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TwoPieceFeed
Detroit Red Wings
Location: HockeyTown
Joined: 08.13.2009

Jul 6 @ 12:22 PM ET
wyou clearly werent aware of the Oilers from 2007-2016
- Larsson_fan

Fixed...
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 6 @ 2:30 PM ET
Clearly you never played on a team before. Most of their success was because AS A GROUP they played well together. Sure Gudbranson and Kulkov sucked on their new teams. COOL. The fact that with them here, that group won the division for the first time ever and over 100 points for the first time ever and then they blow it up. Last year it was the D this year it was the O. Next year it will be the G. Luongo will be bought out once he can't stay on the ice this year and Reimer blows.

Vegas > Florida
Florida will be a lottery team this year.

Thanks for playing.

- BallardHitsHard22

I gotta agree, this is a good post.
PanthersGoal
Florida Panthers
Location: Coral Springs, FL
Joined: 08.21.2007

Jul 6 @ 2:38 PM ET
I gotta agree, this is a good post.
- Panthers88



Vegas over Florida? Lottery team?
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 6 @ 3:46 PM ET
Vegas over Florida? Lottery team?
- PanthersGoal

The Vegas > Florida is a stretch. But, right now, not a chance this roster competes for anything. They are not a playoff caliber team right now. So, yeah, I can see us being in the lottery conversation. The guys upstairs just are not sure what they want to do.
PanthersGoal
Florida Panthers
Location: Coral Springs, FL
Joined: 08.21.2007

Jul 6 @ 5:05 PM ET
The Vegas > Florida is a stretch. But, right now, not a chance this roster competes for anything. They are not a playoff caliber team right now. So, yeah, I can see us being in the lottery conversation. The guys upstairs just are not sure what they want to do.
- Panthers88



I don't think it's a bad team, except in goal. Reimer is not steady Lu is old.
harveykline
Joined: 09.01.2009

Jul 6 @ 5:10 PM ET
Does anyone believe the crap they fed us that Petrovic wanted a one yrr contract. To prove himself to new coach?
PanthersGoal
Florida Panthers
Location: Coral Springs, FL
Joined: 08.21.2007

Jul 6 @ 5:17 PM ET
Does anyone believe the crap they fed us that Petrovic wanted a one yrr contract. To prove himself to new coach?
- harveykline



No, I don't believe that one. Some deals in free agency though are the best ones that don't happen. If Tallon pulled off that trade with Vancouver to bring Gudbranson back, everyone would have thought it was the best free agency period for Panther fans..but would it have been?
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Jul 6 @ 6:26 PM ET
Fixed...
- TwoPieceFeed

Oh I am.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jul 7 @ 3:18 AM ET


They are going to miss Jagr.
BallardHitsHard22
Florida Panthers
Location: U.S, CA
Joined: 02.12.2009

Jul 7 @ 10:06 AM ET
I don't think it's a bad team, except in goal. Reimer is not steady Lu is old.
- PanthersGoal



This roster is set up for failure. Remember what happened to them when Huby got hurt? They needed a miracle and they got one from Marchassult. What thanks does he get? Oh just gets un protected and we lose him to Vegas. Tell me, who is going to step up when either Barkov trocheck and or Huby goes down this season? You really think Bjugstad is going to do anything? Who else? They dumped all our secondary talent on forward. At least last year we had some hope of turning it around. Sorry I have no faith in Dadonov. Neither do they since they gave up on him earlier in his career. Vrbata is 36 and declining. Why bring him in? Oh because it was cap friendly. GET it thru your head man.

They are in the business of losing. They don't want to build a winner or else we would have one by now. After a 103 point season they should have added a piece or two. Not blow up their chemestry. Now that team is long gone and they are basically in an on the fly rebuild at the moment.
harveykline
Joined: 09.01.2009

Jul 7 @ 11:37 AM ET
This roster is set up for failure. Remember what happened to them when Huby got hurt? They needed a miracle and they got one from Marchassult. What thanks does he get? Oh just gets un protected and we lose him to Vegas. Tell me, who is going to step up when either Barkov trocheck and or Huby goes down this season? You really think Bjugstad is going to do anything? Who else? They dumped all our secondary talent on forward. At least last year we had some hope of turning it around. Sorry I have no faith in Dadonov. Neither do they since they gave up on him earlier in his career. Vrbata is 36 and declining. Why bring him in? Oh because it was cap friendly. GET it thru your head man.

They are in the business of losing. They don't want to build a winner or else we would have one by now. After a 103 point season they should have added a piece or two. Not blow up their chemestry. Now that team is long gone and they are basically in an on the fly rebuild at the moment.

- BallardHitsHard22

We have been a joke for 20 yrs. no other team in the history of the nhl
would allow a 30 goal scorer under contract for minimal cost get picked in the expansion draft
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 7 @ 11:39 AM ET
Dale Tallon is killing Florida. Never thought I'd say that, but he's so angry about getting a pat on the head and an office job when they went full analytics that he's trying to undo everything Rowe was trying to build. Huge step back.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 7 @ 11:42 AM ET
50%? Really? What have those players done for the squads they've joined? If Demers accepted a trade to Van. Gudbranson would be back here (real valuable to Van), Kulikov I think is on his third team, Campbell is looking for a job, etc. You know less than shyt, and you're literally just a squawk box in adult diapers.
- PanthersGoal


Gudbranson, Kulikov, and Campbell all had brutal seasons (the first two were the worst players on their teams, Campbell got hate from Quenville). You're faaaaar better of for with Yandle, Demers, Pysyk, and McCann.
PanthersGoal
Florida Panthers
Location: Coral Springs, FL
Joined: 08.21.2007

Jul 8 @ 10:15 AM ET
Gudbranson, Kulikov, and Campbell all had brutal seasons (the first two were the worst players on their teams, Campbell got hate from Quenville). You're faaaaar better of for with Yandle, Demers, Pysyk, and McCann.
- Rexypoo



Obviously, not according to some of these geniuses. The 103 point team did need a fine tune and not a clean house. The biggest error came in letting Gallant go, not shedding some of the players they did. Plenty of ownership blame, just point it out accurately.
pantherfan12
Florida Panthers
Joined: 07.23.2008

Jul 9 @ 10:46 PM ET
Didn't the Panthers win the division in 2012?
pantherfan12
Florida Panthers
Joined: 07.23.2008

Jul 9 @ 10:53 PM ET
This roster is set up for failure. Remember what happened to them when Huby got hurt? They needed a miracle and they got one from Marchassult. What thanks does he get? Oh just gets un protected and we lose him to Vegas. Tell me, who is going to step up when either Barkov trocheck and or Huby goes down this season? You really think Bjugstad is going to do anything? Who else? They dumped all our secondary talent on forward. At least last year we had some hope of turning it around. Sorry I have no faith in Dadonov. Neither do they since they gave up on him earlier in his career. Vrbata is 36 and declining. Why bring him in? Oh because it was cap friendly. GET it thru your head man.

They are in the business of losing. They don't want to build a winner or else we would have one by now. After a 103 point season they should have added a piece or two. Not blow up their chemestry. Now that team is long gone and they are basically in an on the fly rebuild at the moment.

- BallardHitsHard22


Let's see.. Kulikov and Guds were going to command big paydays, and that's something they simply didn't deserve. As great as they played on our team that year, they weren't worth upwards of 4mil a year, and that's shown this past season ( yes, I know injuries played a part this past season)

As much of a question mark this coming season is going to be, I believe Tallon is doing the right thing. It's time for our youth to take the reigns and stop being baby-sat by stop-gaps. Yes, Dadanov, and Haapala may not work out, but if you look at their stats while overseas, they were dominant. If they can bring that over here, then we're in good shape. I like our coaching staff as well. As much as Gallant was somewhat of a fan favorite, I always had my issues with him smiling during an interview after we got our asses handed to us. I think Bougner will bring out the best in our team.

I still don't understand though. Why do you and Harveykline continually come onto these boards and bash the team and it's fans? Don't you guys have lives to live? I mean are the same people we see on Catfish, who have no real lives, and sit behind a computer screen all day f**king with people??
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 10 @ 11:50 AM ET
Didn't the Panthers win the division in 2012?
- pantherfan12

Yes, they won a flawed division in 2012.
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 10 @ 11:54 AM ET
Let's see.. Kulikov and Guds were going to command big paydays, and that's something they simply didn't deserve. As great as they played on our team that year, they weren't worth upwards of 4mil a year, and that's shown this past season ( yes, I know injuries played a part this past season)

As much of a question mark this coming season is going to be, I believe Tallon is doing the right thing. It's time for our youth to take the reigns and stop being baby-sat by stop-gaps. Yes, Dadanov, and Haapala may not work out, but if you look at their stats while overseas, they were dominant. If they can bring that over here, then we're in good shape. I like our coaching staff as well. As much as Gallant was somewhat of a fan favorite, I always had my issues with him smiling during an interview after we got our asses handed to us. I think Bougner will bring out the best in our team.

I still don't understand though. Why do you and Harveykline continually come onto these boards and bash the team and it's fans? Don't you guys have lives to live? I mean are the same people we see on Catfish, who have no real lives, and sit behind a computer screen all day f**king with people??

- pantherfan12

The team is surrounding themselves with so much "if this" and "if that", it won't be a successful season by any means. And please don't feed me the "well they did this in Europe..." crap. That's the argument they're using in order to sign European players and save money. The NHL is head fast churning towards another lockout, and it's one this team will not survive unless two or three consecutive playoff appearances, STARTING THIS SEASON, happens. And let me just tell you, there are not 8 teams in this LEAGUE let alone conference we match up against in a favorable light.
BallardHitsHard22
Florida Panthers
Location: U.S, CA
Joined: 02.12.2009

Jul 10 @ 6:56 PM ET
Let's see.. Kulikov and Guds were going to command big paydays, and that's something they simply didn't deserve. As great as they played on our team that year, they weren't worth upwards of 4mil a year, and that's shown this past season ( yes, I know injuries played a part this past season)

As much of a question mark this coming season is going to be, I believe Tallon is doing the right thing. It's time for our youth to take the reigns and stop being baby-sat by stop-gaps. Yes, Dadanov, and Haapala may not work out, but if you look at their stats while overseas, they were dominant. If they can bring that over here, then we're in good shape. I like our coaching staff as well. As much as Gallant was somewhat of a fan favorite, I always had my issues with him smiling during an interview after we got our asses handed to us. I think Bougner will bring out the best in our team.

I still don't understand though. Why do you and Harveykline continually come onto these boards and bash the team and it's fans? Don't you guys have lives to live? I mean are the same people we see on Catfish, who have no real lives, and sit behind a computer screen all day f**king with people??

- pantherfan12



I fought in a war. Did you?

I sacrificed my freedom for 3 years. Did you?

I've been watching this dysfunction since 93. granted I was only 6 at the time I loved the logo. Got hooked, then we went all the way to the cup finals in 96 I was 9 years old. Fast forward to today, they haven't won a playoff series since 96, and it doesn't look like they will in the near future.

Explain to me what you think. Do you honestly think this team is trending in the right direction? if you do then Please stop lying to yourself. They are the model for dysfunction. It's an ownership group that has lied and screwed over the best two hockey guys we've had in years (Tallon and Gallant) in favor of probably the worst person I've seen within this organization (Rowe) since Jacques Martin. I'm sure you have no clue who JM is since you've probably just started following this franchise.

Simply put, I bash this organization and the fans that believe in this lost cause because the proof is in the pudding. They never take 2 steps forward, it's always ok we are rebuilding we are going in the right direction and then BOOOOOM fucck you fans we are going to trade away your favorite players and start over because we have no patience and we hire a new coach every 1.8 years which is a disaster. Not to mention they change GM's almost every 4 years.
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Jul 10 @ 7:26 PM ET
I fought in a war. Did you?

I sacrificed my freedom for 3 years. Did you?

I've been watching this dysfunction since 93. granted I was only 6 at the time I loved the logo. Got hooked, then we went all the way to the cup finals in 96 I was 9 years old. Fast forward to today, they haven't won a playoff series since 96, and it doesn't look like they will in the near future.

Explain to me what you think. Do you honestly think this team is trending in the right direction? if you do then Please stop lying to yourself. They are the model for dysfunction. It's an ownership group that has lied and screwed over the best two hockey guys we've had in years (Tallon and Gallant) in favor of probably the worst person I've seen within this organization (Rowe) since Jacques Martin. I'm sure you have no clue who JM is since you've probably just started following this franchise.

Simply put, I bash this organization and the fans that believe in this lost cause because the proof is in the pudding. They never take 2 steps forward, it's always ok we are rebuilding we are going in the right direction and then BOOOOOM fucck you fans we are going to trade away your favorite players and start over because we have no patience and we hire a new coach every 1.8 years which is a disaster. Not to mention they change GM's almost every 4 years.

- BallardHitsHard22


I get a kick out of you military meatheads that think you should have your asses kissed.
" I invaded a country To protect the interests of my countries wealthy elite, give me respect!"

What do you call the so called war you participated in anyway?
BallardHitsHard22
Florida Panthers
Location: U.S, CA
Joined: 02.12.2009

Jul 11 @ 7:16 AM ET
I get a kick out of you military meatheads that think you should have your asses kissed.
" I invaded a country To protect the interests of my countries wealthy elite, give me respect!"

What do you call the so called war you participated in anyway?

- Larsson_fan



And I love ppl like you. Most of us come back and don't cope well with the fact that there are spoiled people like you who don't appreciate anything. Karma will come around because it sounds like you deserve a bullet in your head. I'll leave that up to the shine (frank)jng your wife.
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Jul 11 @ 8:30 AM ET
And I love ppl like you. Most of us come back and don't cope well with the fact that there are spoiled people like you who don't appreciate anything. Karma will come around because it sounds like you deserve a bullet in your head. I'll leave that up to the shine (frank)jng your wife.
- BallardHitsHard22

I deserve a bullet in my head?
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 11 @ 12:12 PM ET
And I love ppl like you. Most of us come back and don't cope well with the fact that there are spoiled people like you who don't appreciate anything. Karma will come around because it sounds like you deserve a bullet in your head. I'll leave that up to the shine (frank)jng your wife.
- BallardHitsHard22

You sound like you're pretty much (frank)ed up soldier. At least you know it, which means you can work on it... But to say what you did, doesn't quite cut it - not in a f'n hockey thread. I didn't fight in a war myself, but I was in the special forces for a year. Anyways... - Godspeed
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Jul 11 @ 2:15 PM ET
You sound like you're pretty much (frank)ed up soldier. At least you know it, which means you can work on it... But to say what you did, doesn't quite cut it - not in a f'n hockey thread. I didn't fight in a war myself, but I was in the special forces for a year. Anyways... - Godspeed
- 21peter

Yeah, he must Be PTSD, or just a terribly misguided sense of entitlement.
PanthersGoal
Florida Panthers
Location: Coral Springs, FL
Joined: 08.21.2007

Jul 11 @ 10:49 PM ET
Yes, they won a flawed division in 2012.
- Panthers88



That's a piss poor statement. You win, that's what counts.
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