How long is Roy going to get the blame? Sounds like Leaf fans blaming Ballard for years. I think Sakic is gun shy to pull off a deal. They gave ROR away for basically nothing so now he wants to try and get way more then someones worth.
- sparky

Yea. Zadorov, Compher, Greer and Morrison is nothing. Go back to your hole.

Yea. Zadorov, Compher, Greer and Morrison is nothing. Go back to your hole.
- avsfaninmn

Thank you. Four great young players = nothing. #hockeyguy

Yea. Zadorov, Compher, Greer and Morrison is nothing. Go back to your hole.
- avsfaninmn

problem is, none of them add up to ROR's value. And likely never will.

problem is, none of them add up to ROR's value. And likely never will.
- aschuter82

When will people understand, ROR did not want to resign with the Avs, he wanted an HUGE contract that he frankly isn't worth. Sakic got the best he could. I don't see how you can say he got nothing in return when 2 of the players are still developing at an NHL level. Everyone was impressed by Zadorov and Compher last year in what they saw.

Now Sakic holds out on Duchene and people flip out. I wouldn't be against holding onto Duchene and see how he responds this year. If he comes out flying, i'd be okay with the Avs holding onto him and show him faith and maybe he resigns with the Avs. Stranger things have happened

Good on Roy for walking away from this tire fire. He left because sakic is a bad gm and can't improve a team that Roy squeezed an incredible season out of first year. I'm sure it was tough to leave but here they are now and I'm sure he is happy with the decision.

When will people understand, ROR did not want to resign with the Avs, he wanted an HUGE contract that he frankly isn't worth. Sakic got the best he could. I don't see how you can say he got nothing in return when 2 of the players are still developing at an NHL level. Everyone was impressed by Zadorov and Compher last year in what they saw.

Now Sakic holds out on Duchene and people flip out. I wouldn't be against holding onto Duchene and see how he responds this year. If he comes out flying, i'd be okay with the Avs holding onto him and show him faith and maybe he resigns with the Avs. Stranger things have happened
- Sakic26

1) Why is Ryan O' Reilly not worth that contract?
2) ROR was fine to stay until they jerked him around and tried to lowball him.
3) Don't paint yourself into a corner and trade really good players for "the best you can get". That's just piss poor asset management.
4) Sure, Zads is nice. Are the Avs better with him or ROR? Pretty easy choice.

Good on Roy for walking away from this tire fire. He left because sakic is a bad gm and can't improve a team that Roy squeezed an incredible season out of first year. I'm sure it was tough to leave but here they are now and I'm sure he is happy with the decision.
- sensmelon

no a .930 save percentage of Varly got them into the playoffs that year. Roy made the team worse after that year being the GM that offseason. Look it up, Roy engineered some Brad Stuart, Briere trades, iggy signing, bad extentions to his foot soilders. Roy bought into his own hype when it was his goalie that he had a bad relationship with that got him to the playoffs, not his coaching

Nice try, keep it up, maybe a you should look at your own team and how they have made the playoffs recently. a .970 stretch of the Hamburglur and playing the most boring trapping style of hockey known to man.

As a sens fan you really shouldnt be looking down at any other franchises with how that place is ran penny pinching and wasting the prime of Karlsson

problem is, none of them add up to ROR's value. And likely never will.
- aschuter82

You are way off, Zads is a very promising defender, Compher and Morrison are young kids and you don't know how they're going to pan out in the future. I really like what I've seen from Compher so far. Orielly is a greedy ba$tard and is not worth his contract. He's been there 2 years and they have not made the playoffs.

its absolutely unreal to me that people are so high up on O'Reilly. is he a good 2 way player, sure...does he score meaningful goals sometimes, sure. but people forget how he basically alienated himself on an Av's team because he wanted to be #1 and paid as such after 5 decent seasons w the team and only one of which he scored over 60pts. he wanted to be the leader. well I"m sorry but leaders have character and take accountability and to plow into a donut shoppe while you're drinking and driving and fleeing the scene is not good character nor is it being accountable for your actions.

what I"m truly waiting for, is when Eichel gets that fat rich contract where he makes more than O'Reilly and even becomes Captain of this Sabres team and O'Reilly will simply implode. it will be sweet sweet justice because he'll start his bs act all over again and get his daddy to criticize ownership and Sabres fans can really see what that person is like to deal w when he thinks he's worth more than he is. then he'll demand a trade. and Av's fans will never ever have to hear again how they "lost" the O'Reilly deal ever again

You are way off, Zads is a very promising defender, Compher and Morrison are young kids and you don't know how they're going to pan out in the future. I really like what I've seen from Compher so far. Orielly is a greedy ba$tard and is not worth his contract. He's been there 2 years and they have not made the playoffs.
- Avsrchamps01

So...ROR is a legit elite NHL center, but sure, lets just take a few guys and roll the dice that maybe they might be that good?

LOL @ greedy bastard. Yes, guy who worked his ass off his whole life to become an NHL player should take a discount because Avsrchamps01 thinks he should. There are no guarantees in life, get paid and get real paid when you can.

its absolutely unreal to me that people are so high up on O'Reilly. is he a good 2 way player, sure...does he score meaningful goals sometimes, sure. but people forget how he basically alienated himself on an Av's team because he wanted to be #1 and paid as such after 3 decent seasons w the team. he wanted to be the leader. well I"m sorry but leaders have character and take accountability and to plow into a donut shoppe while you're drinking and driving and fleeing the scene is not good character nor is it accountable for your actions.

what I"m truly waiting for, is when Eichel gets that fat rich contract where he makes more than O'Reilly and even becomes Captain of this Sabres team and O'Reilly will simply implode. it will be sweet sweet justice because he'll start his bs act all over again and Sabres fans can really see what that person is like to deal w when he thinks he's worth more than he is. then he'll demand a trade. and Av's fans will never ever have to hear again how they "lost" the O'Reilly deal ever again
- deej19

Nice basket of cliches. I'm glad you've got character figured out. Well done.

Nice basket of cliches. I'm glad you've got character figured out. Well done.
- aschuter82

well its clear character isnt something you exude or respect considering your O'Reilly fanboyism to ignore such flaws in someone because they get mediocre results on the ice. stay classy friend

well its clear character isnt something you exude or respect considering your O'Reilly fanboyism to ignore such flaws in someone because they get mediocre results on the ice. stay classy friend

- deej19

Desperately waiting for you to provide the mediocre results for everyone to see.

no a .930 save percentage of Varly got them into the playoffs that year. Roy made the team worse after that year being the GM that offseason. Look it up, Roy engineered some Brad Stuart, Briere trades, iggy signing, bad extentions to his foot soilders. Roy bought into his own hype when it was his goalie that he had a bad relationship with that got him to the playoffs, not his coaching

Nice try, keep it up, maybe a you should look at your own team and how they have made the playoffs recently. a .970 stretch of the Hamburglur and playing the most boring trapping style of hockey known to man.

As a sens fan you really shouldnt be looking down at any other franchises with how that place is ran penny pinching and wasting the prime of Karlsson
- DDM-Coga

Let the tears flow fat man and enjoy watching your team bottom feed again should be a riveting season lol

So...ROR is a legit elite NHL center, but sure, lets just take a few guys and roll the dice that maybe they might be that good?

LOL @ greedy bastard. Yes, guy who worked his ass off his whole life to become an NHL player should take a discount because Avsrchamps01 thinks he should. There are no guarantees in life, get paid and get real paid when you can.
- aschuter82

He never wanted to stay here, when Sakic offered him a long term deal O'Reilly told the Avs he would sign at 8M+. He is not worth that kind of money. at least Duchene took all the bridge contracts to prove himself. Oreilly is a good player, but not worth what he wanted from the Avs and not worth what he's getting paid now. I'm happy with the return we got and for everyone saying Grigorenko was a major part of the deal has no idea what they are talking about and can suck it.

He never wanted to stay here, when Sakic offered him a long term deal O'Reilly told the Avs he would sign at 8M+. He is not worth that kind of money. at least Duchene took all the bridge contracts to prove himself. Oreilly is a good player, but not worth what he wanted from the Avs and not worth what he's getting paid now. I'm happy with the return we got and for everyone saying Grigorenko was a major part of the deal has no idea what they are talking about and can suck it.
- Avsrchamps01

Link me to where ROR asked for $8 mil please.

And here's some reading material. ROR is better than you you think
http://www.thehockeynews....es-it-take-to-win-the-cup

Link me to where ROR asked for $8 mil please.

And here's some reading material. ROR is better than you you think
http://www.thehockeynews....es-it-take-to-win-the-cup
- aschuter82

I found a message board thread claiming 8x8, assuming it's legit...I'd still have done that.

I found a message board thread claiming 8x8, assuming it's legit...I'd still have done that.
- aschuter82

I love ROR the player but I honestly don't believe he wanted any part of the Avs.
Even if they offered him 8m he probably wouldnt have signed it

It sucks but looking at the time line I think he was trying to forced his way out or have the team build around him

At the time, he wasn't going to take priority over MacKinnon, Duchene, and Landy.

It is what it is and I am ok with that, im exctied about the future pieces . Avs were never going to get the best player in trading ROR and I dont ve think they had to. Just the right ones and right now with Compher, Zads, and Greer. I think they did

Let the tears flow fat man and enjoy watching your team bottom feed again should be a riveting season lol
- sensmelon

Thats a pretty big pedestal you're shouting down from after one okay post season in the last 10+ years where you made the ECF. Bubble teams should keep their mouths hushed... over half the time you miss the playoffs the same as the bottom feeders.

So...ROR is a legit elite NHL center, but sure, lets just take a few guys and roll the dice that maybe they might be that good?

LOL @ greedy bastard. Yes, guy who worked his ass off his whole life to become an NHL player should take a discount because Avsrchamps01 thinks he should. There are no guarantees in life, get paid and get real paid when you can.

See why sakic is holding out on Duchene? You litterally just answered your own(probably) and everyone elses question about why he hasn't been traded yet. Why would Sakic take another decent NHLer + futures package when he caught an obscene amount of flak for the ROR trade. He knows what he wants and if he doesn't hear the sweet sound of his asking price he's telling GMs to pound sand.

Link me to where ROR asked for $8 mil please.

And here's some reading material. ROR is better than you you think
http://www.thehockeynews....es-it-take-to-win-the-cup
- aschuter82

Here you go, enjoy

http://blogs.denverpost.c...m-over-eight-years/21632/

I found a message board thread claiming 8x8, assuming it's legit...I'd still have done that.
- aschuter82

$8 Million a year for a guy who scored 20-21 goals per season, umm no thank you. He's not worth anywhere close to $8M per year.

$8 Million a year for a guy who scored 20-21 goals per season, umm no thank you. He's not worth anywhere close to $8M per year.
- Avsrchamps01

If you don't care to look any deeper than goals, that's your issue.

Here you go, enjoy

http://blogs.denverpost.c...m-over-eight-years/21632/
- Avsrchamps01

Fair enough. They could have locked him up for cheaper had they not jerked him around coming off the ELC.

Either way, I'd have given him $8x8 if it came down to it.

Fair enough. They could have locked him up for cheaper had they not jerked him around coming off the ELC.

Either way, I'd have given him $8x8 if it came down to it.
- aschuter82

could have but I dont think they jerked him around..the story was that he wanted the exact same Landeskog contract coming off his ELC

Duchene signed a bridge deal after outscoring ROR by leaps and bounds over their ELC years. Even back then ROR felt like he was owed something.

There has to be more to the story bc there were all these rumours of him thinking he was going to be named Captain before Landeskog, etc. I dunno I think ROR and the Avs were never on the same page from Dy a1