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walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 19 @ 8:07 AM ET
Surely to poop there's someone in the whole of the United States of America that can teach this sad sack Jays team to hit with RISP. There has to be. That 8th inning was completely embarrassing. And they show this poop on 4 or 5 channels.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 19 @ 8:07 AM ET
Im glad the leafs arent doing exactly that with Marleau.
- Fakepartofme


JVR has misssed a half season's worth of games twice in the past six years, in case that math is too difficult for you, that 33% roughly. His health track record for playing full seasons is not comparable to Marleau's. It's is not likely to improve as he gets older.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 19 @ 8:10 AM ET
JVR has misssed a half season's worth of games twice in the past six years, in case that math is too difficult for you, that 33% roughly. His health track record for playing full seasons is not comparable to Marleau's. It's is not likely to improve as he gets older.
- winsix



JVR also went to the Phil Kessel school of rugged play..
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jul 19 @ 8:25 AM ET
SUCK IT HOHO, LUMS, AND BARB!
- Steven_Seagull


No! And ya can't make me either Gully McGull Face!

Go (frank) your hat!

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 19 @ 8:27 AM ET
Surely to poop there's someone in the whole of the United States of America that can teach this sad sack Jays team to hit with RISP. There has to be. That 8th inning was completely embarrassing. And they show this poop on 4 or 5 channels.
- walshyleafsfan

They swing for the fences. Still havent learned...and wont. Why are people still surprised by this?
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jul 19 @ 8:29 AM ET
Im glad the leafs arent doing exactly that with Marleau.
- Fakepartofme

You think Jvr will be a Marleau type player when he's 37?
I don't think it's likely.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 19 @ 8:33 AM ET
You think Jvr will be a Marleau type player when he's 37?
I don't think it's likely.

- the_eye


JVR hasn't been a Marleau type player yet in his career.

JVR walks at the end of the year, barring a collapse where we're not making the playoffs, and then we flip him for whatever.

People will complain about poor asset management, but I doubt we've received any decent offers for him so far and likely won't all season.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 19 @ 8:33 AM ET
JVR has misssed a half season's worth of games twice in the past six years, in case that math is too difficult for you, that 33% roughly. His health track record for playing full seasons is not comparable to Marleau's. It's is not likely to improve as he gets older.
- winsix

Ok. But no one was comparing their health records. Also, the other 4 seasons in the past 6 he only missed 2.
Simply pointed out that the leafs signed a player over 35 for more than 6 mil plus, which previously was stated that the leafs would not be interested in doing so.

Question is will Marleau's health stay the same or decrease as he gets older?
He'll be 38 this season.
We'll see.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 19 @ 8:35 AM ET
You think Jvr will be a Marleau type player when he's 37?
I don't think it's likely.

- the_eye

No. but no one ever said to sign JVR until he's 37 or older.
Jesus he's only 28.
No one has ever mentioned signing him for longer than 5 or 6 years.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 19 @ 8:41 AM ET
BOZAK may not back check but 7th in league last year in face off wins at 56.7%
Kadri 76th in league at faceoff wins at 48%

It doesn't really matter a real pro and a good man will sharpen up his skills in off season. Kadri has improved upon year before last and he reminds me of the rat
Kenny linseman. We will have to wait and see what leafs do with JVR BOZAK
and eventually komorav

- BreathLeafs2015

Yes
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 19 @ 8:45 AM ET
Yes
- AdamFrench




Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 19 @ 8:52 AM ET
I'm not sure why this Matthews, Nylander, Marner cap thing is always coming up.

There are few better teams positioned in the league cap wise than Toronto. Any deals signed beyond the next couple seasons are insanely economical. What are there, 4? Marleaus contract is the biggest reach, and year 3 of it is a wash, which makes it a non factor before a Marner extension would even kick in.

Pittsburgh seemed to do just fine with Crosby, Malkin, and Kessel on the payroll, and still managed to fit Letang, Fleury, Kuntz, Daley, hornqvist... Etc.

I can't find a way to see this as nothing more than media induced hysteria. Oh God, Toronto has 3 good players who will need money, how will they fit anyone else?

- joel878


Go to NHLnumbers.com

create yourself a spreadsheet.

look at what we have committed, make a realistic estimate of Matthews Marner Nylander. (hint: you don't get them for something like 20 million total, closer to 25 or more.)

Then try to fill out a roster.

The Leafs are fine now, but to suggest that thing won't get tight a couple years from now it silly.

Part of what people are missing is that "top" players no longer sign for 8, mediocre players are getting 2,3,4 million and the cap is going up very slowly, if at all.

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 19 @ 8:54 AM ET
JVR also went to the Phil Kessel school of rugged play..
- bixll


He is the softest player on the team.

He will not be missed.
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jul 19 @ 8:54 AM ET
No. but no one ever said to sign JVR until he's 37 or older.
Jesus he's only 28.
No one has ever mentioned signing him for longer than 5 or 6 years.

- Fakepartofme

He'll want at least 6 mill with max years, that'll pay him at least 6 when he's 36, no thank you.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 19 @ 9:09 AM ET
He is the softest player on the team.

He will not be missed.

- Aetherial



As baby shiit
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 19 @ 9:13 AM ET
He is the softest player on the team.

He will not be missed.

- Aetherial

One day he will score with his between the legs move and you'll all beg for forgiveness!
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 19 @ 9:14 AM ET
He is the softest player on the team.

He will not be missed.

- Aetherial

Andreas Johnson is ready to take his place. Johnson's gonna be a fan's favourite I reckon.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 19 @ 9:15 AM ET
One day he will score with his between the legs move and you'll all beg for forgiveness!
- AdamFrench



JVR seemed to disappear with 20 games or so to go in the season last year..

Get what we can for him, JMO
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jul 19 @ 9:16 AM ET
JVR seemed to disappear with 20 games or so to go in the season last year..

Get what we can for him, JMO

- bixll

It was Marners fault, he was tired....
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 19 @ 9:17 AM ET
Andreas Johnson is ready to take his place. Johnson's gonna be a fan's favourite I reckon.
- walshyleafsfan

Is that fan Leafman?
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 19 @ 9:20 AM ET
Is that fan Leafman?
- AdamFrench

All Leafs nation. He'll make us wish Nonis was still in charge.

6 goals in the Marlies playoffs last year. He's a gamer. Him and Kapanen will make Justin Williams look like a Blue Jays better in terms of clutchnesss.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 19 @ 9:21 AM ET
It was Marners fault, he was tired....
- the_eye



He will have to blame someone else for sure.. Can't be him.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 19 @ 9:21 AM ET
It was Marners fault, he was tired....
- the_eye

Jesus. It was painful watching Marner from games 65-82 last year.

Bless him.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 19 @ 9:22 AM ET
Anybody know how long you have to wait until you can sign a player's next contract while he's still on an ELC? McDavid waited until after year 2, but not sure if they could've offered him a deal sooner.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 19 @ 9:22 AM ET
One day he will score with his between the legs move and you'll all beg for forgiveness!
- AdamFrench

I've scored on the in between the legs move numerous times. Ask Lums' mom.
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