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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 14 @ 1:20 PM ET
I think trading Phil talk is absurd but just to add in....doesnt he have the same strict no trade list? What teams would he go to? What would we trade him for?

Doesnt make a ton of sense....

- YouMeAndDupuis9


It makes ZERO sense.

"Hey we need a winger for Sid and Geno so they don't have to carry the team."

*Pens acquire Kessel, win 2 cups back to back with him being a top 3 contributor in points in BOTH seasons and playoffs.*

"(frank), we need to trade Kessel to replace a 3C or maybe a top 4 D."

Get the (frank) out of here. Bunch of morons.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jul 14 @ 1:24 PM ET
Had a +24 goal differential at 5v5 with Malkin this season. You're wrong.

Pens aren't thin at LW with Guentzel and Rust capable of LW, Sheary, Hagelin, Scott Wilson.

They aren't thin at D either with Letang, Schultz, Dumo, Maatta, Cole, Hunwick. Their D-corp is coming into the season better than it was when they raised the cup last year.

They have ONE roster spot that needs filled, and that's 3C. Which isn't that important when you have guys like Sid, Malkin, Kessel putting up 70+ points, Letang and Sheary putting up 45-50+ points, and Schultz and Guentzel putting up 30-40+ points.

Sprong's production is in no way going to replace Kessel's 70 points.

- j.boyd919


The number of times you've mentioned this in the span of one thread is too damn high!
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 14 @ 1:26 PM ET
The number of times you've mentioned this in the span of one thread is too damn high!
- DeflatedPucks


People are dumb!! It's ridiculous.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jul 14 @ 1:27 PM ET
Neither cups happen without Kessel. 100% agree.
- j.boyd919



X3. I don't know where this "trade Kessel" talk started. I know Cook did an opinion piece, but I heard this discussion well before that.

We might not like the last year or two of the Kessel deal, but I'm convinced we'll win at least one more cup with Kessel as a significant contributor.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 14 @ 1:29 PM ET
X3. I don't know where this "trade Kessel" talk started. I know Cook did an opinion piece, but I heard this discussion well before that.

We might not like the last year or two of the Kessel deal, but I'm convinced we'll win at least one more cup with Kessel as a significant contributor.

- madmike71



Easy on the jinxy now...
so_buzz11
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Home, PA
Joined: 05.14.2015

Jul 14 @ 1:33 PM ET
It makes ZERO sense.

"Hey we need a winger for Sid and Geno so they don't have to carry the team."

*Pens acquire Kessel, win 2 cups back to back with him being a top 3 contributor in points in BOTH seasons and playoffs.*

"(frank), we need to trade Kessel to replace a 3C or maybe a top 4 D."

Get the (frank) out of here. Bunch of morons.

- j.boyd919

I agree. Phil is staying, at least for a while.

I keep trying to talk about possible 3C replacements, but I don't get much of a response. I guess everyone likes to argue about stuff that most likely won't happen.

EK is mentioning Anisimov is being shopped around. I don't think we can offer much to CHI for Anisimov, but what does everyone think about him?
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jul 14 @ 1:37 PM ET
Easy on the jinxy now...
- MattStrat


This team has given me reasons to be confident.

Having Sid and Geno doesn't hurt either.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 14 @ 1:45 PM ET
I agree. Phil is staying, at least for a while.

I keep trying to talk about possible 3C replacements, but I don't get much of a response. I guess everyone likes to argue about stuff that most likely won't happen.

EK is mentioning Anisimov is being shopped around. I don't think we can offer much to CHI for Anisimov, but what does everyone think about him?

- so_buzz11




He's not much of an upgrade of Bonino. He put up 45 points riding on Kane and Panarin's coat tails on the 2nd line in Chicago. I'm not sure if he's the kind of guy we would want to be honest.
so_buzz11
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Home, PA
Joined: 05.14.2015

Jul 14 @ 2:04 PM ET


He's not much of an upgrade of Bonino. He put up 45 points riding on Kane and Panarin's coat tails on the 2nd line in Chicago. I'm not sure if he's the kind of guy we would want to be honest.

- j.boyd919

I think he is about $4.5M / yr also & CHI is trying to free up cap space, so I don't think there is much we could trade to them to fit him in without losing something we need. If we just traded for him for just picks and/or prospects that would leave the Pens nearly without much cap room after siging our RFA's.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 14 @ 2:10 PM ET
Would anyone be opposed to signing Jiri Hudler? He's played center in the past and could be super cheap. Low Risk, high reward kinda signing. If he sucks, just scratch him. Probably can get him under 2mil.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jul 14 @ 2:15 PM ET
Would anyone be opposed to signing Jiri Hudler? He's played center in the past and could be super cheap. Low Risk, high reward kinda signing. If he sucks, just scratch him. Probably can get him under 2mil.
- j.boyd919


But as we've seen with our good friend Hainsey, that might be the last thing Mike Sullivan will chose to do
pensfan024
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: somewhere in, VA
Joined: 09.25.2012

Jul 14 @ 2:15 PM ET
I see him aging much more optimistically than Gunner. While Phat Phil's goal scoring won't be increasing anytime soon, I am a big believer in his underrated passing. I really do think he will still be effective going forward throughout the remainder of his contract. 50-60 is what I expect.

Neither cups happen without Phat Phil. 81% Agree!

- DeflatedPucks




i see what you did there
pensfan024
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: somewhere in, VA
Joined: 09.25.2012

Jul 14 @ 2:23 PM ET
http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/penguins/2017/06/13/Phil-Kessel-Evgeni-Malkin-friendship-Penguins-Stanley-Cup/stories/201706130119
- IronCity



yeah it totally looks like they hate each other and phil should be traded
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 14 @ 2:40 PM ET
yeah it totally looks like they hate each other and phil should be traded
- pensfan024


I don't think Malkin hates anyone.
pensfan024
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: somewhere in, VA
Joined: 09.25.2012

Jul 14 @ 3:01 PM ET
I don't think Malkin hates anyone.
- j.boyd919



sorry i forgot to use the sarcasm font

mont23
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 14 @ 3:02 PM ET
I don't think Malkin hates anyone.
- j.boyd919


Be he does hate not being THE guy. Off to Chicago
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 14 @ 3:05 PM ET
sorry i forgot to use the sarcasm font


- pensfan024


Oh I knew you weren't serious hahaha
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 14 @ 3:07 PM ET
https://sports.yahoo.com/..._src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw


GMJR SHUTTING SH!T DOWN.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 14 @ 3:10 PM ET
Dom studying star power...

http://www.thehockeynews....es-it-take-to-win-the-cup
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jul 14 @ 3:44 PM ET
Dom studying star power...

http://www.thehockeynews....es-it-take-to-win-the-cup

- j.boyd919


Patric Horny be like "I agree" with the results
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 14 @ 3:54 PM ET
I agree. Phil is staying, at least for a while.

I keep trying to talk about possible 3C replacements, but I don't get much of a response. I guess everyone likes to argue about stuff that most likely won't happen.

EK is mentioning Anisimov is being shopped around. I don't think we can offer much to CHI for Anisimov, but what does everyone think about him?

- so_buzz11

I've never liked Anisimov. Always looked like an unimpressive skill center who wasn't good enough to play a top 6 skill role (Sutter anyone?). He seemed to be doing well in Chicago though, so maybe I read this one wrong. Then again, he was on a dynamite line with Kane and Panarin.
2centz
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 08.04.2015

Jul 14 @ 3:58 PM ET
Rumour has it Mcdavid has a big problem with RNH. Must be a RNH problem and only a RNH problem
- 668710


Actually it was probably Eberle,not RNH,hence trading him for McDavids best buddy's older brother...
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 14 @ 4:05 PM ET
Dom studying star power...

http://www.thehockeynews....es-it-take-to-win-the-cup

- j.boyd919

I still don't like game score. Blocked shots are way too weighted.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 14 @ 4:06 PM ET
Would anyone be opposed to signing Jiri Hudler? He's played center in the past and could be super cheap. Low Risk, high reward kinda signing. If he sucks, just scratch him. Probably can get him under 2mil.
- j.boyd919

He is not a center.

262 career faceoffs per:

http://puckbase.com/player/jiri-hudler
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 14 @ 4:07 PM ET
I still don't like game score. Blocked shots are way too weighted.
- Victoro311

.05 per blocked shot is weighted too much for you?
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