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SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 8 @ 8:53 PM ET
Saveourschenns
- Just5

And Mason.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jul 8 @ 8:54 PM ET
Oxford comma is overrated tbh
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 8 @ 9:04 PM ET
Oxford comma is overrated tbh
- Mordecai


If it's not in there, I'm not reading any further
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 8 @ 9:18 PM ET
I'm gonna need reasons behind the character assassination that just took place.
- SuperSchennBros


Seriously?

It's widely known he's an immature poop head who gets into trouble on and off the ice constantly. He has a history of getting into it with teammates and being strongly disliked in the locker room (the Winnipeg trade was because of it).....or skipping practices and rubbing his coaches the wrong way. He was accused of assault in 2014, which was dropped. He was then accused of sexual assault, for which the charges were dropped. Then just for good measure, he was arrested and charged shortly after for allegedly grabbing three women in separate instances during an altercation in Buffalo. Judge dropped that on the condition he not get into more trouble.

Even if he's innocent of the worst, he is a boorish jackass who flings himself head first into terrible situations and doesn't put hockey first. And sorry, but where there's smoke there is probably some fire. 0.0% chance the Flyers would bring in this disaster to (frank) up their team. He's the very antithesis to the players Hextall wants.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jul 8 @ 9:26 PM ET
If it's not in there, I'm not reading any further
- Mononoke

I, can't, understand, your, language, sir
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 8 @ 9:38 PM ET
I, can't, understand, your, language, sir
- Mordecai


You are underselling it
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jul 8 @ 9:49 PM ET
You are underselling it
- ob18

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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 8 @ 10:05 PM ET
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- Mordecai


next time don't try to break the page
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 8 @ 10:06 PM ET
Is there a substitute for baking soda?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 8 @ 10:14 PM ET
Is there a substitute for baking soda?
- Streit2ThePoint


cream of tartar
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jul 8 @ 11:32 PM ET
Is there a substitute for baking soda?
- Streit2ThePoint

Only if you believe in yourself and follow your heart
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 9 @ 12:02 AM ET
Oxford comma is overrated tbh
- Mordecai

Omg stfu
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 9 @ 12:03 AM ET
Is there a substitute for baking soda?
- Streit2ThePoint

DEpends on the application
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 9 @ 12:05 AM ET
I've never referred to my erection as a bonanza but if a third prospect becomes a star I promise to make it the primary term
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:24 AM ET
Evander Kane is terrible.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 9 @ 3:02 AM ET
Flyers and Sixers draft picks both injured right now. You can't make this up
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 9 @ 3:07 AM ET
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jul 9 @ 7:04 AM ET

- Giroux_Is_God



Good job, Tainter Jainter.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 9 @ 8:51 AM ET

- Giroux_Is_God


Tainter Jainter
The man, the myth, the legend.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 9 @ 9:32 AM ET
Flyers and Sixers draft picks both injured right now. You can't make this up
- 2Real

Fultz has an ankle sprain and Patrick will be on th ice soon. Oh what ever will we do???
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 9 @ 9:39 AM ET
I'm gonna need reasons behind the character assassination that just took place.
- SuperSchennBros


Isn't he being sued for assaulting a woman?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 9 @ 10:03 AM ET
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away...

sorry, couldn't resist. What I really wanted to post about though was to follow up in more detail about JMatch's question about where I'd rank Lindros among all Flyers captains. After giving it some thought, here is my top ten list:

Honorable Mentions:
Mel Bridgman
Ron Sutter
Kevin Dineen

10. Eric Lindros
If rating a captain was only based on on-ice performance, the big guy would be #2 after only Bobby Clarke. However there is so much more to being a Captain than what you do during the time you are on the ice. Lindros had a habit of both feuding with and sometimes ducking the media, and that is simply not conducive to being a good Captain since part of the job is to be the player spokesman for the team. Ducking out after the Flyers were swept by the Wings in 97 is simply inexcusable behavior for a captain. Also the whole Lindros family vs Clarke feud didn't help as well. Many of Eric's own teammates have criticized him for the same things so this is not just my opinion. To sum up, great player, so-so Captain.

9. Mike Richards
Another guy who gave it all on the ice, but had his issues off the ice. His refusal to take off ice training seriously is a big black mark against him IMO, even more so than the supposed partying issues.

8. Lou Angotti
Was only here for the inaugural 67-68 season, but he was a class act and set a good example for the younger players on an expansion team. I have also heard, from guys who played with him that year, that he did a nice job of quickly bringing the guys together as a team.

7. Keith Primeau
Not a big fan of how he handled the Bill Barber stuff, but other than that he was a very good Captain. Primeau was instrumental in smoothing things between the rest of the players and Hitchcock and almost singlehandedly willed the team to a Cup in 2004.

6. Eric Desjardins
Having to take over the captaincy during the mess that was the end of the Lindros era in Philly required a special kind of person and Rico was the perfect guy. Classy and soft spoken, respected by all, he was the perfect choice at that time.

5. Ed Van Impe
Van Impe captained the team from 68-69 thru 71-72 and was one of the few hard nosed players on what were relatively soft teams prior to the Bullies era. He gave it all on the ice, was good with the media and always took younger players under his wing. He is one of the all time good guys in Flyers history.

4. Claude Giroux
Giroux has now been Captain nearly as long as any Flyer in history not named Clarke. The team has been up and down during his tenure, but he's done a nice job overall. He plays through injury, gives his all and plays bigger than his size. At this point in his career he is probably better slated as a #2C, but he will do whatever the team needs him to do. He has also greatly improved his interaction with the media over time and he has a rep for being very helpful to the younger players on the roster.

3. Jason Smith
Smith was the ultimate hockey warrior. After just one camp with the team he was unanimously voted Captain by his teammates which pretty much says it all. He played through debilitating pain and injury while he was here and truly left it all on the ice. Taking over as Captain of the team that had just finished dead last in the NHL and taking them to the conference final in the next season is one hell of an accomplishment.

Now, we jump up about 10 notches to the top 2:

2. Dave Poulin
Poulin may just of been the classiest guy to ever wear the orange and black. He was the epitome of what a Captain should be both on and off the ice and he, like Smith, played through injuries that would have sidelined most players. Any NHL team would love to have a captain like Dave Poulin.

1. Bobby Clarke
Now take Dave Poulin and add top quality skills and a near frightening determination to win at all costs and you have the greatest captain in team history, Robert Earle Clarke. Bobby Clarke was the heart and soul of the Broad Street Bullies and he led his team to back to back Cups and 3 straight trips to the finals. He was the ultimate leader and still, IMO, the greatest Flyer of all time. His resume is staggering: 2 Cups, 4 trips to the finals, 3 Hart trophies, a Selke trophy, a Masterton Trophy and over 1200 points in a 15 year career. He is simply Mr. Flyer.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jul 9 @ 10:03 AM ET
Fultz has an ankle sprain and Patrick will be on th ice soon. Oh what ever will we do???
- hereticpride



We're going to complain!

We're going to prophesy doom!

Anyone who disagrees will be labelled a know-nothing scrub... or worse... a company man!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 9 @ 10:08 AM ET
We're going to complain!

We're going to prophesy doom!

Anyone who disagrees will be labelled a know-nothing scrub... or worse... a company man!

- Doc_Sarcasm

Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Jul 9 @ 10:08 AM ET
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away...

sorry, couldn't resist. What I really wanted to post about though was to follow up in more detail about JMatch's question about where I'd rank Lindros among all Flyers captains. After giving it some thought, here is my top ten list:

Honorable Mentions:
Mel Bridgman
Ron Sutter
Kevin Dineen

10. Eric Lindros
If rating a captain was only based on on-ice performance, the big guy would be #2 after only Bobby Clarke. However there is so much more to being a Captain than what you do during the time you are on the ice. Lindros had a habit of both feuding with and sometimes ducking the media, and that is simply not conducive to being a good Captain since part of the job is to be the player spokesman for the team. Ducking out after the Flyers were swept by the Wings in 97 is simply inexcusable behavior for a captain. Also the whole Lindros family vs Clarke feud didn't help as well. Many of Eric's own teammates have criticized him for the same things so this is not just my opinion. To sum up, great player, so-so Captain.

9. Mike Richards
Another guy who gave it all on the ice, but had his issues off the ice. His refusal to take off ice training seriously is a big black mark against him IMO, even more so than the supposed partying issues.

8. Lou Angotti
Was only here for the inaugural 67-68 season, but he was a class act and set a good example for the younger players on an expansion team. I have also heard, from guys who played with him that year, that he did a nice job of quickly bringing the guys together as a team.

7. Keith Primeau
Not a big fan of how he handled the Bill Barber stuff, but other than that he was a very good Captain. Primeau was instrumental in smoothing things between the rest of the players and Hitchcock and almost singlehandedly willed the team to a Cup in 2004.

6. Eric Desjardins
Having to take over the captaincy during the mess that was the end of the Lindros era in Philly required a special kind of person and Rico was the perfect guy. Classy and soft spoken, respected by all, he was the perfect choice at that time.

5. Ed Van Impe
Van Impe captained the team from 68-69 thru 71-72 and was one of the few hard nosed players on what were relatively soft teams prior to the Bullies era. He gave it all on the ice, was good with the media and always took younger players under his wing. He is one of the all time good guys in Flyers history.

4. Claude Giroux
Giroux has now been Captain nearly as long as any Flyer in history not named Clarke. The team has been up and down during his tenure, but he's done a nice job overall. He plays through injury, gives his all and plays bigger than his size. At this point in his career he is probably better slated as a #2C, but he will do whatever the team needs him to do. He has also greatly improved his interaction with the media over time and he has a rep for being very helpful to the younger players on the roster.

3. Jason Smith
Smith was the ultimate hockey warrior. After just one camp with the team he was unanimously voted Captain by his teammates which pretty much says it all. He played through debilitating pain and injury while he was here and truly left it all on the ice. Taking over as Captain of the team that had just finished dead last in the NHL and taking them to the conference final in the next season is one hell of an accomplishment.

Now, we jump up about 10 notches to the top 2:

2. Dave Poulin
Poulin may just of been the classiest guy to ever wear the orange and black. He was the epitome of what a Captain should be both on and off the ice and he, like Smith, played through injuries that would have sidelined most players. Any NHL team would love to have a captain like Dave Poulin.

1. Bobby Clarke
Now take Dave Poulin and add top quality skills and a near frightening determination to win at all costs and you have the greatest captain in team history, Robert Earle Clarke. Bobby Clarke was the heart and soul of the Broad Street Bullies and he led his team to back to back Cups and 3 straight trips to the finals. He was the ultimate leader and still, IMO, the greatest Flyer of all time. His resume is staggering: 2 Cups, 4 trips to the finals, 3 Hart trophies, a Selke trophy, a Masterton Trophy and over 1200 points in a 15 year career. He is simply Mr. Flyer.

- BiggE
And he would always deliver a timely shorthanded goal outta nowhere!
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