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Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 18 @ 3:37 PM ET
You guys sound like Snow. You have to reach down and grab your balls and get the piece you need and its gonna take a good prospect/player to get it.

I mean this guy in the one article says, "maybe" JT and Barzal = Crosby and Malkin, for phucks sake the kid played how many NHL games? you think JT gives a shat what Barzal can be or you think he rather have a true 2nd line center behind him in the line up right phucking now?

I rather be balls against the cap and address the needs of this team and have a true chance to win the Cup with proven players versus if this guy play well and this guy developed into a true blah blah blah BS.

- nyisles7

Good and when we trade guys for him and duchene walks in two years and the team is worse off you'll be happy then? We all have our own opinions, yours is not fact because you say it
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 18 @ 3:40 PM ET
Fixed


Man, you are dating yourself with references to Greenwich Village.

- JohnScammo


Here's a beauty of IHM when he lived in Greenwich Village years ago.

ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 18 @ 3:40 PM ET
You guys sound like Snow. You have to reach down and grab your balls and get the piece you need and its gonna take a good prospect/player to get it.

I mean this guy in the one article says, "maybe" JT and Barzal = Crosby and Malkin, for phucks sake the kid played how many NHL games? you think JT gives a shat what Barzal can be or you think he rather have a true 2nd line center behind him in the line up right phucking now?

I rather be balls against the cap and address the needs of this team and have a true chance to win the Cup with proven players versus if this guy play well and this guy developed into a true blah blah blah BS.

- nyisles7


In a Cap world, guys like Barzal are valuable. It's very risky moving him for a guy that can walk in two years. I was willing to move Barzal for Drouin. JT is unsigned now and again Duchene can walk even if they trade for him. I get being careful about moving Barzal. See is the Avs will take Beau instead.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 18 @ 3:41 PM ET
Some of us have better things to do. I for one have to go feed my pet gila monster(google it) some scorpions.
- Isleshockeyman


You have my beat hockeyman. I cannot compete with feeding a gila monster.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 18 @ 3:42 PM ET
Good and when we trade guys for him and duchene walks in two years and the team is worse off you'll be happy then? We all have our own opinions, yours is not fact because you say it
- Upstate_isles


Win a cup it takes care of all the other BS.

It can't be worse off than the last 10 years can it?

If I say something its wrong on here until its right. Get it straight !
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 18 @ 3:44 PM ET
You guys sound like Snow. You have to reach down and grab your balls and get the piece you need and its gonna take a good prospect/player to get it.

I mean this guy in the one article says, "maybe" JT and Barzal = Crosby and Malkin, for phucks sake the kid played how many NHL games? you think JT gives a shat what Barzal can be or you think he rather have a true 2nd line center behind him in the line up right phucking now?

I rather be balls against the cap and address the needs of this team and have a true chance to win the Cup with proven players versus if this guy play well and this guy developed into a true blah blah blah BS.

- nyisles7


This team needs more than one piece. Col. wants/needs D-men. Barzal and a package of forwards/picks isn't getting it done. Who else you giving up? Pulock? deHaan? My guess is that Snow had Hamonic in a package for Duch & Sakic wanted more than what was offered. (frank) Sakic. Not overpaying for Duch was a smart good move by Snow. Besides, once Sakic realizes he's painted himself into a corner, the price fro Duch will drop significantly. Nothing says he won't be traded by the deadline.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 18 @ 3:44 PM ET
I hate to say I agree with Gaines on this but
Eberle will be way better than strome and that 1st line will score a lot
pulock will score more than hamonic
Pulock and eberle make the pp way better
jhs only 20 games but .5 per game and could have had more. I personally believe he will be a Calder finalist
Barzal will prove he belongs in the nhl but may start season in ahl

This roster isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be and they have a great tandem in net but they need to split games
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 18 @ 3:46 PM ET
Here's a beauty of IHM when he lived in Greenwich Village years ago.


- nyisles7


A) stop posting your picture and claiming it's me.
B) Jesus, could you find something with more code?!
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 18 @ 3:47 PM ET
Duchene will walk in 2 years or cost us so much along with jt we won't be able to keep anyone else. He compared the benefits of both and came up with barzal, I agree
- Upstate_isles

The costs of course are beneficial that's a given. The unknown with barzal as an NHL player and whether or not Tavares needs to see more added to the line up is where the grey area is. My point is that has a serious effect on the future of this franchise not trading barzal is not necessarily making a play for the future. In fact it very well may turn out to be much more risky for this franchise.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 18 @ 3:48 PM ET
This team needs more than one piece. Col. wants/needs D-men. Barzal and a package of forwards/picks isn't getting it done. Who else you giving up? Pulock? deHaan? My guess is that Snow had Hamonic in a package for Duch & Sakic wanted more than what was offered. (frank) Sakic. Not overpaying for Duch was a smart good move by Snow. Besides, once Sakic realizes he's painted himself into a corner, the price fro Duch will drop significantly. Nothing says he won't be traded by the deadline.
- Isleshockeyman

ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 18 @ 3:48 PM ET
I hate to say I agree with Gaines on this but
Eberle will be way better than strome and that 1st line will score a lot
pulock will score more than hamonic
Pulock and eberle make the pp way better
jhs only 20 games but .5 per game and could have had more. I personally believe he will be a Calder finalist
Barzal will prove he belongs in the nhl but may start season in ago.

This roster isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be and they have a great tandem in net but they need to split games

- Upstate_isles


I'm a little tired of this idea JT is still not happy with the talent on this team. Maybe when L&M bought the team, he should have let them know it was a good idea to get a new GM and coach in. I rather JT be honest with the owners instead of sulking in silence.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 18 @ 3:48 PM ET
In a Cap world, guys like Barzal are valuable. It's very risky moving him for a guy that can walk in two years. I was willing to move Barzal for Drouin. JT is unsigned now and again Duchene can walk even if they trade for him. I get being careful about moving Barzal. See is the Avs will take Beau instead.
- ses111


So was Strome and Nelson and Sorokin and on and on and on! Im just sick and tired of the look how talented our prospects are. The SC is won with your current (Core) team not what coming or could be on the ice in 1, 2 or 3 years.

Really The Islanders needed Duchene more than Drouin imho. We need help up the middle not on wing. Someone who can win a draw other than JT would be great.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 18 @ 3:49 PM ET
The costs of course are beneficial that's a given. The unknown with barzal as an NHL player and whether or not Tavares needs to see more added to the line up is where the grey area is. My point is that has a serious effect on the future of this franchise not trading barzal is not necessarily making a play for the future. In fact it very well may turn out to be much more risky for this franchise.
- Cptmjl

I agree this is dependent upon jt resigning but if he does and we keep bazral I think it's the correct move. I wants against duchene just what sakic wants for him
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 18 @ 3:50 PM ET
A) stop posting your picture and claiming it's me.
B) Jesus, could you find something with more code?!

- Isleshockeyman





Bored at work today and really nothing going on in the hockey World so....
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 18 @ 3:51 PM ET
So was Strome and Nelson and Sorokin and on and on and on! Im just sick and tired of the look how talented our prospects are. The SC is won with your current (Core) team not what coming or could be on the ice in 1, 2 or 3 years.

Really The Islanders needed Duchene more than Drouin imho. We need help up the middle not on wing. Someone who can win a draw other than JT would be great.

- nyisles7

Maybe Snow should trade for Nielsen then.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 18 @ 3:52 PM ET
I hate to say I agree with Gaines on this but
Eberle will be way better than strome and that 1st line will score a lot
pulock will score more than hamonic
Pulock and eberle make the pp way better
jhs only 20 games but .5 per game and could have had more. I personally believe he will be a Calder finalist
Barzal will prove he belongs in the nhl but may start season in ahl

This roster isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be and they have a great tandem in net but they need to split games

- Upstate_isles



Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 18 @ 3:52 PM ET


Bored at work today and really nothing going on in the hockey World so....

- nyisles7


I hear you. I'm milking the rest of the day. Not much going on. Might take a couple of days off this week it's so slow.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 18 @ 3:53 PM ET
Maybe Snow should trade for Nielsen then.
- Isleshockeyman



Funny you say that I was gonna bring Frans, KO and MM in a post just to get things started up in this female dog!
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 18 @ 3:53 PM ET

- nyisles7

You already are princess
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 18 @ 3:54 PM ET
So was Strome and Nelson and Sorokin and on and on and on! Im just sick and tired of the look how talented our prospects are. The SC is won with your current (Core) team not what coming or could be on the ice in 1, 2 or 3 years.

Really The Islanders needed Duchene more than Drouin imho. We need help up the middle not on wing. Someone who can win a draw other than JT would be great.

- nyisles7


If Cappy was fired years ago these young prospects might have had a better chance. This is my point on JT. Instead of being a good solider, maybe it was better if he went to ownership and gave his real thoughts? I'm just done already with this JT thing and everything dragging out.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jul 18 @ 3:54 PM ET


Can we get that cat to do that to every NHL GM? I love how the rest of you are trying to pretend you are ok with this lousy offseason.

- ses111


No the rest of us understand that the NHL goes into hibernation every summer and don't obsessively complain about it.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 18 @ 3:54 PM ET
I hate to say I agree with Gaines on this but
Eberle will be way better than strome and that 1st line will score a lot
pulock will score more than hamonic
Pulock and eberle make the pp way better
jhs only 20 games but .5 per game and could have had more. I personally believe he will be a Calder finalist
Barzal will prove he belongs in the nhl but may start season in ahl

This roster isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be and they have a great tandem in net but they need to split games

- Upstate_isles

There is a lot of assuming in this post with pretty much all unknowns.

That is exactly one of the issues with Snow. There are no clear cut defining things to base this being a great roster next year. Appreciate your optimism but we haven't seen enough of most of the players you mentioned let alone our coaching staff most of which has little or zero coaching experience. JT clearly agrees or he would have signed already I know some on here have already put their stamp on the only reason he hasn't is because of the arena but I think that's just a whole lot more assuming with nothing to base it on.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jul 18 @ 3:57 PM ET

- nyisles7

You already are princess
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 18 @ 3:57 PM ET

- nyisles7

Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 18 @ 3:58 PM ET
No the rest of us understand that the NHL goes into hibernation every summer and don't obsessively complain about it.
- JimmyP

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