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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 24 @ 9:03 AM ET
I think Matthews is great, but c'mon. I would put Patrick Laine and Jack Eichel on this list if you're going to put Matthews. In fact, Nylander, Marner, Draisaitl, Pastrnak, MacKinnon, Larkin, Forsberg and a few more are closer to Matthews than Matthews is to McDavid. I even like Bo Horvat as much as I like Matthews.

Switch any guy on that list with Matthews and the Leafs' fans would be salivating over THAT player.

Who knows what the future will hold, but the question is who is going to be higher ranked in the history books, 99, 66, 4, or 97...

I think Leafs Nation is doing a number on this kid's ego as well. He's great, but is Austin Matthews really a "generational talent" as they say?

My opinion is no, he's not.


winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 24 @ 9:05 AM ET
Don't think Lou was in on the kessel deal though.
- the_eye


Kessel was dealt on july 1, and Lou was hired officially on the 23rs - so techinically he was not in on that trade - you are right. Lou was still at the NJ table at the draft.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 24 @ 9:05 AM ET
I think Matthews is great, but c'mon. I would put Patrick Laine and Jack Eichel on this list if you're going to put Matthews. In fact, Nylander, Marner, Draisaitl, Pastrnak, MacKinnon, Larkin, Forsberg and a few more are closer to Matthews than Matthews is to McDavid. I even like Bo Horvat as much as I like Matthews.

Switch any guy on that list with Matthews and the Leafs' fans would be salivating over THAT player.

Who knows what the future will hold, but the question is who is going to be higher ranked in the history books, 99, 66, 4, or 97...

I think Leafs Nation is doing a number on this kid's ego as well. He's great, but is Austin Matthews really a "generational talent" as they say?

My opinion is no, he's not.



- AdamFrench


He's played a single season; McDavid's played 1.5.

I reserve judgement on all these kids.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 24 @ 9:06 AM ET
He's played a single season; McDavid's played 1.5.

I reserve judgement on all these kids.

- gravyface

The Horvat bit Holy (frank)
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 24 @ 9:09 AM ET
I think Matthews is great, but c'mon. I would put Patrick Laine and Jack Eichel on this list if you're going to put Matthews. In fact, Nylander, Marner, Draisaitl, Pastrnak, MacKinnon, Larkin, Forsberg and a few more are closer to Matthews than Matthews is to McDavid. I even like Bo Horvat as much as I like Matthews.

Switch any guy on that list with Matthews and the Leafs' fans would be salivating over THAT player.

Who knows what the future will hold, but the question is who is going to be higher ranked in the history books, 99, 66, 4, or 97...

I think Leafs Nation is doing a number on this kid's ego as well. He's great, but is Austin Matthews really a "generational talent" as they say?



My opinion is no, he's not.



- AdamFrench


Who's the imbecile that posted this?



bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 24 @ 9:09 AM ET
I think Matthews is great, but c'mon. I would put Patrick Laine and Jack Eichel on this list if you're going to put Matthews. In fact, Nylander, Marner, Draisaitl, Pastrnak, MacKinnon, Larkin, Forsberg and a few more are closer to Matthews than Matthews is to McDavid. I even like Bo Horvat as much as I like Matthews.

Switch any guy on that list with Matthews and the Leafs' fans would be salivating over THAT player.

Who knows what the future will hold, but the question is who is going to be higher ranked in the history books, 99, 66, 4, or 97...

I think Leafs Nation is doing a number on this kid's ego as well. He's great, but is Austin Matthews really a "generational talent" as they say?

My opinion is no, he's not.



- AdamFrench




Where is this from?
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jul 24 @ 9:11 AM ET
Where is this from?
- bixll

EK thread.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 24 @ 9:12 AM ET
first of all why the need to compare these guys?

Eichel, McDavid and Matthews all elite C-men; each different in their own way.
Not sure who will get the most individual points (probably McDavid) but that's not really the point for the fans; the most important is if, and how many Stanley Cups the player contributes to for his team to win.

My guess is, that Matthews will pan out to be the more all-round player who is an 9 on all bits of the game; McDavid is a 10 on offense, but with less defensive qualities.

In addition, it seems Matthews will have better teammates ; Marner is the young forward that is closest in NHL to these three elite players (McDavid, Eichel, Matthews).
And then Nylander great 1st line RW to play with Matthews.

We should call ourselves lucky to be Leafs-fans
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 24 @ 9:15 AM ET
Who's the imbecile that posted this?




- winsix

Some Oiler fan
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 24 @ 9:16 AM ET
I think Matthews is great, but c'mon. I would put Patrick Laine and Jack Eichel on this list if you're going to put Matthews. In fact, Nylander, Marner, Draisaitl, Pastrnak, MacKinnon, Larkin, Forsberg and a few more are closer to Matthews than Matthews is to McDavid. I even like Bo Horvat as much as I like Matthews.

Switch any guy on that list with Matthews and the Leafs' fans would be salivating over THAT player.

Who knows what the future will hold, but the question is who is going to be higher ranked in the history books, 99, 66, 4, or 97...

I think Leafs Nation is doing a number on this kid's ego as well. He's great, but is Austin Matthews really a "generational talent" as they say?

My opinion is no, he's not.



- AdamFrench



come on
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 24 @ 9:18 AM ET
EK thread.
- the_eye



Well,,,,,,, It is an opinion.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 24 @ 9:18 AM ET
The Horvat bit Holy (frank)
- AdamFrench



Unreal
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 24 @ 9:28 AM ET
Some Oiler fan
- AdamFrench


Without looking, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it was Larsson Fan?

the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jul 24 @ 9:34 AM ET
Without looking, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it was Larsson Fan?
- As_I_See_It

Probably his alt.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:36 AM ET
I think Matthews is great, but c'mon. I would put Patrick Laine and Jack Eichel on this list if you're going to put Matthews. In fact, Nylander, Marner, Draisaitl, Pastrnak, MacKinnon, Larkin, Forsberg and a few more are closer to Matthews than Matthews is to McDavid. I even like Bo Horvat as much as I like Matthews.

Switch any guy on that list with Matthews and the Leafs' fans would be salivating over THAT player.

Who knows what the future will hold, but the question is who is going to be higher ranked in the history books, 99, 66, 4, or 97...

I think Leafs Nation is doing a number on this kid's ego as well. He's great, but is Austin Matthews really a "generational talent" as they say?

My opinion is no, he's not.



- AdamFrench

What a blog choice EK...


Next week... in 2038... who will be higher?!??!!?


I don't know if Larkin or Horvat on that list is more funny. I'll go with both being equal.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jul 24 @ 9:45 AM ET
What a blog choice EK...


Next week... in 2038... who will be higher?!??!!?


I don't know if Larkin or Horvat on that list is more funny. I'll go with both being equal.

- markmark


Bo Horvat is the next Olli Jokinen
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 24 @ 9:59 AM ET
The Horvat bit Holy (frank)
- AdamFrench


Sweet jesus, I just reread that post.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 24 @ 10:00 AM ET
The Horvat bit Holy (frank)
- AdamFrench


Yes - I guess the dweeb should have included Connor Brown on that list, he scored more than Horvat.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 24 @ 10:03 AM ET
What a blog choice EK...


Next week... in 2038... who will be higher?!??!!?


I don't know if Larkin or Horvat on that list is more funny. I'll go with both being equal.

- markmark

Also some pissant 6 year old from Slovakia could be better than both by 2038 who knows?
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 24 @ 10:16 AM ET
Also some pissant 6 year old from Slovakia could be better than both by 2038 who knows?
- AdamFrench


OR this guy

Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Jul 24 @ 10:27 AM ET
That's sounds sweet. We took a 2017 Cadillac Escalade extended SUV OUT FOR A SPIN. I BELIEVE it was 6.3 L quite capable of pulling something. My twin boys are 14 months old. Want to take them camping and travel with them.
- BreathLeafs2015


Where are you going to park a trailer for work if you buy a SUV? Escalades are very nice but better declare enough income or CRA will be watching your reno business.
Schennski
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jul 24 @ 10:42 AM ET
first of all why the need to compare these guys?

Eichel, McDavid and Matthews all elite C-men; each different in their own way.
Not sure who will get the most individual points (probably McDavid) but that's not really the point for the fans; the most important is if, and how many Stanley Cups the player contributes to for his team to win.

My guess is, that Matthews will pan out to be the more all-round player who is an 9 on all bits of the game; McDavid is a 10 on offense, but with less defensive qualities.

In addition, it seems Matthews will have better teammates ; Marner is the young forward that is closest in NHL to these three elite players (McDavid, Eichel, Matthews).
And then Nylander great 1st line RW to play with Matthews.

We should call ourselves lucky to be Leafs-fans

- MaximusAurelius


I'm hoping Matthews will be to Mcdavid what Toews has been to Crosby.
annoyed
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: ON
Joined: 10.28.2013

Jul 24 @ 10:44 AM ET
MiB

Good idea for a post but it would have benefited from summarizing Lou's overall performance instead of just listing and grading his individual trades. Lou had a reputation as a shrewd trader but these trades are largely meh.

Is Lou's Leafs trade record better, worse or the same as his trade record in New Jersey?

Overall, I think you were too generous with your grades. "A"s should be reserved for team changing trades like Phaneuf's and Andersen's. The other As or A-s should be Bs. Brian Boyle's trade should be an F, a failure.

Next trade is likely to be a C or B at best.

- Leafsandbolts


Brian Boyle trade was far from a F. With a touch of luck we get to the 2nd round or further....and he played a pretty good part of it. Sucks he didnt resign...that's the chances you take.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 24 @ 10:45 AM ET
The Horvat bit Holy (frank)
- AdamFrench


Last year's Canucks derp was that Boeser is going to be better than Marner.

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 24 @ 10:46 AM ET
No, that's what the wife is for
- lumlums

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