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joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Jul 23 @ 3:53 PM ET
The fact that someone legitimately said "no one wants Giroux in my fantasy league so his value is zero in the NHL" is heartbreaking.
- Giroux_Is_God


This is true but I have Giroux portraits, jerseys, tshirts and all being that he was my fav player. But I like to be honest all the time and the past two years I have seen him as a very lazy and unmotivated captain. I do not know how bad he is banged up by certainly not the same guy he was. I keep thinking it may be Hakstol's system but not sure but if you watch him he seems to be more interested in floating. That being said I hope he can bounce back and get back in the 70 point range where he should be.
HOWSMYDICTATE
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.30.2017

Jul 23 @ 3:56 PM ET
The object of the game is to hit and not be hit. Obviously he can not take it and not quick or smart enough to avoid it. 80 games missed in six years is not good for the team. You have to know who is on the ice at all times, sure many hits are unavoidable but head down and you will pay.
- joegreif17

My original statement stands +2
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Jul 23 @ 3:57 PM ET
Okay guys, I am outta here for today. Meeting my buddies 93-28-11 for lunch downtown. We are going to discuss how this could be the number one line and how we are going to fill the net this year Have a great sunday everyone.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Jul 23 @ 3:57 PM ET
My original statement stands +2
- HOWSMYDICTATE


I don't really like you either
HOWSMYDICTATE
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.30.2017

Jul 23 @ 4:00 PM ET
Okay guys, I am outta here for today. Meeting my buddies 93-28-11 for lunch downtown. We are going to discuss how this could be the number one line and how we are going to fill the net this year Have a great sunday everyone.
- joegreif17

good riddance
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 23 @ 4:04 PM ET
Okay guys, I am outta here for today. Meeting my buddies 93-28-11 for lunch downtown. We are going to discuss how this could be the number one line and how we are going to fill the net this year Have a great sunday everyone.
- joegreif17

Always a pleasure
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Jul 23 @ 4:16 PM ET
good riddance
- HOWSMYDICTATE


Sorry I was not talking to you my short peckered friend
HOWSMYDICTATE
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.30.2017

Jul 23 @ 4:24 PM ET
Sorry I was not talking to you my short peckered friend
- joegreif17

Quite the hypocrite. Don't worry, butter. Im not going to run to mommy and flag your post.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 23 @ 4:45 PM ET
I always thought as this team returned to being a good team that it would be more pleasant here.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 23 @ 5:19 PM ET
Coots puts it all together and is a Selke nominee.
- Konalover


joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Jul 23 @ 5:37 PM ET

- ob18


Would that ever be nice
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 23 @ 6:06 PM ET
Today @ 8:50 AM ET
On a team full of guys who can't do jack poop at ES and can only score on the PP... Coots is on an island.

Flank him w/ a couple of guys who can also get it done at ES, and Coots' numbers will respond accordingly.


Yep

It really is this simple
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 23 @ 6:09 PM ET
Some Flyers fans:

"I am going to criticize Brayden Schenn for scoring most of his points on the power play and not being a difference maker at even strength"

Also Flyers fans:

"I am going to criticize Sean Couturier for scoring most of his points at even strength and not being much of a factor on the power play"
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jul 23 @ 6:10 PM ET
I always thought as this team returned to being a good team that it would be more pleasant here.
- flyer_nutter



Its like you don't know the audience here.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 23 @ 6:37 PM ET
Some Flyers fans:

"I am going to criticize Brayden Schenn for scoring most of his points on the power play and not being a difference maker at even strength"

Also Flyers fans:

"I am going to criticize Sean Couturier for scoring most of his points at even strength and not being much of a factor on the power play"

- AllInForFlyers


Well, if they can't find something to be hypocritical of and female dog about, how do you expect them to be proud of themselves?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 23 @ 6:48 PM ET
I always thought as this team returned to being a good team that it would be more pleasant here.
- flyer_nutter


This board is way more active when everything is literally terrible.
Rliable
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blackwood, NJ
Joined: 02.19.2013

Jul 23 @ 6:54 PM ET
In tangential Flyers news, went to see The Who last night in Atlantic City. Spectacular show. On the way out, spotted Bob Kelly in the throng of people exiting the arena.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 23 @ 8:22 PM ET
The object of the game is to hit and not be hit. Obviously he can not take it and not quick or smart enough to avoid it. 80 games missed in six years is not good for the team. You have to know who is on the ice at all times, sure many hits are unavoidable but head down and you will pay.
- joegreif17


Pretty sure the object of the game is to score more goals than the other team.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 23 @ 10:40 PM ET
Ok. This was fun.
- Mononoke


ZOMG YOU SAID SOFT SERVE SEANIE IS A 1C!!!!111 LOLOLOLOLOOOL

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arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 23 @ 11:13 PM ET
Yes. The prestige of the 8th overall pick! Look at this long list of elite players over the years!

2013 Rasmus Ristolainen D TPS (FIN) Buffalo Sabres
2012 Derrick Pouliot D Portland (WHL) Pittsburgh Penguins
2011 Sean Couturier C Drummondville (QMJHL) Philadelphia Flyers
2010 Alex Burmistrov C Barrie (OHL) Atlanta Thrashers
2009 Scott Glennie C Brandon (WHL) Dallas Stars
2008 Mikkel Boedker LW Kitchener (OHL) Phoenix Coyotes
2007 Zach Hamill C Everett (WHL) Boston Bruins
2006 Peter Mueller C Everett (WHL) Phoenix Coyotes
2005 Devin Setoguchi RW Saskatoon Blades (WHL) San Jose Sharks
2004 Alexandre PicardLW Lewiston MAINEiacs (QMJHL)Columbus Blue Jackets
2003 Braydon Coburn D Portland Winter Hawks (WHL) Atlanta Thrashers
2002 Pierre-Marc Bouchard C Chicoutimi Sagueneens (QMJHL) Minnesota Wild
2001 Pascal Leclaire G Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL) Columbus Blue Jackets
2000 Nikita Alexeev LW/RW Erie Otters (OHL) Tampa Bay Lightning
1999 Taylor Pyatt LW Sudbury Wolves (OHL) New York Islanders
1998 Mark Bell C Ottawa 67's (OHL) Chicago Blackhawks
1997 Sergei Samsonov LW Detroit Vipers (IHL) Boston Bruins
1996 Johnathan Aitken D Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL) Boston Bruins
1995 Terry Ryan LW Tri-City Americans (WHL) Montreal Canadiens
1994 Jason Wiemer C Portland Winter Hawks (WHL) Tampa Bay Lightning
1993 Niklas Sundstrom RW Modo Ornskoldsvik (SEL) New York Rangers

- PhillySportsGuy


I'm super late, but thank you for posting this.
Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Coburn's face
Joined: 11.16.2012

Jul 23 @ 11:23 PM ET
Cooter does almost everything well (or very well). But he's not a good finisher. Great playmaker, but the Flyers don't have many wingers to put with him who are good finishers. Schenn's ability to score off re-directions, one timers and crease crashing goals is part of why they were so productive together.

We won't see Cooter's full offensive potential until we get him goal scoring wingers. Hopefully somebody better than Weise, but at least they're compatible.

Long term I see Cooter being the veteran centre that young wingers will sometimes get paired with to ease them into the NHL. I like the idea of him with big wingers who can finish (like Ratcliffe or Strome)
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Jul 23 @ 11:44 PM ET
I'm super late, but thank you for posting this.
- arichardson22



This was #8, imagine how bad it is going to be in the early 20's with the picks received for Schenn. Chances of winnng this trade is slim to none.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Jul 23 @ 11:46 PM ET
Cooter does almost everything well (or very well). But he's not a good finisher. Great playmaker, but the Flyers don't have many wingers to put with him who are good finishers. Schenn's ability to score off re-directions, one timers and crease crashing goals is part of why they were so productive together.

We won't see Cooter's full offensive potential until we get him goal scoring wingers. Hopefully somebody better than Weise, but at least they're compatible.

Long term I see Cooter being the veteran centre that young wingers will sometimes get paired with to ease them into the NHL. I like the idea of him with big wingers who can finish (like Ratcliffe or Strome)

- Coburns_Nose



He is grossly overated in my books, at least until he proves me wrong.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Jul 23 @ 11:51 PM ET
Pretty sure the object of the game is to score more goals than the other team.
- twotoekenn


You are correct but you are overlooking the obvious importance of body checking, how hard you hit people or how you are aware of your surroundings so you can take a decent hit and not get destroyed like Couter. He hits like a 98 pound weakling on the forecheck, actually he does not finish checks he swoops in and skates by and he seems to get his bell rung because he is not aware of Ovechkins running around trying to take his head off.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 24 @ 6:43 AM ET
This board is way more active when everything is literally terrible.
- johndewar

Sad, but true
No wonder so many good folks don't post here anymore
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