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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 10 @ 10:02 PM ET
seems like to me the the tweets are 2 separate deals.
- Tumbleweed


Tough to see the Leafs unloading salary on Calgary...they have 0 picks right now and a meh prospect pool.

Could be trying to unload some salary on COL or NYR

then trading some players with Burke to grab one of them. Brodie would be unreal.

Burke obviously loves JVR, Bozak
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jul 10 @ 10:06 PM ET
Yes that's what I mean we pay the players in us . dollars so it cost us more! a frank of alot more!
- MR.Hunter


Oh, right...I'm in the US so I always think of it from US to Canada, not the other way.

30 cents on every dollar is crazy but technically the cap for the Leafs is $90m plus/ season.
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Jul 10 @ 10:13 PM ET
Seriously.. I didn't think JVR would get anywhere near 7 mill... but after looking up those players mentioned (Okposo, Ladd, Lucic etc..).. they all got PAID right around the same age that jvr is.. and you're right.. JVR is probably better than Loui Eriksson ($6), Ryan ($7.25) and ladd ($6).

Dam... we gotta move him.. and I have a feeling if we keep him.. we won't want to move him at the deadline.. we'll want him for a run if we're lucky enough to be in the playoffs again (I miss Dart Guy already) and we won't be able to keep him ($$$).

- Bleedz_Blue

I personally think or obviously? talked to his agent before the free agent signings and knew what he wants and it's to rich for their blood! So looking at LW options they signed marleau, I heard somewhere that they offered both marleau and Thorton identical two year deals?Thornton copped out and it took the third to get marleau signed! Jvr is the only player we have a decent amount of depth on LW,but my feelings are it's Brown that certain teams are possibly interested in! So he could be the guy if a trade is done? so they might make one more depth signing in September or maybe give a PTO
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Jul 10 @ 10:15 PM ET
If for some reason we need to move a body for Brown to be signed, I'm 100% for moving Komarov for whatever we can get for him.

He makes $2.95M, which is probably a bit shy of what Brown will make, and Hyman easily replaces what Komarov brings; factor in Kapanen being so good on the PK towards the end of last year, and I just don't see why we'd keep Komarov around.

He's exactly the kind of role player you replace on a cheap 1-year deal in UFA (Moore) or from within your system (Rychel).

- gravyface

Luos working the phones I'm sure!
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Jul 10 @ 10:19 PM ET
The only thing I'd say is that Eriksson and Ladd bring a possession/two-way game that JVR lacks entirely. He's only good in a sheltered scoring role and has never played up to his size.

Still, I think he'll get at least 6.5 on the open market, depending on term.

- gravyface

If a low scoring team needs goals! And their hard to come by now a days!,when he's your guy like Phil a bit one dimensional but hey if lou doesn't have a deal he likes then we keep him! If he walks frank him! It's not the best asset management but it won't be crippling either
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Jul 10 @ 10:21 PM ET
The NBA is too much

But it would be nice if teams could go over by like 5-10 million but just had to pay an insane luxury tax. So only teams like the Leafs, NYR, Habs, ect could do it. It's not a lot but it's enough to keep the rich competitive.

- Santo_44

not bad!
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Jul 10 @ 10:23 PM ET
Oh, right...I'm in the US so I always think of it from US to Canada, not the other way.

30 cents on every dollar is crazy but technically the cap for the Leafs is $90m plus/ season.

- underhill14

Where are you at?
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Jul 10 @ 10:24 PM ET
If for some reason we need to move a body for Brown to be signed, I'm 100% for moving Komarov for whatever we can get for him.

He makes $2.95M, which is probably a bit shy of what Brown will make, and Hyman easily replaces what Komarov brings; factor in Kapanen being so good on the PK towards the end of last year, and I just don't see why we'd keep Komarov around.

He's exactly the kind of role player you replace on a cheap 1-year deal in UFA (Moore) or from within your system (Rychel).

- gravyface


Komarov was second only to Matthews in ice time for forwards last season. He's a workhorse for Babcock.
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Jul 10 @ 10:26 PM ET
I think that sports leagues need to rebalance their cap world, to take into account taxation. Teams in Florida have a double advantage with good weather and little or no income tax. It's why Lebron James was able to put together a super team and win a few NBA titles. In the NHL, Tampa was able to keep Steven Stamkos, because of the tax differential. Other teams were at a disadvantage and had little or no hope in signing him, due to the Florida tax advantage. Time to allow each jurisdiction to factor in the tax differential in their salary cap.
- PrinceLH


Who cares it's their advantage. Toronto will bend every rule they can and flex financial muscle at every opportunity. Does NY have a tax advantage?
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Jul 10 @ 10:26 PM ET
So Johnson goes for $5m x 7, but Marner and Nylander are supposed to go for $8m+
- As_I_See_It



Matthews 10 mill x 8yrs

Nylander and Marner 6.5 mill x 6 yrs
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Jul 10 @ 10:30 PM ET
Ya it's bullshat! ! Plain and simple! The players are payed in u.s. dollars! And certain tax laws and housing prices give u.s. teams huge advantages! Our dollar floating around the 70 cent mark?,there should be a provision for the Canadian teams to have a 78mil cap at least 3mil more than their u.s. counter parts! Far to long have the Canadian teams toronto and Montreal in particular! but probably all !have been proping up money losing franchises and small market American teams to long! Bullshat!
- MR.Hunter


The generally richer Canadian teams (not Ottawa) should use that to their advantage. A player making 5m USD is really pulling down nearly 6.5m CAD.
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Jul 10 @ 10:35 PM ET
Bozak hasn't been utlized as a third line center in Toronto ever. He's a second line center, secondary offensive unit.

Bozak/Kadri

They both played a lot of PP and literally no PK. But one guy got the wonder rookie and offensive starts, softer shifts.

The other started in his own end against all-stars. He roughed up McJesus and dangled the poop out him and Talbot too.
Matthewz1992_
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.12.2017

Jul 10 @ 11:43 PM ET
There is probably no way we will be able to sign bozak, jvr, komarov. You will be lucky to sign one to a reasonable cap hit and term. But in my eyes, if the opportunity is there to package for a defender. Go for it. Then next year once free agency hits, i am sure there will be other options available or the same options in jvr, bozak, komarov if they want to hop on board for a 1 year front loaded deal. Or if guys like Thorton finally decide to jump ship here, or Tavares decides to not sign with the isles and hits free agency. Lots of options, no rush to sign these guys at the moment.
devias69
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jul 10 @ 11:47 PM ET
Tough to see the Leafs unloading salary on Calgary...they have 0 picks right now and a meh prospect pool.

Could be trying to unload some salary on COL or NYR

then trading some players with Burke to grab one of them. Brodie would be unreal.

Burke obviously loves JVR, Bozak

- Santo_44


I'll tell uou one thing. Gio dougie tj and travis are not going anywhere. They traded for hamonic to pair him with brodie and are not touching the gio dougie pair. Treveling is a lot like lou lams and keeps everything air tight. Its all bs rumors comimg out of calgary. No insiders here have a clue as to what gm treveling is doing. As for Burke. He is just a face here amd actually enjoys it.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 10 @ 11:59 PM ET
Bozak hasn't been utlized as a third line center in Toronto ever. He's a second line center, secondary offensive unit.

Bozak/Kadri

They both played a lot of PP and literally no PK. But one guy got the wonder rookie and offensive starts, softer shifts.

The other started in his own end against all-stars. He roughed up McJesus and dangled the poop out him and Talbot too.

- Blazed



I think this is the new "3rd line". 3 scoring lines, one sheltered and the other two get all the toughs and then 4th line with checkers/energy/pk guys
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Jul 11 @ 12:45 AM ET
I think this is the new "3rd line". 3 scoring lines, one sheltered and the other two get all the toughs and then 4th line with checkers/energy/pk guys
- burn


I agree you need three scoring lines but I think the 3rd is still the classic 'checking line'. Matthews line had offensive zone starts sometimes against strong lines head to head sometimes checking units.

Kadri getting buried in the D zone against all the top stars in the East is closest to a checking line. He's rewarded with no PK and lots of time on the power play.
Mr.FunFacts
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 09.20.2015

Jul 11 @ 1:08 AM ET
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underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jul 11 @ 2:48 AM ET
Matthews 10 mill x 8yrs

Nylander and Marner 6.5 mill x 6 yrs

- Matthews_Auston


Why???

They're not 32 and you don't get that deal with a lame ass 6 year term.

Sign all the kids to max deal and buy up critical UFA years. Team loyalty goes a long way.
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Jul 11 @ 3:10 AM ET
Why???

They're not 32 and you don't get that deal with a lame ass 6 year term.

Sign all the kids to max deal and buy up critical UFA years. Team loyalty goes a long way.

- underhill14

Ya nylander depending on his year could be 6.5 at the low end to 7.5 in the high if he passes 70pts or more? and same with marner in three and Matthews 10+?who knows? Very hard to say but they have enough players to compare production and age! But they'll definitely be max 8 year deals !
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 11 @ 5:49 AM ET
Ya nylander depending on his year could be 6.5 at the low end to 7.5 in the high if he passes 70pts or more? and same with marner in three and Matthews 10+?who knows? Very hard to say but they have enough players to compare production and age! But they'll definitely be max 8 year deals !
- MR.Hunter

Id give AM34 up to 12mil max term.

Marner and Nylander I'd have to wait another year but they will get at least 6.5, but probably 7... And that would be a steal.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 11 @ 5:57 AM ET
Id give AM34 up to 12mil max term.

Marner and Nylander I'd have to wait another year but they will get at least 6.5, but probably 7... And that would be a steal.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


What if Marner or Nylander puts up similar points as Matthews coming season?

I think MAtthews 11mln x 8
Marner 8.5 x 8
Nylander 7.75 x 8
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 11 @ 6:27 AM ET
What if Marner or Nylander puts up similar points as Matthews coming season?

I think MAtthews 11mln x 8
Marner 8.5 x 8
Nylander 7.75 x 8

- MaximusAurelius

Do you think Nylander would take less than Marner?

I don't think so.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 11 @ 6:42 AM ET
Do you think Nylander would take less than Marner?

I don't think so.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


well... Marner is the better player (quite significantly as well) so there's that.
if he doesn't want to take that contract, trade the floater
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 11 @ 6:56 AM ET
well... Marner is the better player (quite significantly as well) so there's that.
if he doesn't want to take that contract, trade the floater

- MaximusAurelius

That's where I think you're wrong. Marner isn't significantly better than Nylander, at least not yet.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 11 @ 7:03 AM ET
What if Marner or Nylander puts up similar points as Matthews coming season?

I think MAtthews 11mln x 8
Marner 8.5 x 8
Nylander 7.75 x 8

- MaximusAurelius



First of all, we need to see Matthews numbers from his second year. If he comes in at say 80 points relative to McDavid's 100 points in his second year, I could see $10 million. If he hits 100 points he could get more than McDavid. My guess would be about $10 M x 8 for Matthews, Marner and Nylander $6.5 each for 8 years. And the Tyler Johnson contract does matter. Lou is pretty sharp at negotiating contracts, Leafs have money but everyone needs to realize the ultimate goals. Also remember that none of these players are RFA's yet. Because of the rarity of offersheets, Leafs hold all the cards in negotiations.
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