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Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Jul 1 @ 11:32 AM ET
anyone who is questioning the Canucks rebuild with the acquisition of 27 year old "veteran" players.

The addition of these players not only provides time for the "kids" to develop in Utica, but also provide a good veteran presence when the kids do get the call up (injuries do happen). Jim Benning signing these players to low cap hits (3 mill for Del Zotto and Ganger) is extremely appealing to cup contending teams in the upcoming years. Essentially, when you sign decent players to cap friendly contracts as a rebuilding time, your hope is that they can provide a stop-gap, while hopefully bringing you assets in their final year of their contracts. The Gagner and Del Zotto trades are extremely good trades. If Burmistrov can get 10 goals but next years trade deadline, he could be a nice rental option for playoff teams.

- Codes1087




2 of the 4 signings are just replacing what was there last yr.

Del Zotto replaces Sbisa
Nillson replaces Miller

The only real additions are Gagner and Burmistrov. Good additions cause of the injuries
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 11:33 AM ET
I wish Utica was in Abby. Be worth going to some games in the coming years.
- storm88



I wish they were in Vancouver. I would pay to go see them . The Canucks not so much
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:33 AM ET
Well said
- CanuckDon


Thanks Donny. Not trying to pump JB's tires, but more so trying to bring some perspective on these signings. People I know will question the direction of a rebuild with these, but it really does make sense when you look at wanting kids to develop as opposed to rushing them.
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Jul 1 @ 11:34 AM ET
Perhaps he scores 25-30 this year and has trade value. He had the worst luck I've ever seen last year.
- CanuckDon


He will be better this yr. WD didn't play him right. Never had a consistent linemates.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:36 AM ET
in a perfect world, We would also sign someone like Dwight King. Have a 4th of Dwight King - Dorsett - Burmistrov.

To me, Gaunce would be best served playing with good players in Utica and picking up some offence.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jul 1 @ 11:37 AM ET
in a perfect world, We would also sign someone like Dwight King. Have a 4th of Dwight King - Dorsett - Burmistrov.

To me, Gaunce would be best served playing with good players in Utica and picking up some offence.

- Codes1087


Who knows how long Dorsett will last. Poor guy.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jul 1 @ 11:38 AM ET
in a perfect world, We would also sign someone like Dwight King. Have a 4th of Dwight King - Dorsett - Burmistrov.

To me, Gaunce would be best served playing with good players in Utica and picking up some offence.

- Codes1087


Playing on a beer league team in Dubai
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:39 AM ET
I like it. Gaunce, Chaput, Dorsett or Megna is not included.

From now on, everyone who posts potential line combos that includes Gaunce, is getting flagged and anthrax sent in the mail to them. Fair warning.

- Brooks_Light

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:40 AM ET
Playing on a beer league team in Dubai
- Brooks_Light


I am not as critical of his play like most on here. I think he played very well defensively last year. He was always in position. He hasn't really had offensive players in Utica when he was there. Valk and Archibald and Grenier and Zalewski were their "offensive" players. I think if we can send a bunch of kids down, including Gaunce, he might be able to pot some goals and get some confidence again.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 1 @ 11:41 AM ET
I wish they were in Vancouver. I would pay to go see them . The Canucks not so much
- VANTEL


I watch quite a few Kelowna Rocket's games, great entertainment. It also gives you a bit of insight on draft prospects.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jul 1 @ 11:42 AM ET
I haven't read too far back. Connor Brown for what?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:42 AM ET
Thanks Donny. Not trying to pump JB's tires, but more so trying to bring some perspective on these signings. People I know will question the direction of a rebuild with these, but it really does make sense when you look at wanting kids to develop as opposed to rushing them.
- Codes1087

It probably means Goblin, chaput, Virt, Magma and Dahlen will start in Utica which is awesome. The team has more depth and the kids can develop on a winning team in Utica.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:44 AM ET
Canucks Now‏ @CanucksNow 51s51 seconds ago

Replying to @CanucksNow
Gino Reda on Ryan Miller: "We believe Ryan Miller is going to Anaheim - 2 years, $4 million." #Canucks

- VANTEL

It's a good fit. Now Miller and Kesler can hug each other when they are dumped out of the PO's next year.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 1 @ 11:44 AM ET
anyone who is questioning the Canucks rebuild with the acquisition of 27 year old "veteran" players.

The addition of these players not only provides time for the "kids" to develop in Utica, but also provide a good veteran presence when the kids do get the call up (injuries do happen). Jim Benning signing these players to low cap hits (3 mill for Del Zotto and Ganger) is extremely appealing to cup contending teams in the upcoming years. Essentially, when you sign decent players to cap friendly contracts as a rebuilding time, your hope is that they can provide a stop-gap, while hopefully bringing you assets in their final year of their contracts. The Gagner and Del Zotto trades are extremely good trades. If Burmistrov can get 10 goals but next years trade deadline, he could be a nice rental option for playoff teams.

- Codes1087

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SKakDi319UI

And no I'm not biased against you, *new disclaimer*
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:44 AM ET
It probably means Goblin, chaput, Virt, Magma and Dahlen will start in Utica which is awesome. The team has more depth and the kids can develop on a winning team in Utica.
- CanuckDon


I have a feeling Chaput will be looking to sign with a team where he thinks he can play in the NHL. Ideally Canucks sign him to a two-way contract, but I think he walks. Virtanen, Megan, Dahlen, Goldobin, possibly Boeser, Chatfield, Brisebois, Molino all in Utica is EXACTLY what we need.
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Jul 1 @ 11:44 AM ET
I watch quite a few Kelowna Rocket's games, great entertainment. It also gives you a bit of insight on draft prospects.
- VanHockeyGuy


I saw them a couple times in Langley. I have seasons to the Giants. They were an entertaining team.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:45 AM ET
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SKakDi319UI

And no I'm not biased against you, *new disclaimer*

- Makita



VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 11:48 AM ET
Should Canucks go after Franson seeing Demers fell through?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:48 AM ET
I have a feeling Chaput will be looking to sign with a team where he thinks he can play in the NHL. Ideally Canucks sign him to a two-way contract, but I think he walks. Virtanen, Megan, Dahlen, Goldobin, possibly Boeser, Chatfield, Brisebois, Molino all in Utica is EXACTLY what we need.
- Codes1087

Doubtful Boeser will se any time in Utica. Some shrewd moves by Benning it appears but I am concerned about Gagner...
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:49 AM ET
Should Canucks go after Franson seeing Demers fell through?
- VANTEL

If Benning can move Tanev for sure go after Franson.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 1 @ 11:49 AM ET
I saw them a couple times in Langley. I have seasons to the Giants. They were an entertaining team.
- SMP8719


The whole league is great value and entertaining. WHL games are great as well. Seeing these kids bust their asses verses some of the crap we see with the Canucks.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:49 AM ET
Doubtful Boeser will se any time in Utica. Some shrewd moves by Benning it appears but I am concerned about Gagner...
- LordHumungous


I think Gagner is essentially Jim Benning's version of Hansen. Can play top 6, bottom 6. I am not really sure either where he fits either.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 1 @ 11:50 AM ET
If Benning can move Tanev for sure go after Franson.
- LordHumungous


May still happen.
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:52 AM ET
Heard this morn that we are probably picking up Nilsson/Gagner/MDZ and Burmistrov... honestly if all these deals are cheap and short term they really aren't that bad, we could really squeeze some offence out of these guys.
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:53 AM ET
Doubtful Boeser will se any time in Utica. Some shrewd moves by Benning it appears but I am concerned about Gagner...
- LordHumungous


I'm not a huge fan either, but I'm hoping it means we can move on from Sutter, I'm definitely okay with Gagner playing 3c. Especially with Wingers like Boeser/Baertschi etc that he can set up.
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