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arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 14 @ 2:29 PM ET
This is a PSA:

Sports hernia surgeries are low risk, low concern surgeries. Teens can get these repaired and be out there in a few months at 100%. Hell, BiggE could get one done and be fine in a few weeks. Sports hernias are not a big deal.

I repeat: sports hernias are not a big deal.

Say it with me!

- Giroux_Is_God


Sports hernias are not a big deal. Did I do it right?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 14 @ 2:50 PM ET
This is a PSA:

Sports hernia surgeries are low risk, low concern surgeries. Teens can get these repaired and be out there in a few months at 100%. Hell, BiggE could get one done and be fine in a few weeks. Sports hernias are not a big deal.

I repeat: sports hernias are not a big deal.

Say it with me!

- Giroux_Is_God

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 14 @ 2:51 PM ET
Wait...BiggE is in better shape than teens?
- Scoob

I'm a guitar playing , scotch drinking machine!
Girouxsalem90
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Upstate, NY
Joined: 05.28.2013

Jul 14 @ 2:54 PM ET
19 points last year and a steady decline for how many years in a row now? he has shown no inclination to rebound. none.

such an asset he wasn't moved last year. teams are lining up for the matt reads of the world.

- rinaldo

Rinaldo got a 3rd rounder, Paul Guastad got a 1st, you never know what teams will be looking for, who will be available, and which GMs are desperate for depth. Could see Read fetching a 3rd or more if he has 25 points by the deadline.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 14 @ 3:12 PM ET
It's a sad thought when Michael Raffl is our best natural LW on the team.
- SuperSchennBros


Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 14 @ 3:15 PM ET
He missed practically the entire year last year. And is coming off a difficult surgery which takes a while to get back up to speed with (no pun intended).

I don't know what the plans are yet. I'm sure the team is taking it one day at a time. But if he's not progressing as quickly as they feel he should, and they won't know until he's back on the ice participating in contact drills, All I'm saying is that I wouldn't be surprised to see him sent back.

Why make your most valued pick struggle at 70% against much stronger men when you can let him progress more evenly back in Brandon?

- 77rams


No chance at all that they will send him back to Brandon and monitor him from afar.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 14 @ 3:24 PM ET
In the words of my girlfriend's mother (world class google doctor) - any kind of surgery that requires sedation is a death sentence.

77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 14 @ 3:25 PM ET
No chance at all that they will send him back to Brandon and monitor him from afar.
- Feanor


Why not? The docs in Manitoba seem to be top notch.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 14 @ 3:27 PM ET
Why not? The docs in Manitoba seem to be top notch.
- 77rams


I can testify
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Jul 14 @ 3:38 PM ET
In the words of my girlfriend's mother (world class google doctor) - any kind of surgery that requires sedation is a death sentence.


- flyer_nutter


Definition of minor surgery: A surgery to someone else.
If you are cutting on me it's a big deal!
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Jul 14 @ 3:49 PM ET
Chiming in on Read and Rafl. I have wanting Rack in particular to be anchoring the 4th ljne, either at LW or center.. He drives possesion, good defensively and can score a bit. He and Read should be fighting for a spot. Those two guys with Laughton make a pretty good 4th line. But there are other guys battling, Veccs, Lehtera, Weiss.

Top 9
Weal, G, Jake
Lindblom, Coots, TK
Val, Patrick, Simmer
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 14 @ 4:19 PM ET
Definition of minor surgery: A surgery to someone else.
If you are cutting on me it's a big deal!

- jaws1955


I had a family member yesterday ask me to "review the X-rays from the last few years to see if the pneumonia is always in the same spot".

What the (frank).
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Jul 14 @ 4:20 PM ET
Thing is i think they would almost need to move 2 guys to make space for Leier.

If things go how i hope then I see these players in the top 9:
Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Couturier, Weal, Konecny, Patrick, Filpulla, Lindblom.

That leaves:
Read, Raffl, Vecchione, Lehtara, Laughton battling for a 4th line role possibly.

And that is without Leier.

Just a tough numbers game right now for him.

- J35Bacher
get rid of the two guys who's last name starts with R maybe or 2 that start with L or a combination of the two?
SimmerDown17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: It aint my fault, SimmerDown aint my alt, CA
Joined: 06.26.2014

Jul 14 @ 4:25 PM ET
Need to look at that 11 points properly. All of Raffl's points came in 5 on 5 play. He doesn't play on the PP. Raffl only played 52 games. Simmonds had 20 5 on 5 points in 82 games. Giroux had 18 in 82 games. Brayden Schenn had 21 in 79 games.
- MJL


Thanks for the laugh. 11 points isn't good at even strength either. The entire team was garbage at even strength so it's not really a good comparison. Raffl is giving fourth line production and he should stay there.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 14 @ 4:32 PM ET
Thanks for the laugh. 11 points isn't good at even strength either. The entire team was garbage at even strength
- SimmerDown17


Not quite the entire team.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Jul 14 @ 4:33 PM ET
Thanks for the laugh. 11 points isn't good at even strength either. The entire team was garbage at even strength so it's not really a good comparison. Raffl is giving fourth line production and he should stay there.
- SimmerDown17
I recall two of Raffl's goals were pretty sweet power moves.
I thought, wow if that guy can do that more often he'd be a boon for the O...unfortunately I recall only the 2 then he disappeared, hurt et al...
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jul 14 @ 4:46 PM ET
Chiming in on Read and Rafl. I have wanting Rack in particular to be anchoring the 4th ljne, either at LW or center.. He drives possesion, good defensively and can score a bit. He and Read should be fighting for a spot. Those two guys with Laughton make a pretty good 4th line. But there are other guys battling, Veccs, Lehtera, Weiss.

Top 9
Weal, G, Jake
Lindblom, Coots, TK
Val, Patrick, Simmer

- jaws1955

I think many of you are not giving Lehtera a fair look. He is over paid but is a threat to win that 4C position
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 14 @ 4:57 PM ET
I think many of you are not giving Lehtera a fair look. He is over paid but is a threat to win that 4C position
- peesinwind


He is, but he's also more of an offensive playmaker than a defensive stopper so it would be a total departure in approach from last year's 4th line.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jul 14 @ 5:08 PM ET
He is, but he's also more of an offensive playmaker than a defensive stopper so it would be a total departure in approach from last year's 4th line.
- Feanor

I read somewhere when they made the trade that he was very defensively responsible. Now I only know what I read on him so I could be wrong. Anybody had eyes on him?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 14 @ 5:12 PM ET
When keeping it Weal goes too far in Bucks County
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 14 @ 5:31 PM ET
I think many of you are not giving Lehtera a fair look. He is over paid but is a threat to win that 4C position
- peesinwind

I know basically nothing about him.

Blues fans basically said he's slow and soft. Last thing this club needs is less speed.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 14 @ 5:52 PM ET
Thanks for the laugh. 11 points isn't good at even strength either. The entire team was garbage at even strength so it's not really a good comparison. Raffl is giving fourth line production and he should stay there.
- SimmerDown17


The laugh is actually best reserved for the comment you made because you were obviously looking at Raffl's point total on the whole for the entire season rather than putting it in the proper perspective of looking at in terms of usage, games played, and relative to his teammates.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 14 @ 5:53 PM ET
I recall two of Raffl's goals were pretty sweet power moves.
I thought, wow if that guy can do that more often he'd be a boon for the O...unfortunately I recall only the 2 then he disappeared, hurt et al...

- Konalover

Jody Shelly had a game where he scored 2 goals once... then we signed him
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 14 @ 5:56 PM ET
I had a family member yesterday ask me to "review the X-rays from the last few years to see if the pneumonia is always in the same spot".

What the (frank).

- flyer_nutter

what is this mucormycosis?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 14 @ 6:27 PM ET
I'm a guitar playing , scotch drinking machine!
- BiggE


shocker
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