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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 6 @ 3:54 PM ET
I would liken Strome more to Patrick Maroon in his draft year. Not just skating issues, but also questions over conditioning (though not to same degree as Maroon).
- bmeltzer


I don't know if you're at liberty to say, but what exactly was the reason that he got traded? Was it simply a lack of conditioning and unwillingness to change?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 6 @ 3:58 PM ET
So where does everyone think Jagr lands? I was kinda bummed from an emotional standpoint to hear that Hexy passed on him, but I understand it.

Maybe go to Las Vegas for a year? They probably have the money and is another name they could market as a living legend.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 6 @ 4:02 PM ET
So where does everyone think Jagr lands? I was kinda bummed from an emotional standpoint to hear that Hexy passed on him, but I understand it.

Maybe go to Las Vegas for a year? They probably have the money and is another name they could market as a living legend.

- jmatchett383


Back to pittsburgh to continue the trend of returns to teams where you had good years.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 6 @ 4:04 PM ET
That would be pretty interesting. On Strome, I think he will end up being the gem of the draft when you take into consideration where he was drafted. Kind of this years Oskar Lindblom.

You cant coach those hands and hockey sense....but you can coach the skating.

- MBFlyerfan



Luc Robitaille was an awful skater and hence was drafted in the 9th round. He made the list of the top 100 players of all time. Not saying Strome will be that good or even become an NHL player but you never know.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 6 @ 4:04 PM ET
Back to pittsburgh to continue the trend of returns to teams where you had good years.
- dragonoffrost


BRING BACK KNUBLE!
BRING BACK GAGNE!
BRING BACK MIKE RICHARDS!

Man, how quickly he fell off.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 4:10 PM ET
Question! In your honest opinions, what should we do with Claude Giroux, Wayne Simmonds and Jake Voracek?

I know I'm just beating a dead horse but really think about those three players specifically career wise. If Hextall is going to sign the lesser Brian Elliot instead of Steve Mason, or trade Brayden Schenn for a package of picks and bottom six forward, or trade Streit for an aging player without a future in Philadelphia, what kind of message does this send these three players? Fans feelings aside, are these three wasting their best years here?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 4:11 PM ET
BRING BACK KNUBLE!
BRING BACK GAGNE!
BRING BACK MIKE RICHARDS!

Man, how quickly he fell off the wagon

- jmatchett383

Fixed

I don't know.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 6 @ 4:12 PM ET
Question! In your honest opinions, what should we do with Claude Giroux, Wayne Simmonds and Jake Voracek?

I know I'm just beating a dead horse but really think about those three players specifically career wise. If Hextall is going to sign the lesser Brian Elliot instead of Steve Mason, or trade Brayden Schenn for a package of picks and bottom six forward, or trade Streit for an aging player without a future in Philadelphia, what kind of message does this send these three players? Fans feelings aside, are these three wasting their best years here?

- SuperSchennBros


No.

They're wasting my best years.

lol

If this team doesn't pick it up soon I'm going to be too old to go to the parade.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 4:26 PM ET
No.

They're wasting my best years.

lol

If this team doesn't pick it up soon I'm going to be too old to go to the parade.

- Scoob


Actually, yes. I'm gonna be 35 in a week. I don't wanna be 40 and tired when they finally contend. As far as G, Jake and Simmonds go. If you're not gonna re-sign your legitimate starter and trade away your second best goal scorer for nothing that helps this coming season, one would think you just blow it up. Trade those three too.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 6 @ 4:27 PM ET
Just want everyone to know that in his 10+ year MLB career, Tainter Jainter is 2/2 with two singles and 1 RBI.

He gets it done on both sides of the baseball.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 6 @ 4:28 PM ET
Actually, yes. I'm gonna be 35 in a week. I don't wanna be 40 and tired when they finally contend.
- SuperSchennBros

Too late for me, I'm 23 and tired.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jul 6 @ 4:29 PM ET
Question! In your honest opinions, what should we do with Claude Giroux, Wayne Simmonds and Jake Voracek?

I know I'm just beating a dead horse but really think about those three players specifically career wise. If Hextall is going to sign the lesser Brian Elliot instead of Steve Mason, or trade Brayden Schenn for a package of picks and bottom six forward, or trade Streit for an aging player without a future in Philadelphia, what kind of message does this send these three players? Fans feelings aside, are these three wasting their best years here?

- SuperSchennBros


A decision on Simmonds isn't required until next off season IMO but it will be a big one. He has a modified NTC so trade options may be limited. Could still get a good return, but not much more than what Schenn just brought in. My mind tells me he's not a player you should give a 6 or 7 million 5+ year deal to but after another 30 goal season, you know some GMs will feel differently.

Giroux and Voracek are in it for the long haul. I would hope they can recognize that Hextall is doing what's best for the future of the team without tanking their hopes to remain competitive. I don't see the moves you mentioned as negatives and doubt they do either.

Elliot was brought into replace Mason because he's seen as a better fit. I agree he may not be as talented as Mason but he's had a much more successful career.

Schenn was traded because Hextall recognized he has numerous young players knocking on the door to replace what he brings. He capitalized on an asset's value.

Trading Streit for Fillpula was a move made in interest of being more competitive last season as well as this one.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 6 @ 4:29 PM ET
I'm calling it right now: Brendan Warren will lead his team in scoring next year.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 6 @ 4:31 PM ET
Just want everyone to know that in his 10+ year MLB career, Tainter Jainter is 2/2 with two singles and 1 RBI.

He gets it done on both sides of the baseball.

- Giroux_Is_God


Singles are for pussies. Real men hit home runs with their bare hands.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 6 @ 4:33 PM ET
Kid needs to shown away from the cookie jar
- Just5


Perhaps he hasn't seen Reefer Madness and the cookie jar is only in his sights on the Devil's Lettuce
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 6 @ 4:34 PM ET
Actually, yes. I'm gonna be 35 in a week. I don't wanna be 40 and tired when they finally contend. As far as G, Jake and Simmonds go. If you're not gonna re-sign your legitimate starter and trade away your second best goal scorer for nothing that helps this coming season, one would think you just blow it up. Trade those three too.
- SuperSchennBros


I think they're starting to turn the corner. I'm guessing playoffs next season, with an upward trajectory after that. They'll need those three big time to do that.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 6 @ 4:38 PM ET
Perhaps he hasn't seen Reefer Madness and the cookie jar is only in his sights on the Devil's Lettuce
- arichardson22


But if that was the case, he'd be punching and/or raping the cookie jar while hallucinating that he was like, riding a unicorn or some such poop.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 6 @ 4:38 PM ET
Singles are for pussies. Real men hit home runs with their bare hands.
- jmatchett383

YOU TAKE THAT BACK
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 6 @ 4:39 PM ET
YOU TAKE THAT BACK
- Giroux_Is_God


Tainter Jainter is a fraud.

You should change his name to Fraud Jainter. Because he's a fraud.

Next game, I'm bringing my "Tainter is a fraud" banner and putting it in the bullpen.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 6 @ 4:40 PM ET
Tainter Jainter is a fraud.

You should change his name to Fraud Jainter. Because he's a fraud.

Next game, I'm bringing my "Tainter is a fraud" banner and putting it in the bullpen.

- jmatchett383

HE'LL SHOW YOU. HE'LL SHOW ALL OF YOU
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 6 @ 4:40 PM ET
HE'LL SHOW YOU. HE'LL SHOW ALL OF YOU
- Giroux_Is_God


How many bench clearing brawls has he started and won? Huh!? HUH!??
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jul 6 @ 4:42 PM ET
I think they're starting to turn the corner. I'm guessing playoffs next season, with an upward trajectory after that. They'll need those three big time to do that.
- Scoob


If Patrick turns out to be the real deal, they're absolutely stacked up the middle. However, they may need to think about moving Giroux to the wing if his even strength game doesn't improve.
SimmerDown17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: It aint my fault, SimmerDown aint my alt, CA
Joined: 06.26.2014

Jul 6 @ 4:43 PM ET
A decision on Simmonds isn't required until next off season IMO but it will be a big one. He has a modified NTC so trade options may be limited. Could still get a good return, but not much more than what Schenn just brought in. My mind tells me he's not a player you should give a 6 or 7 million 5+ year deal to but after another 30 goal season, you know some GMs will feel differently.

Giroux and Voracek are in it for the long haul. I would hope they can recognize that Hextall is doing what's best for the future of the team without tanking their hopes to remain competitive. I don't see the moves you mentioned as negatives and doubt they do either.

Elliot was brought into replace Mason because he's seen as a better fit. I agree he may not be as talented as Mason but he's had a much more successful career.

Schenn was traded because Hextall recognized he has numerous young players knocking on the door to replace what he brings. He capitalized on an asset's value.

Trading Streit for Fillpula was a move made in interest of being more competitive last season as well as this one.

- Baxter27


I'm not sure why you wouldn't want a 5 year deal for Simmonds at 29 years old? He's not going to crumble to dust the second he turns 30. I can also see him taking a discount.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 6 @ 4:49 PM ET
So where does everyone think Jagr lands? I was kinda bummed from an emotional standpoint to hear that Hexy passed on him, but I understand it.

Maybe go to Las Vegas for a year? They probably have the money and is another name they could market as a living legend.

- jmatchett383

I would hate to see him go back to Pittsburgh. Vegas seems to make sense.

I'm quite surprised no one has picked him up yet. He's far from garbage.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jul 6 @ 4:50 PM ET
I'm not sure why you wouldn't want a 5 year deal for Simmonds at 29 years old? He's not going to crumble to dust the second he turns 30. I can also see him taking a discount.
- SimmerDown17


May have to be big discount for a long term deal.He's going to be 31 when his next deal kicks in. I'm not sure you can take a big money long term risk with a player that age considering the stable of prospects Hextall has assembled. Shouldn't be a concern for a year or so though.
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