WE ARE KEEPIN KADRI!!!


Hilarious!!!! Go suck on this:
The more pim he has the more points he produces even in junior!!!

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We r keeping Kenny the rat linsman
- BreathLeafs2015

i see it's hard for you to keep up with the thread of conversation

i see it's hard for you to keep up with the thread of conversation
- MaximusAurelius

Oh I'm keeping up. Did you get the joke? Obviously not.

Oh I'm keeping up. Did you get the joke? Obviously not.
- BreathLeafs2015

that's bc it wasn't funny

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I've thought about it

There is no stress or need to upgrade the D immediately. I do agree that the Leafs are a contender(not favorite, but they could get out of the Atlantic and face WAS/PIT in the conference finals). There is no need to hurry or make rash decisions.

Rielly(who I love) had an objectively bad year. I expect better and so does everyone else including Babs and Rielly. Will he be Bobby? Will he be Niklas? Will he be Karlsson? No (frank)ing way. But he can be a legit top pairing.

Gardiner is fantastic and has seriously limited his "disgraceful goal costing errors" and he'll probably continue to get better on that decision making front. Zaitsev is legit.

If the Leafs enter this season with their current roster nobody will be bragging about their blueline, but people need to stop talking like they have a garbage blue line. They don't. Let's see what happens.

Also, Carrick. He was actually quite good last year for a rookie and I believe he could eventually be a top 4. Or an Ian White type who was very good and could play up and down the lineup and in all situations if necessary. If Carrick is on our bottom pair and can play the PP/PK minutes when the others are tired/in the box I'd be more than happy with that.

I liked this blog. The options are reasonable and don't count us trading futures for today's version of Bobby Orr(he doesn't exist and he's not available).
- Njuice

Agree, well said.

I think the Leafs should

Sheary:
- Inflated value while playing with Crosby
- Need larger sample size without benefit of Crosby is see if he's legit
- Small forward 5'9" 175lbs... 25yrs old

Summary: Not convinced

Maatta:
- Missed 104 games over last three season due to injury and health issues
- Hasn't come close to living up to expectations
- Needs to prove he can stay healthy
- Missed significant time in junior as well

Summary: Injuries + poopty health + 5 yrs remaining = RISK

PIT 1st:
- Likely in the 24-31 range

Summary: Meh.

vs.

Kadri:
- GREAT contract
- Perfect 2C/3C
- Has physical game, while defensive game is developing nicely
- 32G / 95 PIM last season... Only Wayne Simmonds has potted 30G with 100 PIM in last 5 yrs (by no means am I saying Kadri = Simmonds, but you see my point)
- Appears to be just hitting his stride and taking the next steps

Summary: Still has more upside entering his prime years and fits nicely into Leafs' future, while on a SWEET contract



Do better. Sorry.
- As_I_See_It

I do like this responce and get where you are coming from. There is some risk but Im sure any hockey fan can see there is huge reward with the young centers leafs could possibly put out if Kadri was gone.
Problem is:
Sheary - If value is inflated from Crosby doesnt that mean Nylanders is as well with Mathews?
-If Sheary keeps producing at this rate his value goes WAY up like all other wingers playing with great centermen
-Small players that can skate, grind, and are smart players like sheary are fitting in on every team more and more often every year.

Maatta - Value of young dmen that already can play 20 minutes a night is apparently through the roof. See: (Hall for Larrsson)
-Injuries are definitely a factor no doubt and thats a risk but at 22 definitely a good chance he gets over those. Cant really fault anyone for getting cancer or the mumps that can happen to the most durable athlete alive.
- Played around 20 minutes a night for 3 seasons and when hes on the ice doesnt look out of place against top lines.

1st round - Its low in the round but firsts always see to tempt GMs no matter what when added with another piece.

Kadri- No doubt a great contract. Cleary a great 3rd line C or good 2nd C. As mentioned not a fan of PIMs but i see your point. Id rather a guy play like Hornqvist and keep away from the silly penalties and not going to the box alone. (Does not mean Id rather have Hornqvist over Kadri) Those usually end up hurting your team. Also does keeping Kadri limit Marner or Nylander in say 2 years or more? Especially if Bozak stays!? Saying this I do belive Bozak helps this team more than hes given credit for. And prime years for most NHL players these days are 23-27. Thats for points and overall game. Which he is only 1 year away from passing. Check here-
http://www.tsn.ca/pinning...erformance-years-1.388514

Just saying I agree with your post and do see both sides, there is risk I just feel the leafs can be deeper as a team with this trade. If Sheary and Maatta both keep progessing and a 1st or prospect (doesnt have to be a 1st, think Sprong, Jarry, Pouliot or a couple of prospects whichever the leafs value most) along with it then this trade definitely should make the leafs management think long and hard.

Agree, well said.
- Zezel

Remember this time last year how the Leafs were going to finish 30th because the D was the worst in league, as touted by fakesie and friends? But old Varky had a different view. Good times..

Wtf is the world coming to when I am the voice of reason?

I do like this responce and get where you are coming from. There is some risk but Im sure any hockey fan can see there is huge reward with the young centers leafs could possibly put out if Kadri was gone.
Problem is:
Sheary - If value is inflated from Crosby doesnt that mean Nylanders is as well with Mathews?
-If Sheary keeps producing at this rate his value goes WAY up like all other wingers playing with great centermen
-Small players that can skate, grind, and are smart players like sheary are fitting in on every team more and more often every year.

Maatta - Value of young dmen that already can play 20 minutes a night is apparently through the roof. See: (Hall for Larrsson)
-Injuries are definitely a factor no doubt and thats a risk but at 22 definitely a good chance he gets over those. Cant really fault anyone for getting cancer or the mumps that can happen to the most durable athlete alive.
- Played around 20 minutes a night for 3 seasons and when hes on the ice doesnt look out of place against top lines.

1st round - Its low in the round but firsts always see to tempt GMs no matter what when added with another piece.

Kadri- No doubt a great contract. Cleary a great 3rd line C or good 2nd C. As mentioned not a fan of PIMs but i see your point. Id rather a guy play like Hornqvist and keep away from the silly penalties and not going to the box alone. (Does not mean Id rather have Hornqvist over Kadri) Those usually end up hurting your team. Also does keeping Kadri limit Marner or Nylander in say 2 years or more? Especially if Bozak stays!? Saying this I do belive Bozak helps this team more than hes given credit for. And prime years for most NHL players these days are 23-27. Thats for points and overall game. Which he is only 1 year away from passing. Check here-
http://www.tsn.ca/pinning...erformance-years-1.388514

Just saying I agree with your post and do see both sides, there is risk I just feel the leafs can be deeper as a team with this trade. If Sheary and Maatta both keep progessing and a 1st or prospect (doesnt have to be a 1st, think Sprong, Jarry, Pouliot or a couple of prospects whichever the leafs value most) along with it then this trade definitely should make the leafs management think long and hard.
- pens4life-66

I appreciate the creativity you've demonstrated, and the somewhat realistic value you've put on the pieces involved. But......no.....thankyou

oh i agree and understand.
but the 95-100pims as well mean about 7-8 goals against per season directly related to these pims..
- MaximusAurelius

So when Kadri playing this aggressive style draws more penalties than he takes how does your math work on those PP goals for?

I do like this responce and get where you are coming from. There is some risk but Im sure any hockey fan can see there is huge reward with the young centers leafs could possibly put out if Kadri was gone.
Problem is:
Sheary - If value is inflated from Crosby doesnt that mean Nylanders is as well with Mathews?
-If Sheary keeps producing at this rate his value goes WAY up like all other wingers playing with great centermen
-Small players that can skate, grind, and are smart players like sheary are fitting in on every team more and more often every year.

Maatta - Value of young dmen that already can play 20 minutes a night is apparently through the roof. See: (Hall for Larrsson)
-Injuries are definitely a factor no doubt and thats a risk but at 22 definitely a good chance he gets over those. Cant really fault anyone for getting cancer or the mumps that can happen to the most durable athlete alive.
- Played around 20 minutes a night for 3 seasons and when hes on the ice doesnt look out of place against top lines.

1st round - Its low in the round but firsts always see to tempt GMs no matter what when added with another piece.

Kadri- No doubt a great contract. Cleary a great 3rd line C or good 2nd C. As mentioned not a fan of PIMs but i see your point. Id rather a guy play like Hornqvist and keep away from the silly penalties and not going to the box alone. (Does not mean Id rather have Hornqvist over Kadri) Those usually end up hurting your team. Also does keeping Kadri limit Marner or Nylander in say 2 years or more? Especially if Bozak stays!? Saying this I do belive Bozak helps this team more than hes given credit for. And prime years for most NHL players these days are 23-27. Thats for points and overall game. Which he is only 1 year away from passing. Check here-
http://www.tsn.ca/pinning...erformance-years-1.388514

Just saying I agree with your post and do see both sides, there is risk I just feel the leafs can be deeper as a team with this trade. If Sheary and Maatta both keep progessing and a 1st or prospect (doesnt have to be a 1st, think Sprong, Jarry, Pouliot or a couple of prospects whichever the leafs value most) along with it then this trade definitely should make the leafs management think long and hard.
- pens4life-66

You're trying to be reasonable which is fair enough. Kadri is in the core group. Exponentially more so than Bozak. Marner will not play center. Nylander might not even play center.

I do like this responce and get where you are coming from. There is some risk but Im sure any hockey fan can see there is huge reward with the young centers leafs could possibly put out if Kadri was gone.
Problem is:
Sheary - If value is inflated from Crosby doesnt that mean Nylanders is as well with Mathews?
-If Sheary keeps producing at this rate his value goes WAY up like all other wingers playing with great centermen
-Small players that can skate, grind, and are smart players like sheary are fitting in on every team more and more often every year.

Maatta - Value of young dmen that already can play 20 minutes a night is apparently through the roof. See: (Hall for Larrsson)
-Injuries are definitely a factor no doubt and thats a risk but at 22 definitely a good chance he gets over those. Cant really fault anyone for getting cancer or the mumps that can happen to the most durable athlete alive.
- Played around 20 minutes a night for 3 seasons and when hes on the ice doesnt look out of place against top lines.

1st round - Its low in the round but firsts always see to tempt GMs no matter what when added with another piece.

Kadri- No doubt a great contract. Cleary a great 3rd line C or good 2nd C. As mentioned not a fan of PIMs but i see your point. Id rather a guy play like Hornqvist and keep away from the silly penalties and not going to the box alone. (Does not mean Id rather have Hornqvist over Kadri) Those usually end up hurting your team. Also does keeping Kadri limit Marner or Nylander in say 2 years or more? Especially if Bozak stays!? Saying this I do belive Bozak helps this team more than hes given credit for. And prime years for most NHL players these days are 23-27. Thats for points and overall game. Which he is only 1 year away from passing. Check here-
http://www.tsn.ca/pinning...erformance-years-1.388514

Just saying I agree with your post and do see both sides, there is risk I just feel the leafs can be deeper as a team with this trade. If Sheary and Maatta both keep progessing and a 1st or prospect (doesnt have to be a 1st, think Sprong, Jarry, Pouliot or a couple of prospects whichever the leafs value most) along with it then this trade definitely should make the leafs management think long and hard.
- pens4life-66

It's kind of funny actually that Pittsburgh actually wants Toronto players but has nothing of interest for Toronto. After a decade of poop it's nice.

Hey you won without Letang. There's a Pen worth trading for, Rielly-Letang wow.

I cant see nylander moving to center but i can definitely see Komarov moving to center if bozak is traded or included in a package for a defender. Our strength is on the wing right now, lots of depth. Matthews is #1 and Kadri #2.

If anything, players that should me available for a top 4 defender on this roster should be guys like komarov, jvr, bozak, hyman, brown, sosh, leivo, carrick, bracco, rychel, kapanen if leafs were looking at creating a package for one.

marner - matthews - nylander - kadri.
only 4 leafs fw's that are clearly better than jagr
- MaximusAurelius

What brand of glue do you sniff? Asking for a friend

What brand of glue do you sniff? Asking for a friend
- NewfoundLeafer

It's definitely MAXimum strength.

It's definitely MAXimum strength.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I'm probably not going to like any of these

**proceeds to read article**

My prior suspicions were correct

It's definitely MAXimum strength.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I do like this responce and get where you are coming from. There is some risk but Im sure any hockey fan can see there is huge reward with the young centers leafs could possibly put out if Kadri was gone.
Problem is:
Sheary - If value is inflated from Crosby doesnt that mean Nylanders is as well with Mathews?
-If Sheary keeps producing at this rate his value goes WAY up like all other wingers playing with great centermen
-Small players that can skate, grind, and are smart players like sheary are fitting in on every team more and more often every year.

Maatta - Value of young dmen that already can play 20 minutes a night is apparently through the roof. See: (Hall for Larrsson)
-Injuries are definitely a factor no doubt and thats a risk but at 22 definitely a good chance he gets over those. Cant really fault anyone for getting cancer or the mumps that can happen to the most durable athlete alive.
- Played around 20 minutes a night for 3 seasons and when hes on the ice doesnt look out of place against top lines.

1st round - Its low in the round but firsts always see to tempt GMs no matter what when added with another piece.

Kadri- No doubt a great contract. Cleary a great 3rd line C or good 2nd C. As mentioned not a fan of PIMs but i see your point. Id rather a guy play like Hornqvist and keep away from the silly penalties and not going to the box alone. (Does not mean Id rather have Hornqvist over Kadri) Those usually end up hurting your team. Also does keeping Kadri limit Marner or Nylander in say 2 years or more? Especially if Bozak stays!? Saying this I do belive Bozak helps this team more than hes given credit for. And prime years for most NHL players these days are 23-27. Thats for points and overall game. Which he is only 1 year away from passing. Check here-
http://www.tsn.ca/pinning...erformance-years-1.388514

Just saying I agree with your post and do see both sides, there is risk I just feel the leafs can be deeper as a team with this trade. If Sheary and Maatta both keep progessing and a 1st or prospect (doesnt have to be a 1st, think Sprong, Jarry, Pouliot or a couple of prospects whichever the leafs value most) along with it then this trade definitely should make the leafs management think long and hard.
- pens4life-66

Crosby has consistently made scrubs look good. Sheary's stats suggest a regression coming. Buyer beware on sheary. And we don't need a winger.

Maatta is slow and not good. No interest.

Nylander creates his own offense. Don't have to watch him much to know that.

Kadri draws way more penalties than he takes. If kadri is traded, its for a known commodity - idk, say maybe someone like dumolin. But definitely not a hopeful in maatta.

Option 6. Doughty.

Option 6. Doughty.
- Ralphb1967

Why would you even mention markov? You say he would be an option but for much less than the 6m he is asking. If he was taking less than his demand he would be a hab.
- 1993_Cup_Champs

Because nobody wants to play for that crap franchise in that hellhole of a city, poutine is disgusting, and 92.8% of hot Quebecois women end up as strippers.

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Leafs trade Kadri to the Penguins! Hear me out... Kadri for Maatta 22y/o, Sheary 25y/o, and 1st round pick. The leafs have Mathews, Bozak, Marner, Nylander, Marleau, Fehr, Moore, Komarov all with experience playing center. That hole easily gets filled by 1 of those players. Maatta fills in nicely with a young group with tons of room to grow, Sheary has shown he can rack up the points with a playmaker and can skate with anyone on LW or RW and a 1st can be used in a trade. (JVR or Bozak) Ive heard a couple leafs fans say Mathews, Marner and Nylander would all be better fits playing center for the team and to make them all reach there top potentials. 3 scoring centers for years to come? Lets hear some responces leafs fans!
- pens4life-66

Hey! Your right! you guys do need a center! And we could use a dman! So you're right about our centers with experience! and we can trade you Fehr he's 6.3 can still skate and talk about experience he's won a Stanley Cup! but you probably know that! and matta a 22 year old injury prone kid making 4mil +? The only time he played good was with letang! So no thanks man! but it was interesting Sheary and the first + another dman? ! For ferh,Marincin and a couple of marlies prospects?