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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 28 @ 11:33 PM ET
Gagner put up 50... Boucher defintely won't and Rodin almost certainly wont (at least not this year)

I don't think we need him at the money/term he'll end up at though

- BobBot



Yup i agree 👍
WelfareWerewolf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 10.08.2015

Jun 28 @ 11:34 PM ET
Whenever the argument about tanking comes up, I just think about the year the Avs had.

That situation has become extremely toxic. Almost entirely because they suck. Players want to win, and at the very least, be able to compete every night. Even if we can't make it to 30 wins, a 4-3 loss is very different to a 7-1 blowout er'night.

If the Canucks had a season that bad it would be complete and utter turmoil, Bo and Brock would want out and then we'd be boned forever.

- BobBot



Logic and reason? Keep posting, would be a nice change of pace

The most logical human ever........
BobBot
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.17.2017

Jun 28 @ 11:34 PM ET
That is a country club?
- Nighthawk


I'm not sure I would use that term. Never really agreed with it. Vets get comfy on every team man.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 28 @ 11:35 PM ET
i mean the shuffling thing works in principle, though might be a bit much to manage, and you also have to consider having kids develop with some stability.

but in reality anything and everything will happen and we'll be forced into shuffling anyway

- BobBot


Agree again if the past 2 years happpen again & it will IMO
BobBot
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.17.2017

Jun 28 @ 11:36 PM ET
Logic and reason? Keep posting, would be a nice change of pace

The most logical human ever........

- WelfareWerewolf


dont speak too soon
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jun 28 @ 11:40 PM ET
I believe it was Lefty who agreed with me on the Draisaitl comment, not sure if any was a forward enough thinker to support me on the Utica shuffle idea.
- Reubenkincade



Yeah offer sheet is all yours ....it's a big gamble cause price for acceptance would probably cost 4 1st rounders.

The Comet shuffle for next season I have been talking about since TDL. Glad you agree
WelfareWerewolf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 10.08.2015

Jun 28 @ 11:42 PM ET
dont speak too soon
- BobBot



I know how it works around here........
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jun 28 @ 11:45 PM ET
Whenever the argument about tanking comes up, I just think about the year the Avs had.

That situation has become extremely toxic. Almost entirely because they suck. Players want to win, and at the very least, be able to compete every night. Even if we can't make it to 30 wins, a 4-3 loss is very different to a 7-1 blowout er'night.

If the Canucks had a season that bad it would be complete and utter turmoil, Bo and Brock would want out and then we'd be boned forever.

- BobBot


Good points need to be competitive to develop and build.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 28 @ 11:47 PM ET
Yeah offer sheet is all yours ....it's a big gamble cause price for acceptance would probably cost 4 1st rounders.

The Comet shuffle for next season I have been talking about since TDL. Glad you agree

- Nuck4U


Ya I think you road on my coat tails on that ...but sure you can take the credit .. because I really don't care. I come here to talk hockey and have an occasional rant, not looking for accolades, just like the fun.... and the hysteria.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 29 @ 12:02 AM ET
Whenever the argument about tanking comes up, I just think about the year the Avs had.

That situation has become extremely toxic. Almost entirely because they suck. Players want to win, and at the very least, be able to compete every night. Even if we can't make it to 30 wins, a 4-3 loss is very different to a 7-1 blowout er'night.

If the Canucks had a season that bad it would be complete and utter turmoil, Bo and Brock would want out and then we'd be boned forever.

- BobBot


well said Mr Bot.
Tend to agree.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jun 29 @ 12:04 AM ET
Ya I think you road on my coat tails on that ...but sure you can take the credit .. because I really don't care. I come here to talk hockey and have an occasional rant, not looking for accolades, just like the fun.... and the hysteria.
- Reubenkincade


It's what we all do best
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jun 29 @ 12:10 AM ET
Gagner put up 50... Boucher defintely won't and Rodin almost certainly wont (at least not this year)

I don't think we need him at the money/term he'll end up at though

- BobBot


Yeah giving a pay day to Gagner to fix the PP won't turn out good. Plus those 50 points he got was on top rated CBJ PP and playing limited minutes. It wouldn't translate to low scoring group of Canucks. So Boucher and Rodin as unproven commodities could emulate effect without cost or risk.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 12:18 AM ET
Yeah giving a pay day to Gagner to fix the PP won't turn out good. Plus those 50 points he got was on top rated CBJ PP and playing limited minutes. It wouldn't translate to low scoring group of Canucks. So Boucher and Rodin as unproven commodities could emulate effect without cost or risk.
- Nuck4U


agreed. stay away from ganger. he is what he is. I'd pay for Weal. a little more dollar for a 3 year deal. we can handle it.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 29 @ 12:21 AM ET
i mean the shuffling thing works in principle, though might be a bit much to manage, and you also have to consider having kids develop with some stability.

but in reality anything and everything will happen and we'll be forced into shuffling anyway

- BobBot

check out the new guy! your shuffling talk is elite
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jun 29 @ 12:40 AM ET
Some perspective on the UFA vs prospect debate for 2017 opening roster.

October 2016 line up .............2017 options UFA or prospect

Sedins LE
Granlund Sutter Hansen...........Weal/Yak/? Or Goldy/BB
Sven BO JV
Burr Gaunce DD ...................whole sale change? Grigo/Boucher/Rodin/?

Edler Tanev
Hutton Guddy
Sbisa Stecher......................Kulikov/Nest/? Or OJ

The lines or pairings can be mixed up. It's just showing what the missing or must have replacements are and the options. I left JV in for 2017 cause he should be ready. Anyone can fill in ? options with a player they like added.
Left out the extras as that can be any of the signed players.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 29 @ 1:09 AM ET
Some perspective on the UFA vs prospect debate for 2017 opening roster.

October 2016 line ups .............2017 options UFA or prospect

Sedins LE
Granlund Sutter Hansen...........Weal/Yak/? Or Goldy/BB
Sven BO JV
Burr Gaunce DD ...................whole sale change? Grigo/Boucher/Rodin/?

Edler Tanev
Hutton Guddy
Sbisa Stecher......................Kulikov/Nest/? Or OJ

The lines or pairings can be mixed up it's just showing what the missing must have replacements and options. I left JV in for 2017 cause he should be ready.
Anyone can fill in ? Options with player they like added.
Left out the extras as that can be any of the signed players.

- Nuck4U
I am not even going to guess what the roster will look like. The best part of this will be training camp and who will come out on top to make the team.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Jun 29 @ 1:10 AM ET
Some perspective on the UFA vs prospect debate for 2017 opening roster.

October 2016 line ups .............2017 options UFA or prospect

Sedins LE
Granlund Sutter Hansen...........Weal/Yak/? Or Goldy/BB
Sven BO JV
Burr Gaunce DD ...................whole sale change? Grigo/Boucher/Rodin/?

Edler Tanev
Hutton Guddy
Sbisa Stecher......................Kulikov/Nest/? Or OJ

The lines or pairings can be mixed up it's just showing what the missing must have replacements and options. I left JV in for 2017 cause he should be ready.
Anyone can fill in ? Options with player they like added.
Left out the extras as that can be any of the signed players.

- Nuck4U

do you have to be so smart?
















CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 29 @ 1:10 AM ET
Ive been saying that same thing for 2-3 years

Dont know why anyone even wants him here with his defensive issues.

Another thing Ive suggested for years now is he should convert to wing since he actually plays like a winger and he'll actually have a shot at nhl then

- SMBDragon

It's his name...and I agree, love to try the kid on the wing. He has some skill but he is short and has a slight frame.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 29 @ 1:17 AM ET
It's his name...and I agree, love to try the kid on the wing. He has some skill but he is short and has a slight frame.
- CanuckDon

He'll get his shot. Camp will be the most competitive for defence in many years.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 29 @ 1:19 AM ET
Whenever the argument about tanking comes up, I just think about the year the Avs had.

That situation has become extremely toxic. Almost entirely because they suck. Players want to win, and at the very least, be able to compete every night. Even if we can't make it to 30 wins, a 4-3 loss is very different to a 7-1 blowout er'night.

If the Canucks had a season that bad it would be complete and utter turmoil, Bo and Brock would want out and then we'd be boned forever.

- BobBot

Well said new guy
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 29 @ 1:21 AM ET
He'll get his shot. Camp will be the most competitive for defence in many years.
- thundachunk

I'm not a bigot
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 29 @ 1:31 AM ET


thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 29 @ 1:33 AM ET
I'm not a bigot
- CanuckDon

Liar.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jun 29 @ 1:40 AM ET
well said Mr Bot.
Tend to agree.

- dbot

right....tanking is idiotic. It will destroy a team
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 29 @ 1:42 AM ET
Liar.
- thundachunk

You have always been able to see right through me
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