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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 25 @ 10:12 AM ET


I really don't understand the hate on Lehner from some people. He put up very respectable numbers on a team that was less than respectable in a lot of a ways.

- HonkFortheGoose

0 saves in shootout

0


also I think he faded down the stretch, probably due to not being use to so many starts


if he starts on a tear this year and makes a decent amount of saves in the shoot out fans will turn in his favor
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:15 AM ET
0 saves in shootout

0


also I think he faded down the stretch, probably due to not being use to so many starts


if he starts on a tear this year and makes a decent amount of saves in the shoot out fans will turn in his favor

- homiedclown

Nope... They will still cry about that 1st round pick.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:15 AM ET
0 saves in shootout

0


also I think he faded down the stretch, probably due to not being use to so many starts


if he starts on a tear this year and makes a decent amount of saves in the shoot out fans will turn in his favor

- homiedclown


The only reason why people like him is his hot temper attitude

they don't look at that 30 some games where he lets in three to four goals
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:17 AM ET
Nope... They will still cry about that 1st round pick.
- jochfr


But we did overpay you basically traded a number two defenseman or a first-line player for a guy that's average
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 25 @ 10:18 AM ET
The only reason why people like him is his hot temper attitude

they don't look at that 30 some games where he lets in three to four goals

- GERBE!!!75PTS



GAA is a team stat. Save % is a goalie stat
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 25 @ 10:19 AM ET
GAA is a team stat. Save % is a goalie stat
- jcragcrumple

is the save % in a shootout a team stat

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 25 @ 10:20 AM ET
is the save % in a shootout a team stat


- homiedclown



No that's on him. I still think it's a statistical fluke. Most goalies would have at least 1 shooter miss the net entirely. He may never be dominant in the shootout but it's statistically improbable to see something like that again
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:22 AM ET
But we did overpay you basically traded a number two defenseman or a first-line player for a guy that's average
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Who?

Also aren't his numbers above average?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 25 @ 10:23 AM ET
But we did overpay you basically traded a number two defenseman or a first-line player for a guy that's average
- GERBE!!!75PTS

that's a stretch


2007 Riley Nash was 21st pick
2008 Anton Gustafsson
2009 John Moore
2010 Riley Sheahan
2011 Stefan Noesen


for every Eberle or Carlson taken between picks 20-30 there is 15 Stefan Noesen's
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:24 AM ET
that's a stretch


2007 Riley Nash was 21st pick
2008 Anton Gustafsson
2009 John Moore
2010 Riley Sheahan
2011 Stefan Noesen


for every Eberle or Carlson taken between picks 20-30 there is 15 Stefan Noesen's

- homiedclown

But we traded all the #2 defensmen for him!*@(^!*)$@Y)X
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jul 25 @ 10:25 AM ET
But we did overpay you basically traded a number two defenseman or a first-line player for a guy that's average
- GERBE!!!75PTS

it was an overpayment but i still don't let that cloud my view of his actual play. is he perfect.. hell no. but i think with an improved defense that can clear the zone he can increase those numbers greatly and be a upper middle goalie. i dont think he will ever be top 10 but i could see him being in that 15 to 10 range over a season
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 25 @ 10:25 AM ET
Who?

Also aren't his numbers above average?

- jochfr

easy, he still thinks Wonder Woman is going to obtain the impossible

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 25 @ 10:26 AM ET
But we traded all the #2 defensmen for him!*@(^!*)$@Y)X
- jochfr

or the next Mark Jankowski

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=155332
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 25 @ 10:27 AM ET
0 saves in shootout

0


also I think he faded down the stretch, probably due to not being use to so many starts


if he starts on a tear this year and makes a decent amount of saves in the shoot out fans will turn in his favor

- homiedclown


They need to score in shootouts as well. Not sure exactly and I don't care to actually look it up at this point, but I'm also pretty sure they scored 0 goals in those shootouts as well. So even had he made some saves, it wouldn't have made that much of a difference.

Does he need to be better there? Absolutely. But at the end of the day, he wasn't the only thing plaguing our shootout success.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:28 AM ET
that's a stretch


2007 Riley Nash was 21st pick
2008 Anton Gustafsson
2009 John Moore
2010 Riley Sheahan
2011 Stefan Noesen


for every Eberle or Carlson taken between picks 20-30 there is 15 Stefan Noesen's

- homiedclown


Every Scout said the 2015 draft would be stacked but we just threw pics away

jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:28 AM ET
or the next Mark Jankowski

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=155332

- homiedclown

Everyone laughed at that reach by Calgary...
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 25 @ 10:30 AM ET
Every Scout said the 2015 draft would be stacked but we just threw pics away
- GERBE!!!75PTS



C'mon, if we had picked Lehner using that pick, I think you'd have a different opinion
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:33 AM ET
C'mon, if we had picked Lehner using that pick, I think you'd have a different opinion
- jcragcrumple

But all the #2 defenseman and 1st line players were available at that pick and we flushed it down the poopter...
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:35 AM ET
easy, he still thinks Wonder Woman is going to obtain the impossible
- homiedclown




https://www.google.com/am...-box-office-summer-record

Another record broken what a shock
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jul 25 @ 10:36 AM ET
C'mon, if we had picked Lehner using that pick, I think you'd have a different opinion
- jcragcrumple

had we not traded that pick for lehner who would have been our goalie? there weren't many available at the time.. maybe we could have picked up Eddie lack..

i am shocked at how well talbot did last year but those three were the top goalies avialable for trade at that time..

lehner
talbot
lack

and that was the order they were ranked by most scouts


EDIT: and talbots save % was lower than lehner.. he just had more goal support
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
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Jul 25 @ 10:40 AM ET
C'mon, if we had picked Lehner using that pick, I think you'd have a different opinion
- jcragcrumple

Seeing as you never pick a goalie in the first round unless they're generational then sure

All the starting goalies in the NHL are usually late round picks unless generational type in the first if they get that label


But hey if Robin played Jones then sure amazing trade
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 25 @ 10:44 AM ET
It's kind of hard to score when your goalie let's in three to four goals in some night in what maybe 30 some games. He just gets rid of the energy when they start going and then they just give up
- GERBE!!!75PTS



You're confusing him with Miller
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 25 @ 10:47 AM ET
Great signing, hopefully they give Lehner a full time sports therapist. Shootouts break that crazy beast. Housley better have a strong OT attack.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 25 @ 10:47 AM ET
The only reason why people like him is his hot temper attitude

they don't look at that 30 some games where he lets in three to four goals

- GERBE!!!75PTS


oh
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
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Jul 25 @ 10:51 AM ET
You're confusing him with Miller
- Stripes77


If we had Miller we be in the playoffs so no I'm not
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