For one who did not want Shatty signed here initially at all due do "his poor defense", & then later, (although rightfully so like many), due to the 7 years extended term, you would want another critical player we need, (though lower NHL ranked overall than a Shatty), signed for 7 years, who suffered a serious leg injury last season as well?
The contact involved in the world's fastest team sport makes any player prone to suffering more easily again that same type, or another similar injury in relation. Should Zib experience this, &/or acquire alone some ongoing related condition later on as a result, would the Rangers have the same "luck" as they did with Klein last week, in being rescued? That's why you cannot offer him a 7 year deal in the likely $4.5M to $5.5M range that the arbitrator would award.
Due to that injury, I would offer him up to $5.5M, but at a shorter deal than even 5 years, taking the chance it may cost them more in the long run. But at least then, they would be much more assured that Zib's health and game would have not at all been hampered by his 2016 serious leg injury. The possible effects that could linger from that injury is also the reason I feel why the 2 parties have not yet been able to agree on a new contract.
- RangerSaver

For the $$ and term (7 years) that were rumored, I wanted nothing to do with a guy that would be playing 6 of those years in his 30's. Zib is a completely different situation that would only be in his 30's for 2 of the 7. Zib looked full you recovered in the playoffs but it did take a while to get back into shape.

This makes a lot of sense to me, Saver. You was a goalie
All skaters knows for a fact that 90%+ of all goalies are nut cases...
- 21peter

Former goalie over here!

For one who did not want Shatty signed here initially at all due do "his poor defense", & then later, (although rightfully so like many), due to the 7 years extended term, you would want another critical player we need, (though lower NHL ranked overall than a Shatty), signed for 7 years, who suffered a serious leg injury last season as well?
The contact involved in the world's fastest team sport makes any player prone to suffering more easily again that same type, or another similar injury in relation. Should Zib experience this, &/or acquire alone some ongoing related condition later on as a result, would the Rangers have the same "luck" as they did with Klein last week, in being rescued? That's why you cannot offer him a 7 year deal in the likely $4.5M to $5.5M range that the arbitrator would award.
Due to that injury, I would offer him up to $5.5M, but at a shorter deal than even 5 years, taking the chance it may cost them more in the long run. But at least then, they would be much more assured that Zib's health and game would have not at all been hampered by his 2016 serious leg injury. The possible effects that could linger from that injury is also the reason I feel why the 2 parties have not yet been able to agree on a new contract.
- RangerSaver

He broke his leg. Bones heal completely given the correct rehab, which you can be sure he got. Actually, they generally heal stronger than they were initially. It's not like he ripped apart a knee or a shoulder. Your argument holds no weight (unlike Zibs leg).

Former goalie over here!
- Tonybere

No doubt you're in the healthy 10%, Tony

No doubt you're in the healthy 10%, Tony
- 21peter

Trust me, he's not. You ever see him on a Tanner blog?

No doubt you're in the healthy 10%, Tony
- 21peter

Literally every goalie in any sport I've met is clinically insane

Trust me, he's not. You ever see him on a Tanner blog?
- mdw7413

I know. Him and rrentz both

Guess most of us needs to do some unhealthy poop to stay sane...

Literally every goalie in any sport I've met is clinically insane
- rangerdanger94

Makes sense somehow though... You just don't volunteer for that poop if you're sane

Literally every goalie in any sport I've met is clinically insane
- rangerdanger94

And what like 25% of the leagues GM's are former goalies?

Literally every goalie in any sport I've met is clinically insane
- rangerdanger94

You've played hockey, RD? And which other sports...?

You've played hockey, RD? And which other sports...?
- 21peter

Only soccer but in college I lived in the Lacrosse/Hockey house and the goalies on both those teams are psycho

Lax goalies especially

#eyecandy

- 21peter

Love those cars.

I had these cars: 1986 Mercury Grand Marquee(auto) 1995 Saturn SL1 manual, 1988 Bronco II (auto) 1994 Saturn SL1 manual.

Still have all of these: 1971 Mustang Mach 1 manual, 2005 RSX (Integra) Type-S manual, 1983 Camaro Z28 manual.

Also have a 1984 Bronco II project that's a stick.

Only soccer but in college I lived in the Lacrosse/Hockey house and the goalies on both those teams are psycho

Lax goalies especially
- rangerdanger94

Lacrosse is huge in Scandinavia

Many hockey players, like myself, played football (refuse to call it soccer) in the summer.
And for sure, football in Norway is nothing like what the clowns do in the Mediterranian countries and in South-America. Football in Scandinavia and in England is a physical sport and those who fall down and whine for everything doesn't last long...

Love those cars.

I had these cars: 1986 Mercury Grand Marquee(auto) 1995 Saturn SL1 manual, 1988 Bronco II (auto) 1994 Saturn SL1 manual.

Still have all of these: 1971 Mustang Mach 1 manual, 2005 RSX (Integra) Type-S manual, 1983 Camaro Z28 manual.

Also have a 1984 Bronco II project that's a stick.
- JRR1285

Would've loved to have a few of those. Specially the Mach 1 and the -84 Bronco.

Lacrosse is huge in Scandinavia

Many hockey players, like myself, played football (refuse to call it soccer) in the summer.
And for sure, football in Norway is nothing like what the clowns do in the Mediterranian countries and in South-America. Football in Scandinavia and in England is a physical sport and those who fall down and whine for everything doesn't last long...
- 21peter

Yea premier league is the best of the European leagues thanks to the players playing and not acting half the time. The one good thing about the MLS is it's a more physical league with not much diving too.

Would've loved to have a few of those. Specially the Mach 1 and the -84 Bronco.
- 21peter

Had a 1980 full size Bronco.
Favorite vehicle I ever owned was a Subaru Brat.
Had an '82 and an '84.

Had a 1980 full size Bronco.
Favorite vehicle I ever owned was a Subaru Brat.
Had an '82 and an '84.
- Fenrir

Was that the one with the two seats in the bed?

Was that the one with the two seats in the bed?
- mdw7413

Yup! My buddy always wanted to ride in the back, so we always dove through the biggest puddle we could find.
Second Brat didn't have the seats.
That thing was a blast to drive. I would buy one if I hit the lottery. Not a Ferrari, a Brat.

Yup! My buddy always wanted to ride in the back, so we always dove through the biggest puddle we could find.
Second Brat didn't have the seats.
That thing was a blast to drive. I would buy one if I hit the lottery. Not a Ferrari, a Brat.
- Fenrir

My friends dad had one. Sitting in the back was awesome. Couldn't remember if that was the brat.

Were you bound & gagged?
- B2B76

All good -- safe back in NYC!

Only Nick, who the F goes to Nicaragua?

I remember when we kicked some Sandinista ass back in the 80s.
- B2B76

My friend from there married his wife from France there. They also live in NYC.

Yeah the Sandinista parade was on Friday and I got stuck in it. They're still celebrating their government for overthrowing the dictatorship.

http://www.espn.com/nhl/s...ngers-washington-capitals

Makes sense somehow though... You just don't volunteer for that poop if you're sane
- 21peter

You may be right! Lol, I gave it up to concentrate on full-contact fighting!!

http://www.espn.com/nhl/s...ngers-washington-capitals
- JRR1285

While I think we can still contend, I don't think we're in the absolute peak of our window right now. But the window isn't closing anymore, it's about to start opening again.

For the $$ and term (7 years) that were rumored, I wanted nothing to do with a guy that would be playing 6 of those years in his 30's. Zib is a completely different situation that would only be in his 30's for 2 of the 7. Zib looked full you recovered in the playoffs but it did take a while to get back into shape
- nyrangers9479

I agree that after taking some time to get back into shape, Zib appeared to have fully recovered from his serious leg injury. But, my point was that due to his type of injury, (or be it any severe ligament, tendon, muscle, etc. internal type one), a player having suffered one becomes more easily prone for another exact re-occurrence or related to type one, in the world's fastest speed contact team sport.
As an example, even a mild foot strain injury, (& not even a sprain), if despite thinking so, is not healed properly, can more easily cause any human being upon a sudden wrong movement, to even tear a calf muscle, since there are nerves in the foot that connect to the lower leg. Imagine what the same would be like for one at an NHL speed and contact force.
In addition, as Jan wrote in his blog, NHL arbitration cases are allowed to take into account "injuries & illnesses" as one deciding factor. That's why I feel the two parties are at odds. I do not think the Rangers have a problem with the $4.5M to $5.5M likely salary range to make a deal prior to Zib's hearing date. It is the number of years' term that's the issue, due to his 2016 severe leg injury.