We can't even get in the top 3 when we are last in the league.
- thundachunk

You haven't heard? We are trading for Taylor Hall.

You haven't heard? We are trading for Taylor Hall.
- rugdnit

Nice.

Your 100% is a tall order. I am saying it makes sense if they do it. Especially if players actually beat him out for a spot. DD is likely the new Higgins this season. How did that stop all these free agents from signing here?

DD is a legit NHL player and has great work ethic. His best value for Canucks is that he can lead Comets to playoffs. Where he is most effective to teach what it takes. There are not that many actual prospects on Comets that if DD takes a roster spot from Stewart it's not an issue.

WD was fired. Green was brought in under a new mandate. You should wake up to this and not be stuck in the past. Prospects will play not sit in the press box if called upon. Those not performing will get sent to Comets. The depth is there to be used.
- Nuck4U

The bolded is exactly why he won't be in the AHL. The bolded is why he made the NHL.

I think you are in for a shock if you think Travis Green is going to fill his 4th line with prospects and send down a "legit NHL player" instead

I was hesitant to listen but I am glad I did. He sounds like he knows what he is doing. I also like it when he said. "Why hasn't anybody taken Kole Lind?" Knows who he likes.
- thundachunk

yes he did a great job.

The bolded is exactly why he won't be in the AHL. The bolded is why he made the NHL.

I think you are in for a shock if you think Travis Green is going to fill his 4th line with prospects and send down a "legit NHL player" instead
- WhiteLie

Agreed. Some people don't realize that Green prefers vets, despite the fact he coached in the WHL and AHL.

Agreed. Some people don't realize that Green prefers vets, despite the fact he coached in the WHL and AHL.
- Nucker101

The biggest difference I am expecting between him and Willie is that prospects are put in roles that best suit their skills. So instead of seeing JV/Goldobin playings 4th line checking, they get put in the lineup when a top-6 or top-9 role becomes available.

Dorsett is expected to hit, grind, kill penalties etc. on the 4th line, pretty sure he will meet those expectations

Agreed. Some people don't realize that Green prefers vets, despite the fact he coached in the WHL and AHL.
- Nucker101

You want to go with your most experienced players. That shouldn't be the case if you have better players with less experience.

You want to go with your most experienced players. That shouldn't be the case if you have better players with less experience.
- thundachunk

No doubt, but in most cases the waiver exempt player has to really be a clear cut above or else the vet gets the benefit of the doubt. Nature of the league. Opposite of the NFL due to the beauty of guaranteed contracts.

The bolded is exactly why he won't be in the AHL. The bolded is why he made the NHL.

I think you are in for a shock if you think Travis Green is going to fill his 4th line with prospects and send down a "legit NHL player" instead
- WhiteLie

There are more then just prospects that will be fighting for a roster spot at camp. I put that part to say he's a good player. But so was Higgins. His use may be better served developing Comets. Is an option. Not a certainty. Unlike your saying that's 100% closed. The mentality of the rebuild and era of developing won't be WD fixed.

There will be real competition this season. Players, even DD, will have to earn it. Not just be a hard worker. But add to the development with speed, skill and scoring that Green will push.

You may be in for a shock that the season will have changes and different looks for players. DD's role will be another question mark. But keep being obstant with your emoji garbage and blind to common sense and possibilities.

You want to go with your most experienced players. That shouldn't be the case if you have better players with less experience.
- thundachunk

Better players with less experience that r consistent yes.
Thats generally not the case nor gains the confidence of a coach.

There are more then just prospects that will be fighting for a roster spot at camp. I put that part to say he's a good player. But so was Higgins. His use may be better served developing Comets. Is an option. Not a certainty. Unlike your saying that's 100% closed. The mentality of the rebuild and era of developing won't be WD fixed.

There will be real competition this season. Players, even DD, will have to earn it. Not just be a hard worker. But add to the development with speed, skill and scoring that Green will push.

You may be in for a shock that the season will have changes and different looks for players. DD's role will be another question mark. But keep being obstant with your emoji garbage and blind to common sense and possibilities.
- Nuck4U

Who will beat out DD on the 4th line doing what he does?
4th liners don't get the ice time & expected to put up offensive numbers.

Agreed. Some people don't realize that Green prefers vets, despite the fact he coached in the WHL and AHL.
- Nucker101

He had practically zero talent with prospects to work with. When he got JV he actually dedicated a lot of time to him. Development isn't all about handing out minutes in AHL. Green was brought in with development mandate. He will do that. Not saying vets like DD won't get their due. But they won't get a free pass. Competition and change will have more involved. Big picture stuff like what's best for the organization will be considered as well.

Sure Boucher will play. Rodin is faster if playing a speed game. They probably rotate in unless there are injuries. Both have a lot to prove and can add value for trades if they pay off.

My take on OJ is he is ready for next step of pros if he put on the weight and strength. Right now that seems to be happening. For camp a roster spot is open if he beats out Beiga and Pedan. Both would clear waivers and help development of Comets team.

The CHL won't challenge him as much next season then pro exposure in a sheltered capacity. It's not about being dominant in a league that's not how players of his type develop. He should play AHL but is barred. So believe spotting him minutes this season gets his pro feet wet. Next season he can play top AHL minutes and be ready for it if he's not ready for more in NHL.
- Nuck4U

theres already competition for a spot on D, so keep OJ where he is for 1 more season and that also gives time to move a D out for assets closer to the draft

Reports on draft day from Lebrun was that it was a 2nd round pick but Vegas caught wind VAN was passing on Glass and withdrew
- WhiteLie

yes a 2ND but when Makar got selected at 4 (who they wanted) they didnt need to move up anymore

There wasn't I was just pointing out that they were talking about trading down in one clip and in the next they are pointing out Peterson in the crowd and the next McFee is backing out.
- thundachunk

If Mcphee would alter his draft because of pointing at a prospect, then he's pretty easy to fool. The old "look over there" routine...

The biggest difference I am expecting between him and Willie is that prospects are put in roles that best suit their skills. So instead of seeing JV/Goldobin playings 4th line checking, they get put in the lineup when a top-6 or top-9 role becomes available.

Dorsett is expected to hit, grind, kill penalties etc. on the 4th line, pretty sure he will meet those expectations
- WhiteLie

You know what you get with him no doubt. But the new NHL is moving to more scoring and balanced lines.

He had practically zero talent with prospects to work with. When he got JV he actually dedicated a lot of time to him. Development isn't all about handing out minutes in AHL. Green was brought in with development mandate. He will do that. Not saying vets like DD won't get their due. But they won't get a free pass. Competition and change will have more involved. Big picture stuff like what's best for the organization will be considered as well.
- Nuck4U

He won't be as stubborn as WD, but pretty much all NHL coaches favour vets. It's not a coincidence that Green reportedly had a say in the Canucks free agency plans...he wanted more quality vets on the roster, especially on the PP.

Who will beat out DD on the 4th line doing what he does?
4th liners don't get the ice time & expected to put up offensive numbers.
- Nighthawk

That's the old thinking. New NHL is moving to speed and scoring on all 4 lines. Can't score. Can't compete.

There are more then just prospects that will be fighting for a roster spot at camp. I put that part to say he's a good player. But so was Higgins. His use may be better served developing Comets. Is an option. Not a certainty. Unlike your saying that's 100% closed. The mentality of the rebuild and era of developing won't be WD fixed.

There will be real competition this season. Players, even DD, will have to earn it. Not just be a hard worker. But add to the development with speed, skill and scoring that Green will push.

You may be in for a shock that the season will have changes and different looks for players. DD's role will be another question mark. But keep being obstant with your emoji garbage and blind to common sense and possibilities.
- Nuck4U

Derek Dorsett is a legit NHL player, if he is healthy he will be on the team. If he is not, he will be on LTIR. Aquillini will not pay him $2.65m for 2 years in the minors either so he can "mentor" down there

I went back and looked at your NHL roster again, who is killing penalties? Bo, Sutter and then who? Where is the depth if its Bo or Sutter that takes then penalty? Who on your lineup is going to throw a hit? I mean, I guess I don't want to be blind to possibilities so I'll say Henrik leads the team in hits this year. Don't tell me I am wrong though, because that would mean you're blind to possibilities...

He won't be as stubborn as WD, but pretty much all NHL coaches favour vets. It's not a coincidence that Green reportedly had a say in the Canucks free agency plans...he wanted more quality vets on the roster, especially on the PP.
- Nucker101

I thought the same thing, he probably feels the kids arent quite ready for those minutes

He won't be as stubborn as WD, but pretty much all NHL coaches favour vets. It's not a coincidence that Green reportedly had a say in the Canucks free agency plans...he wanted more quality vets on the roster, especially on the PP.
- Nucker101

Sure he doesn't want to have a losing environment. But as you see he won't be married to his vets like WD.

Plus for a soft team you need a good PP. That helps with development. It's good they made those moves. Can't burden the prospects to lead the change. But now they can be exposed to it and excel sheltered by those players.

That's the old thinking. New NHL is moving to speed and scoring on all 4 lines. Can't score. Can't compete.
- Nuck4U

There is still only 60mins in a game.
Where is this 4 deep balance u speak of coming from?


Using your analogy then rip off TOI from true scoring lines.

He had practically zero talent with prospects to work with. When he got JV he actually dedicated a lot of time to him. Development isn't all about handing out minutes in AHL. Green was brought in with development mandate. He will do that. Not saying vets like DD won't get their due. But they won't get a free pass. Competition and change will have more involved. Big picture stuff like what's best for the organization will be considered as well.
- Nuck4U

I remember listening to a Comets game mid/late season and it was the first time that JV had broke out of the 12 min range. The commentators said, "I hope JV is paying attention. Green is not known to give big minutes or important roles to young players and tonight he is on pace for 17 to 18 min."...

From professionals who watched Green every game and has inside contact with him, sounds like the kids are going to have to play above and beyond to earn their ice time. This isn't a bad thing but many people believe Green is going to be all about the kids. If this is the case, he'll be coaching out of his element according to his time in Utica. Not playing the kids had been mentioned by a couple of the writers at Canucks Army as well...

theres already competition for a spot on D, so keep OJ where he is for 1 more season and that also gives time to move a D out for assets closer to the draft
- SMBDragon

OJ put on 20 pounds of muscle. If he is the best player at the spot then play him, if not move him. I think the more time with Tanev the better for him.

Derek Dorsett is a legit NHL player, if he is healthy he will be on the team. If he is not, he will be on LTIR. Aquillini will not pay him $2.65m for 2 years in the minors either so he can "mentor" down there

I went back and looked at your NHL roster again, who is killing penalties? Bo, Sutter and then who? Where is the depth if its Bo or Sutter that takes then penalty? Who on your lineup is going to throw a hit? I mean, I guess I don't want to be blind to possibilities so I'll say Henrik leads the team in hits this year. Don't tell me I am wrong though, because that would mean you're blind to possibilities...
- WhiteLie

My only concern about Dorsett is health? Will he come back at 100%