Strictly stats - Kopitar was a $10 million cap hit scored 52 points, Bozak was a $4.2 million cap hit scored 55 points. If you want to take it a step further, Kopitar averaged 20:46 of ice time per game, Bozak was 16:26 per game.




- winsix

Now do the 10 years before that

If injuries happen, sure, it might happen.

Not a big fan of Holland. It's a depth signing, 2 way contract, destined for the AHL if things go the way they're planned.
- Scabeh

How did Bergevin fit Holland's Agent's number in that wallet!

How did Bergevin fit Holland's Agent's number in that wallet!
- Aetherial

I keep telling you guys.

This man is a magician when it comes to signing 3rd/4th liner.

He might be the best in the goddamn league!

I keep telling you guys.

This man is a magician when it comes to signing 3rd/4th liner.

He might be the best in the goddamn league!
- Scabeh

You know how I know I've been a little to overzealous with lefties over the past 10 days? I had no idea you guys signed Alzner until right now

When Bozak was a #1 C (by default) he was in over his head and didn't fill the role.

As a #3, he's great for the team.

I say keep him for a while and see what his ask is for a new deal.

Having him and JVR motivated for a new contract can be a good thing.

ALSO, don't forget the Leafs only made the playoffs in the 81st game last season, no guarantee that they do it again by adding only Marleau and Hainsey to the lineup which means they could do well by dealing JVR and Bozak at the deadline.

My suggestion would be to keep them both and see how the team does in the first 40 games then go from there.
- cracka

I agree keep Bozie. Can never have too many centers.

And yes this team could easily miss the playoffs as several players had career years last season. But I dont see Matthews taking a step back (Im hoping he scores 5 less goals and has a couple more assist), Im hoping neither of the other two do as well.
So Im hoping the team makes positives strides forward, has more wins and points when its all said and done.

You know how I know I've been a little to overzealous with lefties over the past 10 days? I had no idea you guys signed Alzner until right now
- markmark

Well we did.

So obviously he sucks.




Now.

ITs the first time in his career he's gotten over 50 points.
Ya, on certain teams he could easily be a 2nd liner...true, agreed.
- Fakepartofme

Agree, and I would venture that even though he played with JVR and Kessel before, this was the best line he was ever on in his career. One of the mitigating points right now is the Leafs will have to make at least one, possibly two, 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 trades to reduce the number of contracts. They don't want to lose players like Rychel for nothing by exposing him to waivers when camp ends. I would be ok for including Bozak in a package with other pieces and picks but lets get the best player back. That is certainly not the case with this suggestion.

Well we did.

So obviously he sucks.




Now.
- Scabeh

I can honestly say, there is not one single Habs player who I'd like to see raise the cup. Drouin I guess because he hasn't pulled on the sweater yet but come October 4 he's a total douche canoe.

Agree, and I would venture that even though he played with JVR and Kessel before, this was the best line he was ever on in his career. One of the mitigating points right now is the Leafs will have to make at least one, possibly two, 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 trades to reduce the number of contracts. They don't want to lose players like Rychel for nothing by exposing him to waivers when camp ends. I would be ok for including Bozak in a package with other pieces and picks but lets get the best player back. That is certainly not the case with this suggestion.
- winsix

Yup.
I definitely see a multi player for 1 type of deal coming from leafs.
Hopefully for quality....but who knows.

I can honestly say, there is not one single Habs player who I'd like to see raise the cup. Drouin I guess because he hasn't pulled on the sweater yet but come October 4 he's a total douche canoe.
- markmark

Weber for sure.

Just not on the habs.

Agree, and I would venture that even though he played with JVR and Kessel before, this was the best line he was ever on in his career. One of the mitigating points right now is the Leafs will have to make at least one, possibly two, 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 trades to reduce the number of contracts. They don't want to lose players like Rychel for nothing by exposing him to waivers when camp ends. I would be ok for including Bozak in a package with other pieces and picks but lets get the best player back. That is certainly not the case with this suggestion.
- winsix

Meh, they got him for absolutely nothing

Now do the 10 years before that
- markmark

Good point. Kopitar is a good example of a GM's worst nightmare. Pay a player for what he used to do. His contract and Brown's and Gaborik's are the main reasons Lomardy's ass was punted out of LA. Kopitar is set to make $10 million for 7 more years, easily the worst contract in the NHL. Makes the Phaneuf deal look like a bargain. Kopitar may well bounce back and have a good year or two, smart money says he never delivers on that contract.

Meh, they got him for absolutely nothing
- Garth_Mctavish

Has value, scored 52 points on the Marlies with lots of grit.

Good point. Kopitar is a good example of a GM's worst nightmare. Pay a player for what he used to do. His contract and Brown's and Gaborik's are the main reasons Lomardy's ass was punted out of LA. Kopitar is set to make $10 million for 7 more years, easily the worst contract in the NHL. Makes the Phaneuf deal look like a bargain. Kopitar may well bounce back and have a good year or two, smart money says he never delivers on that contract.
- winsix

Yet to be seen. I'd say it's a MUCH bigger problem to pay Kulemin or Clarkson big money after ONE good year. A Selke winner who has consistently put up good numbers playing both ends of the ice for a decade I think shouldn't lose all confidence from management after a down year in which the whole team did poorly.

Yet to be seen. I'd say it's a MUCH bigger problem to pay Kulemin or Clarkson big money after ONE good year. A Selke winner who has consistently put up good numbers playing both ends of the ice for a decade I think shouldn't lose all confidence from management after a down year in which the whole team did poorly.
- markmark

This.

Kopitar is god damn amazing when he's on his game.

He's far from being "the problem" for LA.

> the guy above - next year:
"McDavid easily worst contract in NHL, since he only got 85 points this season.."



Kopitar is a #1C.
please stop talking nonsense

Geez...did I read a bunch of praise for Bozak...that's strange but nice for a chance.

Again..if we trade JVR I don't see Marleau playing with Matthews...I'd say Hyman stays there and Marleau will play with Bozak and Marner...that's my guess anyways.

Geez...did I read a bunch of praise for Bozak...that's strange but nice for a chance.

Again..if we trade JVR I don't see Marleau playing with Matthews...I'd say Hyman stays there and Marleau will play with Bozak and Marner...that's my guess anyways.
- annoyed

Assuming the roster today stays intact this is what I'd want:

Marleau-Matthews-Nylander
JVR-Bozak-Marner
Brown-Kadri-Komarov
Kapanen-Moore-Hyman/Martin

This.

Kopitar is god damn amazing when he's on his game.

He's far from being "the problem" for LA.
- Scabeh

Under Bozak's leadership, the Leafs made the playoffs.

LA missed the playoffs.

Bozak>>>Krapitar.

Under Bozak's leadership, the Leafs made the playoffs.

LA missed the playoffs.

Bozak>>>Krapitar.
- Atomic Wedgie

I (frank)ing knew it! You were UG this whole time.

I (frank)ing knew it! You were UG this whole time.
- markmark

There were signs.... we just all missed them.

- TheMussel

Nice... lol that was my next guess.

JVR/Kapanen for manson? I like that

Assuming the roster today stays intact this is what I'd want:

Marleau-Matthews-Nylander
JVR-Bozak-Marner
Brown-Kadri-Komarov
Kapanen-Moore-Hyman/Martin
- markmark

Somethings gonna happen...can't see them signing Hyman to be a spare...Martin is going to get his reg shift regardless of how poopty people think he is.

Hopefully we get our Big D ( as per EK ) sometime this week

This.

Kopitar is god damn amazing when he's on his game.

He's far from being "the problem" for LA.
- Scabeh

While I agree with this, it is just not a good contract. He will have alot of miles on those legs when he is 35, 36 and 37 and still making $10 large a year. The Brown contract and the Gaborik contract are bad. And the age factor is also a problem for them. But on the plus side they won two cups with these players. They are due for a couple of tough years. I would trade the hardship for the cups.

Yea I know... that's why I said they got a top 10 pick for Stepan and Raanta
Arizona's pick at 7.... and D'Angelo or whatever his name is - when they made that trade.

I also mentioned that they 'created a hole' by traded away stepan (To Arizona)... and now needed centre help.

What's your point?

- Bleedz_Blue

my bad