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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 6 @ 6:23 AM ET
he's not going to get any better

he should marry her

- homiedclown


Bad idea. Not with that tight dress and that giant glass of wine and those big silicone augmentations up front.

It won't be as long as you think before she's "a 1986 Ferrari". You know, something everyone looks at and says "Once upon a time I bet that was a hell of a ride, but these days I can't justify the costs of the maintenance."
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jul 6 @ 7:05 AM ET
Bad idea. Not with that tight dress and that giant glass of wine and those big silicone augmentations up front.

It won't be as long as you think before she's "a 1986 Ferrari". You know, something everyone looks at and says "Once upon a time I bet that was a hell of a ride, but these days I can't justify the costs of the maintenance."

- Der Kaiser

thats kind of what i was thinking.. but maybe he is down for the up keep and that is why he filed for arbitration so he had the extra dough.. the problem is you can only give an old car so many paint jobs before the rust starts to show through.. and when it does that cars value goes from high to very very low
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 6 @ 7:09 AM ET
Speaking of Beaulieu, his GF is a smokeshow.


- Pierceme69


Everything about her is fake lol ...

high maintenance
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 6 @ 7:12 AM ET
Everything about her is fake lol ...

high maintenance

- GERBE!!!75PTS


No wonder he's going to arb
Whatnot78
Buffalo Sabres
Location: last place heros, VA
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 6 @ 7:13 AM ET
thats kind of what i was thinking.. but maybe he is down for the up keep and that is why he filed for arbitration so he had the extra dough.. the problem is you can only give an old car so many paint jobs before the rust starts to show through.. and when it does that cars value goes from high to very very low
- IndianaSabresFan


with the proper maintenance, it can be a nice ride for many years though...
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 6 @ 7:14 AM ET
thats kind of what i was thinking.. but maybe he is down for the up keep and that is why he filed for arbitration so he had the extra dough.. the problem is you can only give an old car so many paint jobs before the rust starts to show through.. and when it does that cars value goes from high to very very low
- IndianaSabresFan


She's hot, he's young and loaded, bang em while you can. The key is finding a real woman by the time you're over these plastic (frank) dolls.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 6 @ 7:55 AM ET
She's hot, he's young and loaded, bang em while you can. The key is finding a real woman by the time you're over these plastic (frank) dolls.
- TheSabresTaco


The lease programs offer an ideal methodology of being able to drive a new car for a while, then turn it in for something a little newer and more up to date ...

Why buy??
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 6 @ 7:56 AM ET
The lease programs offer an ideal methodology of being able to drive a new car for a while, then turn it in for something a little newer and more up to date ...

Why buy??

- Der Kaiser

PS I drive a 2004 Volvo S80 with 103k Miles.
mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 6 @ 8:04 AM ET
So what's the odd's Larrson, Beaulieu and Lehner are all playing for the Sabres next season?
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 6 @ 8:10 AM ET
So what's the odd's Larrson, Beaulieu and Lehner are all playing for the Sabres next season?
- mattsox



99%.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if all 3 reached an agreement before their hearings.

Larsson isn't going to get much more than his qualifying offer, but when it's that low, not going to arbitration seems like a no-brainer. He can't really lose.

They just traded for Beaulieu, so neither has a body to really work an argument.

Lehner is the wild card, but he could stand to make some stupid money if he has a big year this year.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 6 @ 8:12 AM ET
So what's the odd's Larrson, Beaulieu and Lehner are all playing for the Sabres next season?
- mattsox



Ballieau yes

Lehner yes

Larsson maybe.
mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 6 @ 8:16 AM ET
Yeah, I'm not sure about Larsson unless they settle before arbitration. Even if they don't, I can't see him getting that much of a raise. He's a good bottom 6 player and I would like to see him healthy and in the mix.

I think Beaulieu is the lock. They just traded for him and they need D-Men.

Lehner is the wild card. I definitely agree with you there. Not sure how much the Sabres will pay him if it gets about 5M/year, if they go to arbitration.
Whatnot78
Buffalo Sabres
Location: last place heros, VA
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 6 @ 8:20 AM ET
PS I drive a 2004 Volvo S80 with 103k Miles.
- Der Kaiser


2006 Saturn Relay with 154K miles..
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 6 @ 8:27 AM ET
https://www.thescore.com/...lvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

lol
Whatnot78
Buffalo Sabres
Location: last place heros, VA
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 6 @ 8:30 AM ET
https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1329568?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

lol

- sbroads24


Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 6 @ 8:30 AM ET
hey larsson, here is your 900k



well we at the larsson camp feel we deserve a raise, say 1.5 per



again here is your 900k

(files for arbitration)

- homiedclown


So I am just trying to see it from Larssons side, but he has mostly been placed in non scoring position (penalty kill and defensive zone faceoffs, 4th line work) and he feels he should get more.

Example:
Folingo (over last 3 NHL years)
212 games 66 pts 0.31 pts/game

Larsson
149 games 44 points 0.295 pts/game

Not that far off. Now I know points are not the only way to value a players worth, but I think Larsson is worth more than $1mil / year. I mean, I wish we could get him signed for that, but he does have more value than that. I mean Folingo was $2.25 (and this year more?), so it only makes sense for him to try to get more during his prime playing years.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 6 @ 8:33 AM ET
https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1329568?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

lol

- sbroads24


I just saw that too, Eichel getting $13 / year? Hmm, interesting. Hope we dont have to pay that much to keep him, but I can see him asking for that but it is hard to make the case he deserves that at this point. I do think (secretly) Murray was putting him with weak linemates (I know he played with Rienhart and Kane towards the end) throughout his years here, to maybe keep his numbers lower. He should have played with Okposo for at least 1 5v5 shift over the last year but did not. If you get Eichel a decent sniper winger, his assists (and most likely goals) will go up quite a bit.

buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 6 @ 8:37 AM ET
So I am just trying to see it from Larssons side, but he has mostly been placed in non scoring position (penalty kill and defensive zone faceoffs, 4th line work) and he feels he should get more.

Example:
Folingo (over last 3 NHL years)
212 games 66 pts 0.31 pts/game

Larsson
149 games 44 points 0.295 pts/game

Not that far off. Now I know points are not the only way to value a players worth, but I think Larsson is worth more than $1mil / year. I mean, I wish we could get him signed for that, but he does have more value than that. I mean Folingo was $2.25 (and this year more?), so it only makes sense for him to try to get more during his prime playing years.

- Lilroot9


It's actually pretty easy to see it from Larsson's side. Arbitration is a tool he is afforded by the CBA. With his qualifying offer being so low, he'd be stupid not to employ it and see what sticks.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 6 @ 8:39 AM ET
I just saw that too, Eichel getting $13 / year? Hmm, interesting. Hope we dont have to pay that much to keep him, but I can see him asking for that but it is hard to make the case he deserves that at this point. I do think (secretly) Murray was putting him with weak linemates (I know he played with Rienhart and Kane towards the end) throughout his years here, to maybe keep his numbers lower. He should have played with Okposo for at least 1 5v5 shift over the last year but did not. If you get Eichel a decent sniper winger, his assists (and most likely goals) will go up quite a bit.
- Lilroot9

13 is impossible unless he waits a year, wins MVP, wins the cup, and the Conn Smythe.

He ain't getting more than McJesus.

Now, IMO his salary can be anywhere from 8.5 mil to 11.5 mil depending on if he signs now or waits a year
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 6 @ 8:43 AM ET
Based on comparables for save percentage, I don't see Lehner getting less than 4 mil
Whatnot78
Buffalo Sabres
Location: last place heros, VA
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 6 @ 8:45 AM ET
Based on comparables for save percentage, I don't see Lehner getting less than 4 mil
- jcragcrumple


I'm betting 5/yr...before arbitration
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 6 @ 8:46 AM ET
It's actually pretty easy to see it from Larsson's side. Arbitration is a tool he is afforded by the CBA. With his qualifying offer being so low, he'd be stupid not to employ it and see what sticks.
- buffalofan19


That is my opinion too. As much as I want him lower, it only makes sense for him to get the most he can. He does not care about the cap as much as we all do, hahaha
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 6 @ 8:49 AM ET
13 is impossible unless he waits a year, wins MVP, wins the cup, and the Conn Smythe.

He ain't getting more than McJesus.

Now, IMO his salary can be anywhere from 8.5 mil to 11.5 mil depending on if he signs now or waits a year

- sbroads24


I tend to agree. But if he holds at $13, we get kind of stuck. I mean, no way are we trading him or letting someone offer sheet him next spring. Not saying he would do it or he is "worth it", but you never know. I think if we get him a strong scoring winger, his numbers could go up considerably. I want him locked up before season starts so he cant ask for more and more. I think it will get done before the start of the season though.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 6 @ 8:49 AM ET
I'm betting 5/yr...before arbitration
- Whatnot78



Carey price career save percentage: .920
Lehner last year .920

Price just screwed the goalie market pricing
Whatnot78
Buffalo Sabres
Location: last place heros, VA
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 6 @ 8:52 AM ET
Carey price career save percentage: .920
Lehner last year .920

Price just screwed the goalie market pricing

- jcragcrumple


Much different track records though...and I wouldn't touch Price at $10mil/aav
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