Dude my god.

Didn't you JUST use Joe Thornton as a comparison?

So if Versteeg is a really good passer, isn't that what he's "known for" and that's how he should be judged?
- sbroads24

He's not though
He's mediocre at everything

Just ignore him, he's not worth the time and seems to always trying to start an argument or get under peoples skin. I can't stand people like that and have realized it's better not to engage, because it's a battle that can not be won. You're better off talking to a wall, or air lol.

But you're right. So many people complain that we need a sniper and a finisher, yet want to trade Kane, or let him walk without a replacement plan. Then, they will try and down play how valuable he is by attacking his character, saying he's too 1 dimensional, ect. But those are most likely people who don't understand hockey very well, and just how special and rare his style of play and talent really is. A 25 year old that can absolutely fly, brings physicality, can score 5 on 5, and actually put fear onto the other team. Not many players have those attributes. Now is he a perfect player? Not even close. And should he deserve a raise? Well if it were up to me I wouldn't give it to him, but such is the NHL life for UFAs. Teams have most of the leverage for the first 7 years, then the player gets it when they hit UFA status. That's what all players look forward to. And it's the reason he will make more than most of the RFAs that just signed (Arvidsson, Gaudreau, ect).

- Dukey3030[url]

Quite well said sir

Just ignore him, he's not worth the time and seems to always trying to start an argument or get under peoples skin. I can't stand people like that and have realized it's better not to engage, because it's a battle that can not be won. You're better off talking to a wall, or air lol.

But you're right. So many people complain that we need a sniper and a finisher, yet want to trade Kane, or let him walk without a replacement plan. Then, they will try and down play how valuable he is by attacking his character, saying he's too 1 dimensional, ect. But those are most likely people who don't understand hockey very well, and just how special and rare his style of play and talent really is. A 25 year old that can absolutely fly, brings physicality, can score 5 on 5, and actually put fear onto the other team. Not many players have those attributes. Now is he a perfect player? Not even close. And should he deserve a raise? Well if it were up to me I wouldn't give it to him, but such is the NHL life for UFAs. Teams have most of the leverage for the first 7 years, then the player gets it when they hit UFA status. That's what all players look forward to. And it's the reason he will make more than most of the RFAs that just signed (Arvidsson, Gaudreau, ect).

- Dukey3030[url]

Such a rare special breed of hockey player that's played in numerous All Star games and Olympics. So many playoff appearances too.

Jason Pominville in his prime didn't get this amount of ego stroking and he was twice the player

He's not though
He's mediocre at everything
- jdfitz77

Yet produces similarly to him.

Maybe they are just both more towards the mediocre side.

.....and Kane is better than Versteeg.

Yet produces similarly to him.

Maybe they are just both more towards the mediocre side.

.....and Kane is better than Versteeg.
- sbroads24

Kane is mediocre at assists... actually, less than mediocre
And he takes too many penalties

Scoring, forchecking, physical play, SPEED, penalty killing, work on the boards...
ALL aspects of his game that bring value to our team

Yet u NEVER talk about ANY of that
ONLY that he's a 40point player in which to downplay his attributes

U know u do
Whether u can admit it or not is on u

Just ignore him, he's not worth the time and seems to always trying to start an argument or get under peoples skin. I can't stand people like that and have realized it's better not to engage, because it's a battle that can not be won. You're better off talking to a wall, or air lol.

But you're right. So many people complain that we need a sniper and a finisher, yet want to trade Kane, or let him walk without a replacement plan. Then, they will try and down play how valuable he is by attacking his character, saying he's too 1 dimensional, ect. But those are most likely people who don't understand hockey very well, and just how special and rare his style of play and talent really is. A 25 year old that can absolutely fly, brings physicality, can score 5 on 5, and actually put fear onto the other team. Not many players have those attributes. Now is he a perfect player? Not even close. And should he deserve a raise? Well if it were up to me I wouldn't give it to him, but such is the NHL life for UFAs. Teams have most of the leverage for the first 7 years, then the player gets it when they hit UFA status. That's what all players look forward to. And it's the reason he will make more than most of the RFAs that just signed (Arvidsson, Gaudreau, ect).

- Dukey3030[url]

Kane is mediocre at assists... actually, less than mediocre
And he takes too many penalties

Scoring, forchecking, physical play, SPEED, penalty killing, work on the boards...
ALL aspects of his game that bring value to our team

Yet u NEVER talk about ANY of that
ONLY that he's a 40point player in which to downplay his attributes

U know u do
Whether u can admit it or not is on u
- jdfitz77

I'm not talking about his attributes. We all know what those are.

I'm talking about his results. If his attributes don't lead to greater results than who gives a flying (frank) about them?

Kane is a decent 2nd line player. I like that he's here, and if he was signed for the next three years we wouldn't have this discussion.

In a perfect world he's on our 3rd line when we are able to roll 3 solid scoring lines

I'm not talking about his attributes. We all know what those are.

I'm talking about his results. If his attributes don't lead to greater results than who gives a flying (frank) about them?

Kane is a decent 2nd line player. I like that he's here, and if he was signed for the next three years we wouldn't have this discussion.

In a perfect world he's on our 3rd line when we are able to roll 3 solid scoring lines
- sbroads24

Because not all his attributes are quantified when u describe him as a 40point player

And the bold part is BULLSH!T
You haven't just started talking about Kane a week ago
This has been going on since DAY ONE

Because not all his attributes are quantified when u describe him as a 40point player

And the bold part is BULLSH!T
You haven't just started talking about Kane a week ago
This has been going on since DAY ONE
- jdfitz77

The whole discussion is based on us paying him 6 mil *going forward*

His attributes mean nothing. He's been in the league 8 years. His results are what matter. Period.

I'm basing my opinion of him based on those results.

There are very few wingers who I'd pay 6 mil per season. Like maybe 25. Kane isn't one

The whole discussion is based on us paying him 6 mil *going forward*

His attributes mean nothing. He's been in the league 8 years. His results are what matter. Period.

I'm basing my opinion of him based on those results.

There are very few wingers who I'd pay 6 mil per season. Like maybe 25. Kane isn't one
- sbroads24

Yeah, we know u hate him
U tell us EVERY WEEK

Yeah, we know u hate him
U tell us EVERY WEEK
- jdfitz77

Yes, I hate him because I wouldn't give him a big deal.

I hate the trade. Hated the GM who made it. Hate the guy (as a player) who we got with him. But I don't hate what Kane is as a player. He's a top 6 forward

Yes, I hate him because I wouldn't give him a big deal.

I hate the trade. Hated the GM who made it. Hate the guy (as a player) who we got with him. But I don't hate what Kane is as a player. He's a top 6 forward
- sbroads24

Right...
we all know bc u won't shut up about him

You're worse than me...
and that's saying something!

Hahaha

Anyone watch Blooddrive?

I'm 10min into the 1st episode & I'm kinda hooked already
The opening was great

Hopefully it holds up

Read some Shakespeare.

I'm an Agnostic leaning towards Atheism. So if that's what you meant by a believer and a follower, sorry to burst your bubble.
- Wetbandit1

I believe we're just at the starting position and when we pass we end up in the multiverse
And at that point that's when our real life Begins

Awful, just awful. I made it about :47.
- Wetbandit1

That's 47 seconds longer than I made it.

I believe we're just at the starting position and when we pass we end up in the multiverse
And at that point that's when our real life Begins
- GERBE!!!75PTS

nope, you die and thats it, game over.

I believe we're just at the starting position and when we pass we end up in the multiverse
And at that point that's when our real life Begins
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I weep.

nope, you die and thats it, game over.
- BeadyEyedDouche

You're also wrong. After we die, either the flames win or the worms do.

You're also wrong. After we die, either the flames win or the worms do.
- Der Kaiser

No flames for me, (frank) that.

Kane would be very valuable at the deadline, teams want players like him going into the playoffs. If were in position to make the playoffs I think we keep him, if not I think we trade him at the deadline.

GoT! Omg, that's more like it.

I weep.
- Der Kaiser

If you truly believe there is no multiverse then so be it ..

We have not even touched the surface what's really out there we don't have the technology to break through yet

Kane would be very valuable at the deadline, teams want players like him going into the playoffs. If were in position to make the playoffs I think we keep him, if not I think we trade him at the deadline.
- Flynox

If we still haven't signed him by the deadline...
then I definitely want him traded

nope, you die and thats it, game over.
- BeadyEyedDouche

I don't believe that but everyone has a opinion

If you truly believe there is no multiverse then so be it ..

We have not even touched the surface what's really out there we don't have the technology to break through yet
- GERBE!!!75PTS

We've had peyote for centuries