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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 20 @ 8:47 PM ET
But ov was captain at a young age so you're wrong there

Toews is the captain so that's your franchise player

Then you have Tyler Seguin who was not a franchise player at the time and he wasn't going to beat out a HOF player

Sooooo

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Again, moving the goal posts.

Ovechkin was 24, he was in the league for 5 years before he was made captain. That's a lot of experience before he was made captain. "Young age" is relative.

I went over the list yesterday. 15 teams do not have their best player as their captain. Half the league.

You make it seem like being captain makes you start the season with 20 points or something. He'll likely get a letter. There will probably be 3 A's that get rotated(a bunch of teams do this) ROR, Eichel, Okposo, and Risto will all probably get letters.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 20 @ 8:47 PM ET
because it would break the universe
- Sabresfan-365



FIFY
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jul 20 @ 8:49 PM ET
Again, moving the goal posts.

Ovechkin was 24, he was in the league for 5 years before he was made captain. That's a lot of experience before he was made captain. "Young age" is relative.

I went over the list yesterday. 15 teams do not have their best player as their captain. Half the league.

You make it seem like being captain makes you start the season with 20 points or something. He'll likely get a letter. There will probably be 3 A's that get rotated(a bunch of teams do this) ROR, Eichel, Okposo, and Risto will all probably get letters.

- Wetbandit1

Jack or bust
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 20 @ 9:06 PM ET
Again, moving the goal posts.

Ovechkin was 24, he was in the league for 5 years before he was made captain. That's a lot of experience before he was made captain. "Young age" is relative.

I went over the list yesterday. 15 teams do not have their best player as their captain. Half the league.

You make it seem like being captain makes you start the season with 20 points or something. He'll likely get a letter. There will probably be 3 A's that get rotated(a bunch of teams do this) ROR, Eichel, Okposo, and Risto will all probably get letters.

- Wetbandit1



Yet ov was 2nd youngest captain in the NHL at that time ..

We seem to be going way off the road
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jul 20 @ 9:39 PM ET
Yet ov was 2nd youngest captain in the NHL at that time ..

We seem to be going way off the road

- GERBE!!!75PTS



I think the way that you're trying to phrase your statement/question is too open ended. You're giving people plenty of chances to show that the best player isn't always a captain (especially right away). You can find many teams that do not have their young, burgeoning star as the captain of a team.

That's how I am taking this argument.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 20 @ 9:51 PM ET
I think the way that you're trying to phrase your statement/question is too open ended. You're giving people plenty of chances to show that the best player isn't always a captain (especially right away). You can find many teams that do not have their young, burgeoning star as the captain of a team.

That's how I am taking this argument.

- thatsapickle

Toronto is the perfect example. They didn't have a captain last year. Is Matthews a guarantee?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 20 @ 9:56 PM ET
Toronto is the perfect example. They didn't have a captain last year. Is Matthews a guarantee?
- Hatboro_Swords


99%. But they don't have an ROR.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 20 @ 10:21 PM ET
99%. But they don't have an ROR.
- Wetbandit1

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm going with Kadri.
alty
Boston Bruins
Location: Norfolk, ME
Joined: 11.30.2006

Jul 20 @ 10:40 PM ET
Check out Jack Eichel at the Foxboro Sports Center Pro League
www.thehockeyshow.net
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 20 @ 10:47 PM ET
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm going with Kadri.
- Hatboro_Swords


If he wasn't such a dirty scuz of a player, I would completely agree.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jul 20 @ 10:53 PM ET
Check out Jack Eichel at the Foxboro Sports Center Pro League
www.thehockeyshow.net

- alty

He playing with Vesey again?
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Jul 20 @ 11:38 PM ET
Toronto is the perfect example. They didn't have a captain last year. Is Matthews a guarantee?
- Hatboro_Swords


100% he's the next captain
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 21 @ 12:58 AM ET
He playing with Vesey again?
- Pierceme69

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 21 @ 1:10 AM ET
wow


jt smith on top line



http://www.thehockeynews....-look-like-in-three-years
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 21 @ 2:06 AM ET
wow


jt smith on top line



http://www.thehockeynews....-look-like-in-three-years

- homiedclown


Interesting. No Antipin. McCabe on the 3rd pair. 7 centers on the team.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 21 @ 2:42 AM ET
wow


jt smith on top line



http://www.thehockeynews....-look-like-in-three-years

- homiedclown



Good (frank)ing god I hope this isn't the Roster in 3 years what the hell?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 21 @ 3:54 AM ET
Good (frank)ing god I hope this isn't the Roster in 3 years what the hell?
- BeadyEyedDouche


The article, it was basically just a "what's in the system". No UFA signings or big trades. Just re-signing your own guys.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jul 21 @ 7:32 AM ET
wow


jt smith on top line



http://www.thehockeynews....-look-like-in-three-years

- homiedclown

so they don't like Casey Middlestats?
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jul 21 @ 8:01 AM ET
wow


jt smith on top line



http://www.thehockeynews....-look-like-in-three-years

- homiedclown


Yea I came across this yesterday also, didn't want to waste everyone's time with this stupidity. No Middelstadt and CJ Smith would be bottom 6 at best.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 21 @ 8:48 AM ET
wow


jt smith on top line



http://www.thehockeynews....-look-like-in-three-years

- homiedclown



GMJB is definitely going to let Kane walk for nothing and fill that void with C.J.Smith
Where do I apply for a bloggers position at that site I'm a lazy writer as well
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jul 21 @ 8:57 AM ET
wow


jt smith on top line



http://www.thehockeynews....-look-like-in-three-years

- homiedclown


With what we had before the tank at the Center position, looking at that lineup puts a huge smile on my face.......


also add Middlestat to Jacks line and Kane to reinhart's... I'm liking the forward group.
If Guhle is as good as I hope, fun times are coming back to buffalo.

Add Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen as the goalie
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jul 21 @ 9:07 AM ET
Its Wedding Season!


3 weekends.....3 weddings...all the food i can eat and beer i can drink!
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 21 @ 9:12 AM ET
Its Wedding Season!


3 weekends.....3 weddings...all the food i can eat and beer i can drink!

- feetontheair22


Luckily, I haven't had that happen yet. Did have 2 that were two weeks apart last summer. Only had one on the slate for this year, and it was back in May.

My friend and his wife had like 6 weddings last year. I think I'd shoot myself.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 21 @ 9:27 AM ET
Its Wedding Season!


3 weekends.....3 weddings...all the food i can eat and beer i can drink!

- feetontheair22

jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 21 @ 10:01 AM ET
Shut up everybody!
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