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A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
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Jul 12 @ 12:57 PM ET
not unless you are planning next years picnic
- Makita

WhiteLie
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Jul 12 @ 12:57 PM ET
you don't think Gaunce will get 100 points? FLAGGED
- CanuckDon


Given his pace of 6 points per full season, he will need to play more than 16 seasons in his career to hit that number
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jul 12 @ 12:57 PM ET
Running early predictions to chime in:

1)How many prospects (played less then 80 NHL games) will make it out of camp?

2)How many players will be waived after camp?

3)Who and how many trades will JB make by the TDL?

- Nuck4U



Why?

But honestly, why?

I mean this is an above average post for you but why would you waste it on a few nonsequeters like you did?

Im just really confused now.....
WhiteLie
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Jul 12 @ 12:57 PM ET
not unless you are planning next years picnic
- Makita

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 12 @ 1:03 PM ET
Given his pace of 6 points per full season, he will need to play more than 16 seasons in his career to hit that number
- WhiteLie

I covered this a few days ago. I honestly believe Guance can score 2-3 goals this season if he sees significant PP time. Add in a few secondary assists and a primary assist and it's idiotic to think he can't get 7-9 points. Give your head a shake Whitey
Davisonfire
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 06.15.2017

Jul 12 @ 1:14 PM ET
Don't forget Lockwood for USA too.
Davisonfire
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 06.15.2017

Jul 12 @ 1:16 PM ET
Ryan Johnson wasn't a fan favorite, but he was a favorite of the coaching staff. He was considered a great defensive forward and good on killing penalties.
WhiteLie
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Jul 12 @ 1:45 PM ET
I covered this a few days ago. I honestly believe Guance can score 2-3 goals this season if he sees significant PP time. Add in a few secondary assists and a primary assist and it's idiotic to think he can't get 7-9 points. Give your head a shake Whitey
- CanuckDon


I suspect your prediction will be true, only because his games played will increase from last season. The numbers dont lie, Gaunce will have a flat career trajectory, 6 points every 82 games. No prime, no slump, just Gaunce
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 12 @ 1:54 PM ET
hahaha for real? Where can I find those stats??

They really only have a few prospects that look good now that Sergachev is gone. Juulson, Sherbak and Mete and Lehkonen was a big surprise last season.

- Brooks_Light

Someone mentioned it to me last week not sure if it's accurate or not…something like only 6 of their last 60 draft picks have seen the NHL…if that's true that's brutal.
WhiteLie
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Jul 12 @ 2:11 PM ET
Someone mentioned it to me last week not sure if it's accurate or not…something like only 6 of their last 60 draft picks have seen the NHL…if that's true that's brutal.
- LordHumungous


http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00006929.html

7 of their past 25ish picks (not including 2017) have played an NHL game, but not much and not sure how many were actually played with Montreal. They had one hell of a 2007 draft though

FWIW Vancouver's numbers are about the same, 7 of the past 25 picks have been in an NHL game
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00008756.html
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jul 12 @ 2:11 PM ET
I covered this a few days ago. I honestly believe Guance can score 2-3 goals this season if he sees significant PP time. Add in a few secondary assists and a primary assist and it's idiotic to think he can't get 7-9 points. Give your head a shake Whitey
- CanuckDon


Gaunce is an AHL lifer, not good enough defensively to make up for the fact that he produces NOTHING offensively. He well be Europe- bound by the end of the season after the forward depth we acquired this summer/better prospects competing for spots.

Gaunce only ever looked like a good prospect because our prospect pool was awful for a long time. It's time to drop him like Jensen/Shinkaruk.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 12 @ 2:13 PM ET
Gaunce is an AHL lifer, not good enough defensively to make up for the fact that he produces NOTHING offensively. He well be Europe- bound by the end of the season after the forward depth we acquired this summer/better prospects competing for spots.

Gaunce only ever looked like a good prospect because our prospect pool was awful for a long time. It's time to drop him like Jensen/Shinkaruk.

- Crazybagoham


Gaunce can still help Utica but agreed, he likely doesn't have an NHL future.
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jul 12 @ 2:20 PM ET
Gaunce can still help Utica but agreed, he likely doesn't have an NHL future.
- CanuckDon


The fact that he switches from wing to centre every other season probably hasn't helped him much. The only way I see him staying in the league and being effective is to go back to Centre and becoming great at face-offs.

Cole Cassels ( a player that used to really intrigue me) is going down the same route.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 12 @ 2:28 PM ET
The fact that he switches from wing to centre every other season probably hasn't helped him much. The only way I see him staying in the league and being effective is to go back to Centre and becoming great at face-offs.

Cole Cassels ( a player that used to really intrigue me) is going down the same route.

- Crazybagoham

I always knew Cole was a garbage prospect from the first time I saw him play in junior. Slowest player on the ice in junior for (frank)sakes. I don't understand how he ever received hype
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 12 @ 2:41 PM ET
I always knew Cole was a garbage prospect from the first time I saw him play in junior. Slowest player on the ice in junior for (frank)sakes. I don't understand how he ever received hype
- CanuckDon

Last name.
See Subban.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 12 @ 2:44 PM ET
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00006929.html

7 of their past 25ish picks (not including 2017) have played an NHL game, but not much and not sure how many were actually played with Montreal. They had one hell of a 2007 draft though

FWIW Vancouver's numbers are about the same, 7 of the past 25 picks have been in an NHL game
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00008756.html

- WhiteLie

cool…thx for that.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 12 @ 2:54 PM ET
Last name.
See Subban.

- Marwood

Our fanbase isn't very smrt
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 12 @ 3:05 PM ET
Kalamazoo is now our ECHL AFFILIATE.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 12 @ 3:06 PM ET
I covered this a few days ago. I honestly believe Guance can score 2-3 goals this season if he sees significant PP time. Add in a few secondary assists and a primary assist and it's idiotic to think he can't get 7-9 points. Give your head a shake Whitey
- CanuckDon


I'll take the over on that bet.

5 players scored more points than Gaunce who played less minutes per game and only 8 players outscored him who averaged up 30 seconds more ice time per game.

17 players basically outscored Gaunce last year in the NHL while playing similar minutes. Not bad for a rookie who despite not scoring was doing some other good things on the ice.

Like it or not Gaunce is the only player this mgmt has allowed to follow a regular development path so far and while it might not be quick enough for some, this is the usual path for prospects.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 12 @ 3:07 PM ET
Kalamazoo is now our ECHL AFFILIATE.
- Reubenkincade

Don't waste our time. Please provide their 2019 lineup
WhiteLie
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Jul 12 @ 3:08 PM ET
Last name.
See Subban.

- Marwood


I thought it was because he shut down McDavid in the OHL final despite everyone forgetting Cassels was 20 and McDavid was 17
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 12 @ 3:08 PM ET
I'll take the over on that bet.

5 players scored more points than Gaunce who played less minutes per game and only 8 players outscored him who averaged up 30 seconds more ice time per game.

17 players basically outscored Gaunce last year in the NHL while playing similar minutes. Not bad for a rookie who despite not scoring was doing some other good things on the ice.

Like it or not Gaunce is the only player this mgmt has allowed to follow a regular development path so far and while it might not be quick enough for some, this is the usual path for prospects.

- belcherbd


Solid thesis Belcher but let me remind you he couldn't score ONE goal
WhiteLie
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Jul 12 @ 3:16 PM ET
Solid thesis Belcher but let me remind you he couldn't score ONE goal
- CanuckDon


If we were looking at the same lineup as last year, I probably would take the over on 9 points, but with the additions in camp - Gagner, Burmistrov, and I'll count Boeser, Rodin, Molino and even Goldobin in that group since they were barely there last year and he has a lot of bodies to beat out for opportunity.

Even if those guys dont make the team out of camp, I think they get the injury call up and get placed on PP and scoring lines before Gaunce gets a sniff


EDIT: And lets not forget, his ONE career goal bounced in off him. He has never shot a puck in the net during an NHL game
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 12 @ 3:34 PM ET
If we were looking at the same lineup as last year, I probably would take the over on 9 points, but with the additions in camp - Gagner, Burmistrov, and I'll count Boeser, Rodin, Molino and even Goldobin in that group since they were barely there last year and he has a lot of bodies to beat out for opportunity.

Even if those guys dont make the team out of camp, I think they get the injury call up and get placed on PP and scoring lines before Gaunce gets a sniff


EDIT: And lets not forget, his ONE career goal bounced in off him. He has never shot a puck in the net during an NHL game

- WhiteLie


I'm sure I can find some examples of players that went on to have solid careers after only putting up 1 goal in their first 80 games.

I agree with what you are saying about the competition though, Gaunce if he makes the team will not be given offensive opportunities over the names you mentioned. That said Gaunce broke out for Green offensively when he was shifted back to C in UTica when they were devastated with injuries. I think he gets a chance to play with some actual NHL talent rather than Chaput/Skille/Megna and we get a better idea of if he can contribute offensively.

It will be interesting to see how Green's relationship with guys like Gaunce, Baertschi, Beiga, Pedan, Subban will influence their opportunities.


WhiteLie
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Jul 12 @ 3:42 PM ET
I'm sure I can find some examples of players that went on to have solid careers after only putting up 1 goal in their first 80 games.

I agree with what you are saying about the competition though, Gaunce if he makes the team will not be given offensive opportunities over the names you mentioned. That said Gaunce broke out for Green offensively when he was shifted back to C in UTica when they were devastated with injuries. I think he gets a chance to play with some actual NHL talent rather than Chaput/Skille/Megna and we get a better idea of if he can contribute offensively.

It will be interesting to see how Green's relationship with guys like Gaunce, Baertschi, Beiga, Pedan, Subban will influence their opportunities.

- belcherbd


Totally, I just thought it was a funny side note that he has not shot a puck in the net yet.

If it happens I think, like Utica, it will take him a few seasons to get comfortable and work his way into a role where he could put up some offense. When I watched him last year he didnt look comfortable, lots of skating in circles and chasing pucks. Once he catches onto the pace and can make better reads, he could possibly produce
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