Thinking the trade was even at worst and favoring the Jackets at best. I think Artie and Dubi both lived up to expectations, grew as players along the way, and in Artie's case returned some good assets via trade. In other words, CBJ got what they bargained for.

Nash has had his moments in NY and is probably known most for what he hasn't done (score big in playoffs) than for what he brings on a nightly basis. I think that with his price tag more is expected (not unfair given his salary) and he hasn't delivered enough on the offensive side, especially in the playoffs, to justify the salary and assets given up. So the Rangers got less of a return then they bargained for.

I'm not sure, however, if the Rangers expectations of Nash being the missing piece to a Stanley Cup were fair on him because he HAS put up some numbers and has been a very strong two-way player. Since the expectation was a Cup, I think the failure to win one gets put on Nash to some degree even though he has been a great all-around Ranger.

I think the single greatest moment for Nash as a Ranger was his first trip back to Columbus after the trade. He was a total wrecking ball that night and played with speed, skill, and a tenacity level that he has not been able to replicate, especially at crunch time. Had we gotten THAT version of Nash on a nightly basis I'd feel different about this trade. To me it's like - he HAS that extra gear in him but he just doesn't seem to be able to harness it, especially when we need it the most.


Just my 2 cents

Thinking the trade was even at worst and favoring the Jackets at best. I think Artie and Dubi both lived up to expectations, grew as players along the way, and in Artie's case returned some good assets via trade. In other words, CBJ got what they bargained for.

Nash has had his moments in NY and is probably known most for what he hasn't done (score big in playoffs) than for what he brings on a nightly basis. I think that with his price tag more is expected (not unfair given his salary) and he hasn't delivered enough on the offensive side, especially in the playoffs, to justify the salary and assets given up. So the Rangers got less of a return then they bargained for.

I'm not sure, however, if the Rangers expectations of Nash being the missing piece to a Stanley Cup were fair on him because he HAS put up some numbers and has been a very strong two-way player. Since the expectation was a Cup, I think the failure to win one gets put on Nash to some degree even though he has been a great all-around Ranger.

I think the single greatest moment for Nash as a Ranger was his first trip back to Columbus after the trade. He was a total wrecking ball that night and played with speed, skill, and a tenacity level that he has not been able to replicate, especially at crunch time. Had we gotten THAT version of Nash on a nightly basis I'd feel different about this trade. To me it's like - he HAS that extra gear in him but he just doesn't seem to be able to harness it, especially when we need it the most.


Just my 2 cents
- jacheech

wouldn't you say that Columbus had an expectation to win a playoff series within 5 years of the deal though?

wouldn't you say that Columbus had an expectation to win a playoff series within 5 years of the deal though?
- jimbro83

not my monkeys, not my circus. Sounds like the writer thinks the team is better off since the trade.

wouldn't you say that Columbus had an expectation to win a playoff series within 5 years of the deal though?
- jimbro83

Wouldnt you say NYR had an expectation to win a cup when they were a game 6 ECF team and adding Nash within 5 years of the deal though?

Wouldnt you say NYR had an expectation to win a cup when they were a game 6 ECF team and adding Nash within 5 years of the deal though?
- Stan_Bowman

yes, and they came close, they made a final, won a Prez trophy, and another conference final but failed to go all the way

I don't how that convinces me that Columbus won the trade when they haven't done a thing whatsoever since the trade, despite having one of best goalies in NHL themselves

The season before the trade the Rangers had 44 more points than Columbus, and the CBJ had Nash. The Columbus roster was a tire fire, and this trade was the first step towards respectability. Love to see the Rangers in the playoffs next year, and wouldn't trade rosters with the Rangers at this time, that's for sure.

yes, and they came close, they made a final, won a Prez trophy, and another conference final but failed to go all the way

I don't how that convinces me that Columbus won the trade when they haven't done a thing whatsoever since the trade, despite having one of best goalies in NHL themselves
- jimbro83

Contrary to the blogg i'd call it a draw, Howson made the best of a bad situation being that Nash wanted out , a gm rarely wins in those kind of trades, the return was more then serviceable , in fact I recall in the 2012-2013 season when they first iced that team , we witnessed a shift from a one man show to a collective team effort , and if it wasn't for Colorado blowing that one goal lead against Minnesota they would of made the post season. Dubinsky is overpaid , but unfortunately management was being reactionary and he would of gotten his money elsewhere. Anisimov sorta kinda of gave us Saad/ Panarin (you know what I mean), as for Erixson he was the token prospect at the time, Rychel might not be a bust , he had a good ahl season with Toronto , his dad forced that trade on management.

As for the Rangers , they got that star player who helped them dominate during the season , the debate is if the Rangers can capitalise on that trade and obtain a cup in the process , i'm pretty sure they didn't bring Nash in for some playoff rounds a Cup final appearance .

I agree , at this point the cbj should be pushing to winning a playoff round, perhaps this year.

Very hard to grade this trade as CBJ also acquired Bobs around the same time. Bobs single handedly turned them into a contender. Nash has not lived up to his salary - but most players dont. any player being paid more than $5M generally is considered underachieving(there are a few exceptions).

I always loved Dubi and losing him was the hardest part of that trade, but i still think i would do it as Nash gave the rangers another weapon, and in all reality - a lot of hope.

I actually think the Gabby trade was the better trade for the rangers.
- richardson30

Contender is very generous considering they have only made the playoffs twice in 5 years since acquiring him. They also have not won a playoff series although playing Pittsburgh both times doesnt help.

The season before the trade the Rangers had 44 more points than Columbus, and the CBJ had Nash. The Columbus roster was a tire fire, and this trade was the first step towards respectability. Love to see the Rangers in the playoffs next year, and wouldn't trade rosters with the Rangers at this time, that's for sure.
- Eric 1

and neither would we go win a facking playoff series ffs