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tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 4 @ 12:33 PM ET
I think Trading Hossa and his 6 million cap hit to reach the cap floor along with some picks and maybe a prospects would be enough to get Kovy. Then the Hawks sign him to 30 mill for 5 seasons something like that , could work. imagin that top 6!
- Dojodan

Would Stan Bowman be willing to part with a 1st and DeBrincat? Because would would the Devils just eat Hossa's 6 million dollar cap hit?
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jul 4 @ 12:40 PM ET
I said this in another post, but what's your guys' take on Savard in Columbus? Would that be a nice return? Vatanen would probably be the best prize to get out of the bunch, albeit he's signed for 3 years instead of Savard's 4.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 4 @ 12:47 PM ET
The value is great, but the Devils do have somewhat of a window here. Schneider isn't getting younger. Neither are Greene or Zajac. A more immediate solution would be preferred.
- willschulme


The picks might give us some flexibility to make a deal though. Don't know how many teams can spare a top 4 dman and still be a contender.
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: TERRACE LANCO, CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Jul 4 @ 12:49 PM ET
Answered your own question Todd. Look at WPG. Hawks don't have top-4 D to trade and their picks are typically mid-20's+.

Try LA perhaps for the picks. They'll be a lottery team.

- blackhawk24


LA and NJD might make sense, but not necessarily for Kovi. Martinez and Muzzin are under contract for a few more years on decent deals (4 years and 3 years, respectively, and both at 4mm AAV). If NJD took back the Gaborik contract (4 yrs at 4.875mm AAV) or Brown (5 yrs at 5.875mm AAV) along with one of Martinez or Muzzin, NJD could probably get that top 4 Dman for the price of a prospect (Quenneville?) and/or a pick. Brown can still play bottom 6 minutes. Gaborik, though, is done (unless you're really optimistic) and would functionally extend the Clowe zombie contract for another 3 years.

Happy 4th.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jul 4 @ 12:49 PM ET
I think Trading Hossa and his 6 million cap hit to reach the cap floor along with some picks and maybe a prospects would be enough to get Kovy. Then the Hawks sign him to 30 mill for 5 seasons something like that , could work. imagin that top 6!
- Dojodan


Cap floor is 55m. Devils are currently at 54.6m with a couple rfa's to sign. There are 0 teams who need to add a contract like Hossa's in order to reach the cap floor right now.
Tanuki
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.27.2010

Jul 4 @ 12:57 PM ET
Hawks fans being hawks fans. They think they can just give their poop players to other teams in fake trades and they think it's more then what they should be giving up. Kovy wo t be in a hawks uni anytime soon.
- KINGS67

Oh, good. The trade police has arrived.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 4 @ 12:57 PM ET
For Kovalchuk to return this season he requires a unanimous blessing from across the league... NOT HAPPENING.

Why would any team in the Central allow the Hawks to land Kovy?
Why would any team in the Metro allow the Devils to trade Kovy for a big return?
Why would any team allow a rival (division or not) to get better?
Kovy screwed over Lou, I doubt he's forgotten.
Etc etc etc...

The best the Devils can do is trade Ilya's rights and those will have conditions attached.

Kovalchuk's best option financially as well as choosing a team is to sit out this season and return in 2018/2019 when there will inevitably be a bidding war.

Sorry NJ, but the return for Kovalchuk will be minimal, if any.
NJDevsFan27
New Jersey Devils
Location: Red Bank, NJ
Joined: 07.02.2017

Jul 4 @ 1:02 PM ET
For Kovalchuk to return this season he requires a unanimous blessing from across the league... NOT HAPPENING.

Why would any team in the Central allow the Hawks to land Kovy?
Why would any team in the Metro allow the Devils to trade Kovy for a big return?
Why would any team allow a rival (division or not) to get better?
Kovy screwed over Lou, I doubt he's forgotten.
Etc etc etc...

The best the Devils can do is trade Ilya's rights and those will have conditions attached.

Kovalchuk's best option financially as well as choosing a team is to sit out this season and return in 2018/2019 when there will inevitably be a bidding war.

Sorry NJ, but the return for Kovalchuk will be minimal, if any.

- As_I_See_It


There's so much wrong about this i'm not really sure where to start.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 4 @ 1:02 PM ET
There goes yak to Colorado

After the Johanson trade taking a flier on him went away
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jul 4 @ 1:11 PM ET
Todd Cordell: On Kovalchuk and the Blackhawks
- Todd.Cordell

I could see taking hossa'a contract in a deal
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jul 4 @ 1:12 PM ET
I think Trading Hossa and his 6 million cap hit to reach the cap floor along with some picks and maybe a prospects would be enough to get Kovy. Then the Hawks sign him to 30 mill for 5 seasons something like that , could work. imagin that top 6!
- Dojodan

Devils have to sign him
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jul 4 @ 1:18 PM ET
There goes yak to Colorado

After the Johanson trade taking a flier on him went away

- dmarsden2988

Thank god
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jul 4 @ 1:24 PM ET
To NJD Trouba, Lemieux, 2018 2nd
To WPG Kovy, Moore, 2018 3rd
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 4 @ 1:24 PM ET
For Kovalchuk to return this season he requires a unanimous blessing from across the league... NOT HAPPENING.

Why would any team in the Central allow the Hawks to land Kovy?
Why would any team in the Metro allow the Devils to trade Kovy for a big return?
Why would any team allow a rival (division or not) to get better?
Kovy screwed over Lou, I doubt he's forgotten.
Etc etc etc...

The best the Devils can do is trade Ilya's rights and those will have conditions attached.

Kovalchuk's best option financially as well as choosing a team is to sit out this season and return in 2018/2019 when there will inevitably be a bidding war.

Sorry NJ, but the return for Kovalchuk will be minimal, if any.

- As_I_See_It


Did you just wake up from a coma or something?
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 4 @ 1:24 PM ET
To NJD Trouba, Lemieux, 2018 2nd
To WPG Kovy, Moore, 2018 3rd

- shvingter88


(frank) lemieux.
mcjags
New Jersey Devils
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 06.12.2007

Jul 4 @ 1:26 PM ET
To NJD Trouba, Lemieux, 2018 2nd
To WPG Kovy, Moore, 2018 3rd

- shvingter88

Winnipeg has no need for Kovy and Trouba is worth more than that.

Kovy would never go there anyway
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jul 4 @ 1:26 PM ET
For Kovalchuk to return this season he requires a unanimous blessing from across the league... NOT HAPPENING.

Why would any team in the Central allow the Hawks to land Kovy?
Why would any team in the Metro allow the Devils to trade Kovy for a big return?
Why would any team allow a rival (division or not) to get better?
Kovy screwed over Lou, I doubt he's forgotten.
Etc etc etc...

The best the Devils can do is trade Ilya's rights and those will have conditions attached.

Kovalchuk's best option financially as well as choosing a team is to sit out this season and return in 2018/2019 when there will inevitably be a bidding war.

Sorry NJ, but the return for Kovalchuk will be minimal, if any.

- As_I_See_It

You're retarded
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jul 4 @ 1:27 PM ET
(frank) lemieux.
- rmdevil313

Throwing him in just to shut all the "should have drafted Lemieux" guys up
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 4 @ 1:36 PM ET
For Kovalchuk to return this season he requires a unanimous blessing from across the league... NOT HAPPENING.

Why would any team in the Central allow the Hawks to land Kovy?
Why would any team in the Metro allow the Devils to trade Kovy for a big return?
Why would any team allow a rival (division or not) to get better?
Kovy screwed over Lou, I doubt he's forgotten.
Etc etc etc...

The best the Devils can do is trade Ilya's rights and those will have conditions attached.

Kovalchuk's best option financially as well as choosing a team is to sit out this season and return in 2018/2019 when there will inevitably be a bidding war.

Sorry NJ, but the return for Kovalchuk will be minimal, if any.

- As_I_See_It


Wrong, on just about every account.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 4 @ 1:37 PM ET
(frank) lemieux.
- rmdevil313



smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 4 @ 1:38 PM ET
Throwing him in just to shut all the "should have drafted Lemieux" guys up
- shvingter88



Can we get Provorov on a throw in too?
Gambi99
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 07.09.2007

Jul 4 @ 1:39 PM ET
I could see taking hossa'a contract in a deal
- shvingter88


I agree, I feel the only way Chicago and Devils make a trade is if we take back Hossa's contract but we should then get a decent (not crazy Devil fans) return.
Gambi99
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 07.09.2007

Jul 4 @ 1:43 PM ET
LA and NJD might make sense, but not necessarily for Kovi. Martinez and Muzzin are under contract for a few more years on decent deals (4 years and 3 years, respectively, and both at 4mm AAV). If NJD took back the Gaborik contract (4 yrs at 4.875mm AAV) or Brown (5 yrs at 5.875mm AAV) along with one of Martinez or Muzzin, NJD could probably get that top 4 Dman for the price of a prospect (Quenneville?) and/or a pick. Brown can still play bottom 6 minutes. Gaborik, though, is done (unless you're really optimistic) and would functionally extend the Clowe zombie contract for another 3 years.

Happy 4th.

- Only_A_Ladd


I would definitely look into that scenario. Not bad if Shero doesn't do anything else with the cap space.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jul 4 @ 1:43 PM ET
To NJD Trouba, Lemieux, 2018 2nd
To WPG Kovy, Moore, 2018 3rd

- shvingter88


Sold!
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jul 4 @ 1:44 PM ET
Throwing him in just to shut all the "should have drafted Lemieux" guys up
- shvingter88


I am, and it would. Although I like Q, and it was probably the right pick. M
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