Victoro311
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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.05 per blocked shot is weighted too much for you? - Feds91Stammer
If you block five shots you're half way to a secondary assist, and I don't think that's proportional.
To me, it blends too many unrelated stats that don't have one thing to do with each other. Models are supposed to simplify to ease consumption, by I think game score oversimplifies. I'd rather look at the statistics individually and combine them myself through the interpretation process. In general not a fan of stats where the interpretation is done for you and spits out an all purpose score. |
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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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If you block five shots you're half way to a secondary assist, and I don't think that's proportional.
To me, it blends too many unrelated stats that don't have one thing to do with each other. Models are supposed to simplify to ease consumption, by I think game score oversimplifies. I'd rather look at the statistics individually and combine them myself through the interpretation process. In general not a fan of stats where the interpretation is done for you and spits out an all purpose score. - Victoro311
10 blocked shots being equal to a secondary assist doesn't seem THAT outrageous too me. |
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Feds91Stammer
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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If you block five shots you're half way to a secondary assist, and I don't think that's proportional.
To me, it blends too many unrelated stats that don't have one thing to do with each other. Models are supposed to simplify to ease consumption, by I think game score oversimplifies. I'd rather look at the statistics individually and combine them myself through the interpretation process. In general not a fan of stats where the interpretation is done for you and spits out an all purpose score. - Victoro311
You realize a blocked shot is also counting as a CA which is -.05 right? So it is really only valuing non 5v5 shot blocks. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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10 blocked shots being equal to a secondary assist doesn't seem THAT outrageous too me. - BINGO!
Russell blocked a lot of shots and still ends up 3rd pair by GS in last update. Dekeyser does the same and is replacement level. 5v5 CA negates it for the most part. |
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668710
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA Joined: 06.25.2011
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Actually it was probably Eberle,not RNH,hence trading him for McDavids best buddy's older brother... - 2centz
Oh..I thought we were all just sputtering nonsense |
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Conse
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Rio de Janeiro Joined: 11.27.2013
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This blog is great during the offseason.
People suggesting we trade kessel for picks (very important for contenders it looks like) and then sign brian gionta.
What is life |
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668710
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA Joined: 06.25.2011
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This blog is great during the offseason.
People suggesting we trade kessel for picks (very important for contenders it looks like) and then sign brian gionta.
What is life - Conse
Yea that's a complete joke
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Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Aliquippa, PA Joined: 11.11.2014
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This blog is great during the offseason.
People suggesting we trade kessel for picks (very important for contenders it looks like) and then sign brian gionta.
What is life - Conse
That guy wasn't actually a Pens fan. |
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Chukkles
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Scotch Plains, NJ Joined: 07.18.2015
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What about signing someone like Brandon Pirri? He is only 26yrs old, can play center or wing, would probably only cost the Pens $750K - $800K on a one year prove it deal. Below are his stats from last year with the NYR.
GP G A P +/- PIM FO FW FL FO% TOI/game
60 8 10 18 -8 25 243 140 103 57.6% 12:17
Looks like a decent option with some potential... last 4 yrs he has averaged 14 goals a year.
Bonino only averaged 16 goals a year in same span.
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668710
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA Joined: 06.25.2011
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What about signing someone like Brandon Pirri? He is only 26yrs old, can play center or wing, would probably only cost the Pens $750K - $800K on a one year prove it deal. Below are his stats from last year with the NYR.
GP G A P +/- PIM FO FW FL FO% TOI/game
60 8 10 18 -8 25 243 140 103 57.6% 12:17
Looks like a decent option with some potential... last 4 yrs he has averaged 14 goals a year.
Bonino only averaged 16 goals a year in same span.
- Chukkles
I believe Ruth said he's staying away from the free agents that are left. How much center did he actually play? |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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If Kessel slows down he can be bought out after 2 more seasons with the next round of compliance buyouts from the next lockout
easy fix |
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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If Kessel slows down he can be bought out after 2 more seasons with the next round of compliance buyouts from the next lockout
easy fix - PensWin87
lol this is true |
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mikey55
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Butler, PA Joined: 03.10.2015
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Joe Thornton is way over valued. Keep the beard and give me a hockey player any day. Good luck SJ. |
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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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Off topic but this thread is pretty dead anyways:
How far out do you guys think New Jersey is from being relavent in the Met? Assuming Nico pans out, they seem to have all the hardest parts to acquire. It'll be interesting to see if they can acquire a legit #1 D man somehow. Shattenkirk would have been huge for them. |
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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 12.21.2006
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Off topic but this thread is pretty dead anyways:
How far out do you guys think New Jersey is from being relavent in the Met? Assuming Nico pans out, they seem to have all the hardest parts to acquire. It'll be interesting to see if they can acquire a legit #1 D man somehow. Shattenkirk would have been huge for them. - Victoro311
Shero is killing his trades. I don't know how he's drafting, but they seem pretty bare on defense. Somehow I see DP ending up with the Devils after he officially flames out with the Pens this year.
I can't believe Washington virtually gave away Johansson in the division like they did. I kind of wonder if the Leafs would even deal us Bozak considering they will be contenders this year. |
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Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Sydney Joined: 08.02.2014
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Off topic but this thread is pretty dead anyways:
How far out do you guys think New Jersey is from being relavent in the Met? Assuming Nico pans out, they seem to have all the hardest parts to acquire. It'll be interesting to see if they can acquire a legit #1 D man somehow. Shattenkirk would have been huge for them. - Victoro311
Without a Sid or Connor, they need a few years of winning before they can become a contender. Winning is an attitude & so is losing. When an organisation loses so much it becomes engrained. They need to play a solid team with few changes for a year or 2 before confidence grows in the group & they can pull games out of the fire. Hall needs that especially, he's been playing in a losing team his whole career.
Leafs have turned it around due to having so many young studs getting it together, Devils don't have that either. |
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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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Without a Sid or Connor, they need a few years of winning before they can become a contender. Winning is an attitude & so is losing. When an organisation loses so much it becomes engrained. They need to play a solid team with few changes for a year or 2 before confidence grows in the group & they can pull games out of the fire. Hall needs that especially, he's been playing in a losing team his whole career.
Leafs have turned it around due to having so many young studs getting it together, Devils don't have that either. - Aussiepenguin
As a Sixers fan I'm philosophically and morally obligated to call this argument stupid. |
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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Without a Sid or Connor, they need a few years of winning before they can become a contender. Winning is an attitude & so is losing. When an organisation loses so much it becomes engrained. They need to play a solid team with few changes for a year or 2 before confidence grows in the group & they can pull games out of the fire. Hall needs that especially, he's been playing in a losing team his whole career.
Leafs have turned it around due to having so many young studs getting it together, Devils don't have that either. - Aussiepenguin
This is dumb. |
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Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Chatham , ON Joined: 06.22.2014
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Would anyone be opposed to signing Jiri Hudler? He's played center in the past and could be super cheap. Low Risk, high reward kinda signing. If he sucks, just scratch him. Probably can get him under 2mil. - j.boyd919
Yes gay boyd what this team needs desperately is a RW. Especially a washed up old RW who can block ZAR and Reeves and Kuhnhackle and Archibald. Because we should really spend our limited cap space on the position the organization is most deep at. If only ideas weren't so beneath your ego. |
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Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Chatham , ON Joined: 06.22.2014
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I've never liked Anisimov. Always looked like an unimpressive skill center who wasn't good enough to play a top 6 skill role (Sutter anyone?). He seemed to be doing well in Chicago though, so maybe I read this one wrong. Then again, he was on a dynamite line with Kane and Panarin. - Victoro311
William Karlson from Vegas is the exact same player Anisimov is and much cheaper to acquire and much cheaper contract. We can do better than helping the Blackhawks with their cap issues. |
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Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Chatham , ON Joined: 06.22.2014
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What about signing someone like Brandon Pirri? He is only 26yrs old, can play center or wing, would probably only cost the Pens $750K - $800K on a one year prove it deal. Below are his stats from last year with the NYR.
GP G A P +/- PIM FO FW FL FO% TOI/game
60 8 10 18 -8 25 243 140 103 57.6% 12:17
Looks like a decent option with some potential... last 4 yrs he has averaged 14 goals a year.
Bonino only averaged 16 goals a year in same span.
- Chukkles
I am on board with this as long as his contract does not exceed 1 mill. On the right team he's a 20 goal scorer. Paired with say Rust and Kessel he's closer to 30 goals easy. |
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Off topic but this thread is pretty dead anyways:
How far out do you guys think New Jersey is from being relavent in the Met? Assuming Nico pans out, they seem to have all the hardest parts to acquire. It'll be interesting to see if they can acquire a legit #1 D man somehow. Shattenkirk would have been huge for them. - Victoro311
Yeah, they have a weird roster. They are assembling some good forwards and their goalie is a stud, but wow is that defense bad and they have so few NHL-ready players in general (not sure what their strategy is there). I don't think they have enough defensive help in their system that is close with the exception of Santini, so I think that will weigh them down for at least a couple of years, probably more like four.
I think quality defensemen are pretty hard to acquire. I don't think I would have taken on Shattenkirk unless it was for the same sweetheart deal the Rags got, then pretty much every team not named Nashville should have taken that deal. They don't have many "bad" contracts except for Zajac's and maybe Greene's and they are stuck with those for the next four and three years respectively. They actually have a lot of good contracts, so that should help them going forward, should they decide to spend up to the cap.
Marcus Johansson for Olli Maatta straight up, yes or no? |
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Dcoms
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Location: Chatham , ON Joined: 06.22.2014
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Off topic but this thread is pretty dead anyways:
How far out do you guys think New Jersey is from being relavent in the Met? Assuming Nico pans out, they seem to have all the hardest parts to acquire. It'll be interesting to see if they can acquire a legit #1 D man somehow. Shattenkirk would have been huge for them. - Victoro311
Jersey still has grown leaps and bounds over last year. They may not do much this year but they are going to be a good team in 2-4 years. They are building the right way and are stealing the right players on waivers. They will be a force to reackon with by 2020
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Aussiepenguin
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Location: Sydney Joined: 08.02.2014
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As a Sixers fan I'm philosophically and morally obligated to call this argument stupid. - Victoro311
I don't follow basketball, is your team 1 that is in a losing rut? Weren't they top of the tree about 25 years ago??
Whether people admit it or not, losing is as much a habit as winning is. Teams find a way to win games as much as teams lose games they should win.
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory - something that is well know here, not sure about your way. Winning teams aren't usually associated with that term. |
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