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mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 12 @ 1:03 PM ET
Also the Canes just signed Jaccob Slavin to extenison, 7 years 37.1 million. If Skjei has another season like he had this past year, do you bridge him or sign him to a comparable contract in context to Slavin?

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/jaccob-slavin

- tomburton99


Gotta go the McDonagh route. Isn't he one of the few that was signed to term and not a bridge?
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 12 @ 1:04 PM ET
I mean to sign Draisaitl to that deal would be like two 1st's, a 2nd and 3rd or four 1st's. Not thrilled with that. However, the Rangers have nobody to replace Kreider and Miller. Day is the Rangers best N.A. prospect. No on all accounts there.
- tomburton99



Yeah, it would be an absolutely crippling decision in any form. Good thing it can't happen and Sather isn't making decisions anymore.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 12 @ 1:05 PM ET
Gotta go the McDonagh route. Isn't he one of the few that was signed to term and not a bridge?
- mdw7413



Agreed.

Also, you need a closed window avatar. I am sick of all the lies.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 12 @ 1:05 PM ET
Gotta go the McDonagh route. Isn't he one of the few that was signed to term and not a bridge?
- mdw7413

It's a risk/reward signing young guys to long-term deals at affordable numbers. If Skjei turns out to be a bonafide good, or better, defenseman and you lock him up next year for 7-8 years at something like $4M or so then that deal becomes an absolute steal.

If he, for some reason (and I'm not expecting him to), totally falls apart then you're stuck with a garbage player on a long-term deal at a moderate price.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 12 @ 1:07 PM ET
It's a risk/reward signing young guys to long-term deals at affordable numbers. If Skjei turns out to be a bonafide good, or better, defenseman and you lock him up next year for 7-8 years at something like $4M or so then that deal becomes an absolute steal.

If he, for some reason (and I'm not expecting him to), totally falls apart then you're stuck with a garbage player on a long-term deal at a moderate price.

- eichiefs9



I hate you so much.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 12 @ 1:07 PM ET
Agreed.

Also, you need a closed window avatar. I am sick of all the lies.

- JRR1285

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 12 @ 1:08 PM ET
It's a risk/reward signing young guys to long-term deals at affordable numbers. If Skjei turns out to be a bonafide good, or better, defenseman and you lock him up next year for 7-8 years at something like $4M or so then that deal becomes an absolute steal.

If he, for some reason (and I'm not expecting him to), totally falls apart then you're stuck with a garbage player on a long-term deal at a moderate price.

- eichiefs9

I think the risk is overstated, because a lot of times you can either a) retain some salary or b) get someone to think maybe he just needs a "change of scenery"

The benefit of having a player locked up through his entire prime at a reasonable cap hit is far greater
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 12 @ 1:08 PM ET
It's a risk/reward signing young guys to long-term deals at affordable numbers. If Skjei turns out to be a bonafide good, or better, defenseman and you lock him up next year for 7-8 years at something like $4M or so then that deal becomes an absolute steal.

If he, for some reason (and I'm not expecting him to), totally falls apart then you're stuck with a garbage player on a long-term deal at a moderate price.

- eichiefs9


Yeah I think Skjei is going to just get better. Don't think there is much risk there.
MiloslavHorava
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 02.12.2016

Jul 12 @ 1:08 PM ET
It's a risk/reward signing young guys to long-term deals at affordable numbers. If Skjei turns out to be a bonafide good, or better, defenseman and you lock him up next year for 7-8 years at something like $4M or so then that deal becomes an absolute steal.

If he, for some reason turns into Rick DiPietro or Alexi Yashin then you're stuck with a garbage player on a long-term deal .

- eichiefs9


Fixed
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 12 @ 1:09 PM ET
Yeah, it would be an absolutely crippling decision in any form. Good thing it can't happen and Sather isn't making decisions anymore.
- JRR1285

Sather never sent an offer sheet to anybody. I will defend him there.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 12 @ 1:10 PM ET
Sather never sent an offer sheet to anybody. I will defend him there.
- tomburton99



That's actually kind of shocking.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 12 @ 1:11 PM ET
Fixed
- MiloslavHorava

mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 12 @ 1:12 PM ET
Sather never sent an offer sheet to anybody. I will defend him there.
- tomburton99


Can we offer sheet YeunglingJagr, and send RD the other way for compensation?
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 12 @ 1:13 PM ET
Can we offer sheet YeunglingJagr, and send RD the other way for compensation?
- mdw7413



Gonna have to sweeten the pot. They get Jihad Tom too.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 12 @ 1:14 PM ET
Gonna have to sweeten the pot. They get Jihad Tom too.
- JRR1285

I ain't never rooting for the Flyers. I will say Old City section of Philly is nice.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 12 @ 1:19 PM ET
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Jul 12 @ 1:25 PM ET
Can we offer sheet YeunglingJagr, and send RD the other way for compensation?
- mdw7413

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 12 @ 1:27 PM ET
I think the risk is overstated, because a lot of times you can either a) retain some salary or b) get someone to think maybe he just needs a "change of scenery"

The benefit of having a player locked up through his entire prime at a reasonable cap hit is far greater

- YuenglingJagr

The truth spoken
Dundee13
New York Rangers
Joined: 08.12.2014

Jul 12 @ 1:32 PM ET
Shey's future aint behind Shatty & Mac
especially with all the top yg D talent bangin on the door ....
If he was our top pair they wouldnt have signed Shatty

NOW : what can we get on the open market for Shey in a deal ..

Kadri -Duchene ..go up & Down the line ups .
.top up & coming centers are hard to find
Draistl? Shey And alot ..Id do it

PoinT is we need up the middle help ... expensive ,cant trust J T to make it
discojaws
New York Rangers
Location: I pick the Islanders to win the Division, President's Trophy and play in the Final -JamesTanner, NY
Joined: 04.18.2012

Jul 12 @ 1:37 PM ET
Shey's future aint behind Shatty & Mac
especially with all the top yg D talent bangin on the door ....
If he was our top pair they wouldnt have signed Shatty

NOW : what can we get on the open market for Shey in a deal ..

Kadri -Duchene ..go up & Down the line ups .
.top up & coming centers are hard to find
Draistl? Shey And alot ..Id do it

PoinT is we need up the middle help ... expensive ,cant trust J T to make it

- Dundee13


You make my brain hurt.. but back on topic..

Kadri? No thanks, & he's slotted as torontos #2 if they trade Bozak so, again, no.
Duchene? Do you have any idea the kings ransom Sakic is asking for? no thanks
Draisaitl? Please..

Let's be realistic here.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 12 @ 1:41 PM ET
You make my brain hurt.. but back on topic..

Kadri? No thanks, & he's slotted as torontos #2 if they trade Bozak so, again, no.
Duchene? Do you have any idea the kings ransom Sakic is asking for? no thanks
Draisaitl? Please..

Let's be realistic here.

- discojaws

This isn't just my guess, but by the time McD contract is up I need 2 years either McD or Skjei won't be here, one will be moved.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 12 @ 1:41 PM ET
You make my brain hurt.. but back on topic..

Kadri? No thanks, & he's slotted as torontos #2 if they trade Bozak so, again, no.
Duchene? Do you have any idea the kings ransom Sakic is asking for? no thanks
Draisaitl? Please..

Let's be realistic here.

- discojaws

Not only that, but Kadri coming off a career year...after Matthews faced the better competition.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 12 @ 1:42 PM ET
This isn't just my guess, but by the time McD contract is up I need 2 years either McD or Skjei won't be here, one will be moved.
- nyrangers9479

Now who's replacing Staal AND Mcdonagh. Day and....

Yeah, that's what I thought.
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Jul 12 @ 1:47 PM ET
Now who's replacing Staal AND Mcdonagh. Day and....

Yeah, that's what I thought.

- tomburton99


Tom you could probably slot in for Staal lets be honest
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jul 12 @ 1:47 PM ET
Shey's future aint behind Shatty & Mac
especially with all the top yg D talent bangin on the door ....
If he was our top pair they wouldnt have signed Shatty

NOW : what can we get on the open market for Shey in a deal ..

Kadri -Duchene ..go up & Down the line ups .
.top up & coming centers are hard to find
Draistl? Shey And alot ..Id do it

PoinT is we need up the middle help ... expensive ,cant trust J T to make it

- Dundee13


Why can't you understand that Left and Right defensive positions are not interchangeable???
Skjei is not going to be our #1 RHD. He may be our #1 LHD, and while Mac is on the contract he is, we could have a very formidable D corp. Or, Mac could be traded, because he is a known commodity on a great contract.
Personally, I'd like to let it ride this year and see what our boys can produce. We have a number of good looking prospects for the first time in quite some time. Don't mortgage the future just to take a run before Hank is gone. I'd love to see him win as much as any, but making big moves in the summer doesn't guarantee anything. Trading away all your good young players guarantees long term misery.
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