OOOOOOOOOH REEEEEEEEALLLLY NOW...



Punisher
-2 separate movies, 2nd was reboot
-1 tv show reboot

Daredevil
-movie was regarded as horrible (I liked it)
-tv show reboot

Elektra
-spinoff of Daredevil movie, got trashed
(I also liked this one)

Fantastic Four
-didn't see the reboot, but it's generally called one of the worst superhero movies made

Hellboy
-getting a reboot
-the 1st two movies were well accepted, but I was underwhelmed

Incredible Hulk
-3 different actors playing the main character in 3 movies
(I'll just leave out the stupidly horrible tv show which was a joke, bc its from a time before what we are really discussing now)
-what's left for this character in the current Marvel / Avengers stories
Are they gonna vanish him to Planet Hulk, etc?

Spider-Man
-has been rebooted twice now
-Spider-man 3 rivals the latest Fantastic4 as far as sh!tty comic book movies go


And I'll even say this about the Avengers current storyline...
it's getting pretty ridiculous
It's at such a grand scale now,
that every movie is just about the end of the world



As long as these movies keep making $$$ they'll keep getting rebooted
It's not about whether they're good or not
It's business buddy, plain & simple
- jdfitz77

And Disney made those ? Nope

It's probably worth noting that none of the movies you mentioned were made by Marvel except for Incredible Hulk, which is actually considered part of the current MCU.

In the early 90's Marvel sold the film rights to many of its characters to avoid bankruptcy. They've since gotten some of those rights back (like Daredevil/Elektra, Punisher, Blade).

Hellboy isn't Marvel.
- JetpackJesus

They were Marvel movies though
But yeah, I get your point

If you're gonna say that though,
you have to throw out many of the older DC versions Gerbe is referencing as well Bc they weren't being made by the same ppl now in charge

What's your definition of "classic" though?
Seems u might be saying it has to be one of these "epic" type tales

Today's generation would talk about Avatar for example
How about the Matrix?

Are the Bourne movies this generations Indiana Jones?
Do those count as classics?

And does it even have to be so "epic" in nature?
Were movies like Dead Poets Society classics? Shawshank redemption, etc

Is the Departed or Boondock Saints a newer "classic" than The Godfather or Scarface, etc?


U can do it with tv too


All I'm saying is that your (and anyone's) perspective is drastically shaped by what they thought was great when they were growing up

So your "classics" aren't what this generation or, or the generation before you, perceives to be their "classics" necessarily
It matters heavily on personal perspective
- jdfitz77

classic IMO stands the time and is something you can watch with the next generation 20 years later

shawshank is on that list for sure

jurassic park

bourne, maybe leaning that way

but again, every movie you listed was over 10 years old and proves my point

And Disney made those ? Nope
- GERBE!!!75PTS

you need to watch the 2004 punisher

And Disney made those ? Nope
- GERBE!!!75PTS

A lot of the DC movies u referenced had a completely different set of ppl behind them than they do now... correct?

So if you're throwing out old "Marvel" movies,
you have to do the same with the older DC ones too


But regardless... my point stands

ALL superhero movies will keep getting remade/rebooted with different storylines, characters, etc...
as long as they keep making $$$

And that's ALL it's about
Sorry bud,
but it'll NEVER be about pleasing comic book nerds

If that's what u want,
you're gonna have to stick to the comics!!!

Hell no that wasn't a dream .. ( are you talking about when the flash went back in time to warn Bruce of Darkseid? ) One of the Stupidest things in the movie also lol

If they didn't have comic book nerds and cartoon nerds their movies wouldn't sell so they should please us and give back to those fans Imo

Or they're going to have there box offices drop 400-500 million
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I'm talking about the assault on the truck in the desert where he uses an assault rifle. Again, if it wasn't a dream, then poop had gone seriously bad at that point. Like I said before, adapt and overcome.

classic IMO stands the time and is something you can watch with the next generation 20 years later

shawshank is on that list for sure

jurassic park

bourne, maybe leaning that way

but again, every movie you listed was over 10 years old and proves my point
- homiedclown

Not really
Was just listing movies from MY generation of "classics"

Tough to say what will hold up 20years from now
But I'm sure there will be plenty, according to ppl who are 20yrs old TODAY

I really liked the punisher movie with Thomas Jane

Daredevil was decent, got a bad rap

don't waste your time with the new fantastic 4, bad on so many levels

hellboy was great, should have kept it going

hulk, never got it right
you can't show the hulk for 5 minutes in a stand alone movie, and they did it twice

spiderman, mixed
I have not seen the 3rd reboot but
the first batch was good but they f@cked up the goblin and I love the goblin


the second batch was decent, but they f@cked up the lizard, my 3rd favorite bad guy


you never talked about the abortion called ghost rider
they screwed the dog with the second one
- homiedclown

Agree on a lot of that
Just saying...
if they keep making $$$
They'll get remade

And I'm literally watching the Thomas Jane Punisher movie right meow

Superheroes are (frank)ing lame af

And I'm literally watching the Thomas Jane Punisher movie right meow
- jdfitz77

he is going to be in the new predator movie

A lot of the DC movies u referenced had a completely different set of ppl behind them than they do now... correct?

So if you're throwing out old "Marvel" movies,
you have to do the same with the older DC ones too


But regardless... my point stands

ALL superhero movies will keep getting remade/rebooted with different storylines, characters, etc...
as long as they keep making $$$

And that's ALL it's about
Sorry bud,
but it'll NEVER be about pleasing comic book nerds

If that's what u want,
you're gonna have to stick to the comics!!!
- jdfitz77

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All of them are WB they have always had the rights

When Disney took over marvel they turned it into gold and went straight to the comics for the movies for example they turned a b list character such as Doctor Strange into a mega hit

And thor ragnarok is straight from the comics so you're saying I shouldn't be pissed off if they don't do everything like it..

Understand films are being rebooted but that's because they were huge failure in the past for DC

what was the last classic to come out though?


gladiator?
the patriot?
- homiedclown

Saving Private Ryan, Lord of The Rings Trilogy

This is going to get pretty interesting ( the Ra's al Ghul thing followers was not his fault it's not like he started the fire on purpose and intentionally killed those people) Harvey Dent he couldn't hold onto him so therefore he died so it really wasn't an intentional kill ) (garbage truck scene maybe )

In bvs Batman intentionally kills people without any warning and he Slaughters them lol he probably killed over 40 people in that phone Just one movie

https://youtu.be/RWgyKDfFC_U ( that's why at the end of the movie The Joker was happy that he was dying but then when Batman saved him he was pissed off )

https://youtu.be/EJCxgt7Qb6k


And let's look at this
https://youtu.be/GgkQS7q6sT0
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I am going to stand by the notion that if you cause something to happen that directly leads to the death of another person, then you have killed that person. I apply this equally to real human beings and fictional ones. So if I light a building on fire and it causes explosions that kill people and causes the roof to collapse on someone inside it, I have killed those people.

In the current comics, where the "No Killing" notion comes from, Batman won't ever be causing something to happen that results in the death of another. So now you're already letting the ultimate rule about Batman slide to excuse the Nolan movies.

I do agree that the Bat-kills in the Nolan movies are not the same as what we see in BvS. But he's not far off from the way he murdered people in the Burton movies.

Again, I just find the strong reaction a lot of people have to the killing in BvS to be interesting because chances are extremely high that their favorite Batman movie featured Batman killing people.

Now, I don't think people are wrong to dislike the way he was portrayed killing people in BvS. BUT, if you're a fan of any Batman movie that isn't B&R or '66, then I think it's disingenuous to say you don't like the killing in BvS because "Batman never kills."

Superheroes are (frank)ing lame af
- chilliard77

v

Yet without them you wouldn't have your precious Walking Dead

mike wilson
craig rivet
ed hospodar
shaone morrisonn
kulikov
andy delmore



just missing out
dykstra
grand piere
weber
benoit
and reekie
- homiedclown

Benoit for sure
Kalinin just because he was the biggest choker ever.
McBain
Strachan
Pardy
Morrisonn
Finley
Janik
Pratt
Jillson
Delmore

And that's just back to 2000

I'm talking about the assault on the truck in the desert where he uses an assault rifle. Again, if it wasn't a dream, then poop had gone seriously bad at that point. Like I said before, adapt and overcome.
- Wetbandit1

That was actually not a dream( I know people are going to say no that was a dream
That was the flash trying to warn him about the future of Darkseid

Yet that would confuse any normal fan that was watching it lol

Here is every kill https://youtu.be/GgkQS7q6sT0

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All of them are WB they have always had the rights

When Disney took over marvel they turned it into gold and went straight to the comics for the movies for example they turned a b list character such as Doctor Strange into a mega hit

And thor ragnarok is straight from the comics so you're saying I shouldn't be pissed off if they don't do everything like it..

Understand films are being rebooted but that's because they were huge failure in the past for DC
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Crazy talk...
The Tim Burton Batman trilogy was a HUGE success

The movies are being rebooted Bc they make crazy $$$
That's the ONLY reason
It's a business dude


All these Marvel movies will be rebooted in time as well

Baptiste, larsson and 2018 2nd for Tatar? Decent value for Detroit considering he may end of leaving next year, not sure we lose much other than a lottery ticket if he didn't sign with us. He would look good beside Eichel.

he is going to be in the new predator movie
- homiedclown

Another Predator?
Ugh... idk

The Predator vs Alien movie was dumb (didn't see AvP 2)
The latest version was ok, but nothing special

v

Yet without them you wouldn't have your precious Walking Dead
- GERBE!!!75PTS

That doesn't change that they're lame af

Another Predator?
Ugh... idk

The Predator vs Alien movie was dumb (didn't see AvP 2)
The latest version was ok, but nothing special
- jdfitz77

If it makes you feel any better, it's being written and directed by Shane Black (Iron Man 3, Lethal Weapon, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang), who also was in the original Predator.

Shane Black is awesome, so I'm willing to give it a shot.

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All of them are WB they have always had the rights

When Disney took over marvel they turned it into gold and went straight to the comics for the movies for example they turned a b list character such as Doctor Strange into a mega hit

And thor ragnarok is straight from the comics so you're saying I shouldn't be pissed off if they don't do everything like it..

Understand films are being rebooted but that's because they were huge failure in the past for DC
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I guarantee you'll be p!ssed bc I highly doubt all they do is copy the exact story from the comic
That would be pointless & dumb

If it makes you feel any better, it's being written and directed by Shane Black (Iron Man 3, Lethal Weapon, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang), who also was in the original Predator.

Shane Black is awesome, so I'm willing to give it a shot.
- JetpackJesus

I'll still see it eventually
Just don't know how "excited" I am for it

Baptiste, larsson and 2018 2nd for Tatar? Decent value for Detroit considering he may end of leaving next year, not sure we lose much other than a lottery ticket if he didn't sign with us. He would look good beside Eichel.
- Sabres1523

I have high hopes for Baptiste

I am going to stand by the notion that if you cause something to happen that directly leads to the death of another person, then you have killed that person. I apply this equally to real human beings and fictional ones. So if I light a building on fire and it causes explosions that kill people and causes the roof to collapse on someone inside it, I have killed those people.

In the current comics, where the "No Killing" notion comes from, Batman won't ever be causing something to happen that results in the death of another. So now you're already letting the ultimate rule about Batman slide to excuse the Nolan movies.

I do agree that the Bat-kills in the Nolan movies are not the same as what we see in BvS. But he's not far off from the way he murdered people in the Burton movies.

Again, I just find the strong reaction a lot of people have to the killing in BvS to be interesting because chances are extremely high that their favorite Batman movie featured Batman killing people.

Now, I don't think people are wrong to dislike the way he was portrayed killing people in BvS. BUT, if you're a fan of any Batman movie that isn't B&R or '66, then I think it's disingenuous to say you don't like the killing in BvS because "Batman never kills."
- JetpackJesus

Well said