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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 25 @ 2:31 PM ET
Its common for all athletes to improve as they age. Just look at Giroux. Prime example.
- PLindbergh31




ummm, what?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 25 @ 2:32 PM ET
It's also the GM's opinion that Stolarz is better off getting more AHL experience since only played 36 games total last year.
- Feanor


Just 36 games, huh? And under the age of 25 you say?

I say he plays ten more seasons in the ahl, no less than 700 starts. Let's get him up here by age 36.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 25 @ 2:36 PM ET
ummm, what?
- MBFlyerfan


consider the source
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 25 @ 2:38 PM ET
5 x 5.35 for Zibanejad

Bridge deals win again
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 25 @ 2:39 PM ET
Same here, I first checked in now, and wish I was here for it.

I have the guitars of SRV, Dimebag and Zakk Wylde tattooed on my arm. Still love SRV and Dimebag...Zakk has dwindled a bit, mostly because of his last few albums, but I did get the tattoo 12 years ago and he was still trying to write new material back then.

- VladDrag

We, also, Wish You Were Here
EducatedOpinion
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 10.11.2013

Jul 25 @ 2:39 PM ET
Same here, I first checked in now, and wish I was here for it.

I have the guitars of SRV, Dimebag and Zakk Wylde tattooed on my arm. Still love SRV and Dimebag...Zakk has dwindled a bit, mostly because of his last few albums, but I did get the tattoo 12 years ago and he was still trying to write new material back then.

- VladDrag

Love Dimebag and Zakk. Still remember that nutjob taking out Dimebag while I was in high school.
pinkfloydfreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jul 25 @ 2:40 PM ET
Re Bonds and anyone juicing: I don't care what performance enhancing drugs athletes want to take as long as they are the ones willingly taking them and willing to deal with the negative side effects during use and later in life. If someone cares that much about their athletic career in the grand scheme of their entire life to risk their long term health, more power to them as far as I'm concerned.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 25 @ 2:43 PM ET
Re Bonds and anyone juicing: I don't care what performance enhancing drugs athletes want to take as long as they are the ones willingly taking them and willing to deal with the negative side effects during use and later in life. If someone cares that much about their athletic career in the grand scheme of their entire life to risk their long term health, more power to them as far as I'm concerned.
- pinkfloydfreak


I do agree, in a way. My issue is that, in order to keep up, it puts pressure on other players to do it, and it also shows kids what they need to do to become mega stars. Whether it's due to winning, making more $$, etc. , you see guys juicing and think, "If I want to be on the same level as them, I should do this too."
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 25 @ 2:43 PM ET
This is my thought as well. I can't see them eating the penalty for four years if they did it in 2018
- MBFlyerfan


I think, with 50% retention, they would be able to move him prior to his last season. I'd rather deal with the one year of 2.5 million in dead space then have that 2nd year of 1.9 in 20-21. Especially when you figure that Patrick, Myers and Lindblom will be off their ELC's that year and you will have just re-signed Provorov, Sanheim and Konecny the previous season.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 25 @ 2:44 PM ET
I think, with 50% retention, they would be able to move him prior to his last season. I'd rather deal with the one year of 2.5 million in dead space then have that 2nd year of 1.9 in 20-21. Especially when you figure that Patrick, Myers and Lindblom will be off their ELC's that year and you will have just re-signed Provorov, Sanheim and Konecny the previous season.
- BiggE


...and Simmonds.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 25 @ 2:46 PM ET
Re Bonds and anyone juicing: I don't care what performance enhancing drugs athletes want to take as long as they are the ones willingly taking them and willing to deal with the negative side effects during use and later in life. If someone cares that much about their athletic career in the grand scheme of their entire life to risk their long term health, more power to them as far as I'm concerned.
- pinkfloydfreak


Sure, but if the league they play in bans them, well, it's cheating and they should be barred for life.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 25 @ 2:46 PM ET
...and Simmonds.
- jmatchett383

Yup, and Jake and Giroux will both likely still be here and eating 16.525 of the cap as well. It really makes more sense to swallow the 2.5 during 19-20 than to stretch it out and deal with the 1.9 in 20-21.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 25 @ 2:47 PM ET
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 25 @ 2:49 PM ET
Yup, and Jake and Giroux will both likely still be here and eating 16.525 of the cap as well. It really makes more sense to swallow the 2.5 during 19-20 than to stretch it out and deal with the 1.9 in 20-21.
- BiggE


But dude...a soon-to-be 40-year-old "offensive" defenseman with no speed, an extreme drop-off in offensive production, and complete lack of a defensive game just signed a 1-year deal at $700K. How ever could any defenseman who isn't a surefire HOFer be worth any more?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 25 @ 2:50 PM ET

- Mononoke


It's okay to use steroids, as long as you don't get caught using a corked bat while on steroids.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 25 @ 2:51 PM ET
But dude...a soon-to-be 40-year-old "offensive" defenseman with no speed, an extreme drop-off in offensive production, and complete lack of a defensive game just signed a 1-year deal at $700K. How ever could any defenseman who isn't a surefire HOFer be worth any more?
- jmatchett383

I really don't understand this thing you're doing
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 25 @ 2:52 PM ET
I really dont understand this thing you're doing
- YuenglingJagr


Nobody does except for about 3 people on here.

Edit: This doesn't make sense now.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 25 @ 2:57 PM ET
I do agree, in a way. My issue is that, in order to keep up, it puts pressure on other players to do it, and it also shows kids what they need to do to become mega stars. Whether it's due to winning, making more $$, etc. , you see guys juicing and think, "If I want to be on the same level as them, I should do this too."
- jmatchett383


And that's why they shouldn't be permitted in pro sports
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Jul 25 @ 3:02 PM ET
Anyone know how it would affect the Flyers if the Flyers were to trade Mac and retain salary at some point and then he was bought out by another team on the last year of his deal?
- pinkfloydfreak

If he can stay healthy during camp then once other teams D get injured and whatnot he can be traded away with no retention.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 25 @ 3:02 PM ET
No, they don't. They allow your muscles to heal quicker, allowing you to increase power (or, at the very least, not fatigue it over a season). He's an absolutely amazing baseball player. He was going to go down as a top-10 all-time player. The fact that he knowingly took a banned substance to enhance his game in order to solidify his spot in baseball is equal to what Pete Rose did, in my book.

He said something to the effect of it being important that the top-2 career home run leaders were black, as I remember it. That never say well with me.

- jmatchett383


He also made some quasi antisemitic remarks.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 25 @ 3:14 PM ET
If he can stay healthy during camp then once other teams D get injured and whatnot he can be traded away with no retention.
- Konalover

Any suggestions as to what team would want him? Just give an example.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 25 @ 3:15 PM ET
I do agree, in a way. My issue is that, in order to keep up, it puts pressure on other players to do it, and it also shows kids what they need to do to become mega stars. Whether it's due to winning, making more $$, etc. , you see guys juicing and think, "If I want to be on the same level as them, I should do this too."
- jmatchett383

Except that clearly hasn't happened
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 25 @ 3:17 PM ET
Except that clearly hasn't happened
- Giroux_Is_God


That's why bonds did it.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 25 @ 3:20 PM ET
Except that clearly hasn't happened
- Giroux_Is_God


Because it's banned in the majors
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 25 @ 3:21 PM ET
Just 36 games, huh? And under the age of 25 you say?

I say he plays ten more seasons in the ahl, no less than 700 starts. Let's get him up here by age 36.

- SuperSchennBros


He has 107 total AHL games played and is 23 years old.

Corey Crawford had 277 before he became a full time NHL player at age 25.

Jimmy Howard had 216 before he became a full time NHL player at age 25.
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