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Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 11 @ 3:09 PM ET
I don't think so. Last 3 blogs I've sent in have been completely ignored and either Paul or Brandon have put out similar blogs a day or two after... so if I had to guess...
- kev1586

well at least Ek is a real class act and lets you know where you stand.
what a joke.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 11 @ 3:10 PM ET
well at least Ek is a real class act and lets you know where you stand.
what a joke.

- Fountain-San


I am SHOCKED about this unprofessional treatment coming from a respected journalist like Eklund.

SHOCKED.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jul 11 @ 3:11 PM ET
I am SHOCKED about this unprofessional treatment coming from a respected journalist like Eklund.

SHOCKED.

- Scabeh

your big screen TV and xbox are lost in shipping!
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Jul 11 @ 3:13 PM ET
you watch hockey much? weber is one of the best dmen in the game and yes he is a very good puck mover. i dont care about the habs, but this is not one of your better moments. just an fyi...
- joenardonesson

Believe what you want to, as you can see above I'm not the only Habs fan who doesn't think he's a great puck mover. I certainly wouldn't say his offensive vision is fantastic enough either to earn that label. Most of his goals are blasts from the point.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jul 11 @ 3:15 PM ET

well this was a mistake
Robeun
Season Ticket Holder
Montreal Canadiens
Location: SK
Joined: 01.28.2012

Jul 11 @ 3:17 PM ET
Well the comments are really bashing Markov Wow! He hand a good season better than alot of other d-men in the league and yes He made 4.25 million. I really think he can find a spot on this team but think the term is the issue. The comment :There is a very solid D group assembled in Montreal for the upcoming season I have to disagree with I think that is an area of concern Can you say they are improved over last year in that area ? My last point for the comment of Markov slowing down in the playoff Well to be honest the WHOLE team slowed down.
kev1586
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Earlton, ON
Joined: 04.27.2008

Jul 11 @ 3:21 PM ET
Believe what you want to, as you can see above I'm not the only Habs fan who doesn't think he's a great puck mover. I certainly wouldn't say his offensive vision is fantastic enough either to earn that label. Most of his goals are blasts from the point.
- apex123


You are right that he should not be labelled a PMD based on his skating and his offensive vision. That being said, panicking because we don't have D to get the puck to our forwards is the basis of this argument, and in that respect, Weber more than gets the job done. In fact, he's even better than many PMDs in the league because if the pass isn't there, and he doesn't have room to move up with it himself (which he does more often than you give him credit for), he isn't afraid to chip it out off the glass instead of turning it over, something Petry or Beaulieu or even Emelin would get caught with.

So the whole OMG we need a PMD is over-rated because although Weber is not a PMD, he is a complete defenseman that gets that job done on that pairing if need be. Notice I said if need be... yes, having Markov there would be that much better so that both partners can handle that aspect of the breakout to make it less predictable. So between Weber, Petry, and hopefully Jerabek on the third pairing, we should be fine in regards to getting the puck up to forwards...
Popofjc
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Quebec City, QC
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jul 11 @ 3:23 PM ET
Believe what you want to, as you can see above I'm not the only Habs fan who doesn't think he's a great puck mover. I certainly wouldn't say his offensive vision is fantastic enough either to earn that label. Most of his goals are blasts from the point.
- apex123


I think Weber can be a good puck mover when he wants, it's true he can make nice passes, and when controlling the puck while he doesn't skate fast, he has nice puck protection abilities. But for some reason he often decide to depend on his D partner (except maybe when he was paired with Emelin) to get out of his zone. He often, after having gained the puck after board battles in his zone, make a short pass to his partner and let him exit while staying a bit behind. Not necessarily a bad thing if he's paired with the correct guy, but sill.

Weber does have good abilities with the puck and we he try he can exit the zone in control surprisingly well, but too often he doesn't even try. Come with his "low-risk reliable" style of play I guess.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jul 11 @ 3:26 PM ET
I really dont think anyone is in the market for a 6 million dollar 38 year old Dman. Perhaps at a cheaper price he might find a home but a lot of teams seem like they are set.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 11 @ 3:32 PM ET
I really dont think anyone is in the market for a 6 million dollar 38 year old Dman. Perhaps at a cheaper price he might find a home but a lot of teams seem like they are set.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Markov's value to the Habs is greater than his value on the open market.

Imo, Bergevin is being wise not giving him the contract he's asking for, hopefully he accepts the Habs offer for less.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jul 11 @ 3:32 PM ET
I think Ek was scared by my lawsuit
- Not_Yan

stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jul 11 @ 3:33 PM ET
Howard is in Milan

Anna Galchenyuk is in Milan


WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jul 11 @ 3:35 PM ET
25stanley‏ @25stanley 43 minil y a 43 minutes
Plus
Stéphane Da Costa serait en discussion avec les Canadiens de Montréal → http://bit.ly/2ueZJRk #Habs
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Jul 11 @ 3:35 PM ET
You are right that he should not be labelled a PMD based on his skating and his offensive vision. That being said, panicking because we don't have D to get the puck to our forwards is the basis of this argument, and in that respect, Weber more than gets the job done. In fact, he's even better than many PMDs in the league because if the pass isn't there, and he doesn't have room to move up with it himself (which he does more often than you give him credit for), he isn't afraid to chip it out off the glass instead of turning it over, something Petry or Beaulieu or even Emelin would get caught with.

So the whole OMG we need a PMD is over-rated because although Weber is not a PMD, he is a complete defenseman that gets that job done on that pairing if need be. Notice I said if need be... yes, having Markov there would be that much better so that both partners can handle that aspect of the breakout to make it less predictable. So between Weber, Petry, and hopefully Jerabek on the third pairing, we should be fine in regards to getting the puck up to forwards...

- kev1586


I'm not panicked personally, I was just arguing the label more than anything. When I think great puck mover, the first one who comes to mind is Subban. Yeah I know he holds it too long sometimes to a teams detriment, but in terms of raw puck moving skills he has great skating mobility and makes amazing breakaway passes. Don't get me wrong this was no knock on Weber, I just don't consider that label correct for him. Yeah I agree we don't have to worry about getting a PMD, although if we don't resign Markov/do something interesting our team is at best equal to last years.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jul 11 @ 3:35 PM ET
Markov's value to the Habs is greater than his value on the open market.

Imo, Bergevin is being wise not giving him the contract he's asking for, hopefully he accepts the Habs offer for less.

- Scabeh

Give him 3 years at 13M

lower the cap and make him happy.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 11 @ 3:36 PM ET
25stanley‏ @25stanley 43 minil y a 43 minutes
Plus
Stéphane Da Costa serait en discussion avec les Canadiens de Montréal → http://bit.ly/2ueZJRk #Habs

- WaterBoy


Interesting.
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Jul 11 @ 3:40 PM ET
25stanley‏ @25stanley 43 minil y a 43 minutes
Plus
Stéphane Da Costa serait en discussion avec les Canadiens de Montréal → http://bit.ly/2ueZJRk #Habs

- WaterBoy

Is this something to get excited about (I'm serious)?
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jul 11 @ 3:41 PM ET
25stanley‏ @25stanley 43 minil y a 43 minutes
Plus
Stéphane Da Costa serait en discussion avec les Canadiens de Montréal → http://bit.ly/2ueZJRk #Habs

- WaterBoy


WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jul 11 @ 3:42 PM ET
Is this something to get excited about (I'm serious)?
- apex123

Didn't he get like 96 points in 94 games in the KHL ?
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Jul 11 @ 3:44 PM ET
Didn't he get like 96 points in 94 games in the KHL ?
- WaterBoy

Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jul 11 @ 3:44 PM ET
Howard is in Milan

Anna Galchenyuk is in Milan



- stinger67


Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 11 @ 3:46 PM ET
Didn't he get like 96 points in 94 games in the KHL ?
- WaterBoy


He did.

It would be an interesting signing.... I wonder how much he'd ask for.

If it's not much, go for it Bergefail!
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Jul 11 @ 3:47 PM ET
He did.

It would be an interesting signing.... I wonder how much he'd ask for.

If it's not much, go for it Bergefail!

- Scabeh


Don't they already have enough fringe NHL players signed? I mean, how many guys do they want battling for 1-2 spots on the roster?
gumper40
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Jul 11 @ 3:49 PM ET
Weber is absolutely not a puck-moving d-man. Not sure where you got that from. That'a why he was so tradeable in Smashville. They needed the puck-moving skills PK to go with the type of offense they were trying to run. To quote an article from Nashville when he was traded, it was written that as much as they loved Weber for all he could bring to the team, he handled the puck like a live grenade. What the Habs so sorely lacked in the playoffs was what they traded away (thrice now in the last year!) Big guy. Big shot. Not a puck-mover.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 11 @ 3:50 PM ET
Don't they already have enough fringe NHL players signed? I mean, how many guys do they want battling for 1-2 spots on the roster?
- BashCH


Well the Habs don't have many options at Centre/RW and he plays both positions.

As a depth signing that could actually surprise, even though the odds are low, why not?
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