Scabeh
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
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That Babcock blows fella seems to be on to something...
No wait...
I meant he seems to be ON something.
My mistake.  |
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fansince72
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON
Joined: 04.21.2014
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I just think if those two were going to be good they would have already seen some icetime with the Leafs.. we've seen a bunch of other jabronis get called up tho..
- Arctic_AARDVARK
I thought Neilson sould of made it out of camp last year. His Ahl numbers turned out to be pretty decent:
Toronto Marlies AHL 74 14 25 39 +7
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W_1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 06.10.2017
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I thought Neilson sould of made it out of camp last year. His Ahl numbers turned out to be pretty decent:
Toronto Marlies AHL 74 14 25 39 +7
- fansince72
He's got a big shot, size and speed, I guess the coaching staff doesn't like his decision making ability? |
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- Matthews_Auston
Really? It didnt seem so obvious when my team was terrible for a decade and the trolls all figured we should be automatically be a playoff team after i toducing 18 yr old kids onto a horrible team for 3 straight years.
Like an 18,19 and 20 year old and a bunch of poopty AHL players is a recipe for success.
There is no real recipe that doesnt include a few cups of luck. |
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W_1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 06.10.2017
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Really? It didnt seem so obvious when my team was terrible for a decade and the trolls all figured we should be automatically be a playoff team after i toducing 18 yr old kids onto a horrible team for 3 straight years.
Like an 18,19 and 20 year old and a bunch of poopty AHL players is a recipe for success.
There is no real recipe that doesnt include a few cups of luck.
- Larsson_fan
The Oil are PRIME example of how luck alone does not work, but luck combined with other solid decisions does work. You guys have been lucky twice 
Better work this time! I'm looking forward to a few all Canadian finals between our two teams. |
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The Oil are PRIME example of how luck alone does not work, but luck combined with other solid decisions does work. You guys have been lucky twice
Better work this time!
- W_1
Yes, luck combined with solid preparation and smart decisions.
Tanking team never can rely on quality free agents arriving like the Calvalry, so things will always take time.
My 3 biggest criticisms of the Oilers rebuild were:
A) Started this thing without anyBlue CHip D men in the pipeline.
2.Failed to maximize return for the few quality players we had. (Seriously....Souray,Visnovsky,Horcoff,Hemsky,Penner and Gagne flipped has resulted in exactly 1 Oscar Klefbom).
3.Drafting was Dog poop.
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W_1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 06.10.2017
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Yes, luck combined with solid preparation and smart decisions.
Tanking team never can rely on quality free agents arriving like the Calvalry, so things will always take time.
My 3 biggest criticisms of the Oilers rebuild were:
A) Started this thing without anyBlue CHip D men in the pipeline.
2.Failed to maximize return for the few quality players we had. (Seriously....Souray,Visnovsky,Horcoff,Hemsky,Penner and Gagne flipped has resulted in exactly 1 Oscar Klefbom).
3.Drafting was Dog poop.
- Larsson_fan
Yup.
Leafs built a good management team first, then drafted well, then got lucky with Matthews. Very favorable timeline.
We still need D depth, but we do have some coming in the form of prospects. A smart trade or two will keep the on-ice product progressing while the farm ripens. Honestly, we don't deserve any success if we screw it up from here. |
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Yup.
Leafs built a good management team first, then drafted well, then got lucky with Matthews. Very favorable timeline.
We still need D depth, but we do have some coming in the form of prospects. A smart trade or two will keep the on-ice product progressing while the farm ripens. Honestly, we don't deserve any success if we screw it up from here.
- W_1
Your rebuild is working because you made good use of some horrible years, and here you are with a mature and useful Kadri,Gardiner,JVR and Rielly....without them, Mathews,Willy Ny and Mitch in front off useless old farts would not have the success.
Its a big part of it anway. |
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W_1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 06.10.2017
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Your rebuild is working because you made good use of some horrible years, and here you are with a mature and useful Kadri,Gardiner,JVR and Rielly....without them, Mathews,Willy Ny and Mitch in front off useless old farts would not have the success.
- Larsson_fan
Yes, and good management brought good coaching, and good coaching gave those players a platform to become better. Every one of those players has improved by leaps and bounds since the arrival of Babcock (which includes quality assistants, training, and development staff). |
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Yes, and good management brought good coaching, and good coaching gave those players a platform to become better. Every one of those players has improved by leaps and bounds since the arrival of Babcock.
- W_1
Sorry, I didnt mean to imply it was the only reason. Leafs did plenty right last couple years |
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W_1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 06.10.2017
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Sorry, I didnt mean to imply it was the only reason. Leafs did plenty right last couple years
- Larsson_fan
Is signing Draisaitl to a big contract part of your success or failure? What's the general consensus by fans? |
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011
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Is signing Draisaitl to a big contract part of your success or failure? What's the general consensus by fans?
- W_1
I think that they have to get Drai locked up as soon as possible, for as long as possible. That said, anything over about $7.5m x 8 could be problematic, purely as he's yet to show that he can drive a line by himself (though he has the ability).
If the Oilers can get one line with McJesus rolling alongside a second line with Drai, then they could start to be REALLY dangerous... |
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011
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I'll take Andersen at 5 over Price at 10.5
- Steven_Seagull
There's no question that Price is better, but at double the cost? Heck, at the moment we have Andersen and JvR for less than Price. (I could have also said Andersen and Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Brown... but that kinda misses the point )
EDIT: I also loves how he compares their captain to our rookie fourth liner  |
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011
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I notice he didn't do comparisons for Matthews, Nylander, Kadri, Rielly... ....
- Zezel
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011
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And Drouin over Marner....yeah no
- Zezel
Drouin is excellent.
Marner is better. |
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Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011
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Drouin is excellent.
Marner is better.
- lumlums
Pretty much.
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011
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Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
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I notice he didn't do comparisons for Matthews, Nylander, Kadri, Rielly... ....
- Zezel
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Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006
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And Drouin over Marner....yeah no
- Zezel
It's craziness |
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There's no question that Price is better, but at double the cost? Heck, at the moment we have Andersen and JvR for less than Price. (I could have also said Andersen and Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Brown... but that kinda misses the point )
EDIT: I also loves how he compares their captain to our rookie fourth liner
- lumlums
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