22 PM ET
The Rangers don't have the cap space to add Bozak, it's such a moot point that seemingly never ends
- jimbro83


I blame your boyfriend Brooks
TrueBlueRanger
Joined: 07.14.2010

Jul 26 @ 2:23 PM ET
let me ask you, if Marc Staal is sitting up in the press box for an extended period of time, considering he has 4 more years on his deal, even at half the cap hit, who the hell would want that?

right now there are guys like Franson and Markov available for free

- jimbro83


Markov will not sign for 2.5.

If there are no takers for Staal he will sit and eventually get bought out. I just don't want so much dead cap space. That is my only point.
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