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21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 29 @ 8:13 AM ET
I think with the Rangers signing of Chris Nell it didn't really make sense for the Rangers to sign another college goalie, along with the thousand goalie prospects they have already

probably not an attractive place for Peterson to come to either

Hartford this coming season is going to be Halverson and Nell

- jimbo83

and Skapski 'retired' from the NHL with a 2-0-0, 1 SO, 0.50 GAA and a .978 SV%
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 29 @ 8:20 AM ET
True also, but maybe that's why Roy really departed.
- RangerSaver

When Roy left, pretty sure he said it was because he didn't agree with Sakic's decisions and vision moving forward
evitageN
New York Rangers
Location: Do you smell what The Rock is cooking?
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 29 @ 8:34 AM ET
this calls for a celebration! I'll get some donuts

I just watched Midnight Run and the mole at the Bail Bonds place says that, I think thats the funniest line

- jimbo83


Yeah got a notification on facebook that we've been friends on there Jimmy for 7 years. Crazy how time flies!
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 29 @ 8:47 AM ET
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Jun 29 @ 9:09 AM ET
Ansar Khan‏ @AnsarKhanMLive 11h11 hours ago

#RedWings have signed defensemen Brian Lashoff and Dylan McIlrath to 2-year deals. Two-way contracts, $650,000. #griffins
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 29 @ 9:09 AM ET
There's no guarantee that Deangelo's lesser minutes played games would be of any benefit here. It is also known that he has his own troubles defensively like Shatty does at times. But at least Shatty has proven much better for a lot longer what he does best offensively to help his team win, while playing full time minutes.
Shatty would also be partnered with McDonagh to make a top NHL 1st line pairing. As a result, McDonagh would be relied on somewhat less in carrying the play offensively from the back line up, including at times on the power play. Shatty's presence would also lower both McDonagh's ice time & stressful minutes played slightly, which would keep him fresher later in the season & thereafter.
In addition, Deangelo must also fully mature in life off the ice, for which only he has total control of, if he wishes to do so. Even if successful, a Shatty signing is still currently the best available offensive option needed for their 1st unit right side spot on a regular full time game basis.

- RangerSaver


this!
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 29 @ 9:10 AM ET
like if Jay Mohr and Latka had a baby


- jimbo83

puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 29 @ 9:12 AM ET
for all the people who keep bringing up Shattenkirk's issues defensively

HE WILL PLAY WITH EITHER MCDONAGH OR SKJEI it would be fine.

stop trying to talk yourselves into reasons why you don't want him, if you don't want a 7 year deal given out to a 28 year old defenseman, just stick with that

- jimbo83


And This!
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 29 @ 9:16 AM ET
Ansar Khan‏ @AnsarKhanMLive 11h11 hours ago

#RedWings have signed defensemen Brian Lashoff and Dylan McIlrath to 2-year deals. Two-way contracts, $650,000. #griffins

- jimbo83

That's good news for Wrath. And for a two-way deal, it's ok money for him - $275k guaranteed
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 29 @ 9:21 AM ET
Ansar Khan‏ @AnsarKhanMLive 11h11 hours ago

#RedWings have signed defensemen Brian Lashoff and Dylan McIlrath to 2-year deals. Two-way contracts, $650,000. #griffins

- jimbo83

Next great player in Detroit.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 29 @ 9:23 AM ET
Updated RFA compensation via CapFriendly.

eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 29 @ 9:25 AM ET
Updated RFA compensation via CapFriendly.


- tomburton99

Is that note at the bottom new? Or has that always been the deal? "The AAV is determined by the lesser of either A) The number of years offered or B) 5 years"?

So really it doesn't even logically make sense to offer more than 5 years because you'll end up with a higher-than-reality AAV.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 29 @ 9:25 AM ET
Went downhill after Roy left.
- tomburton99

Wtf, Roy created this mess, his involvement set the franchise back years, when he couldn't keep burning it to the ground he pouted and left
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 29 @ 9:27 AM ET
Wtf, Roy created this mess, his involvement set the franchise back years, when he couldn't keep burning it to the ground he pouted and left
- DDM-Coga

True, but he got a team to the playoffs. He had a good and bad impact.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 29 @ 9:28 AM ET
Wtf, Roy created this mess, his involvement set the franchise back years, when he couldn't keep burning it to the ground he pouted and left
- DDM-Coga

tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 29 @ 9:28 AM ET
Is that note at the bottom new? Or has that always been the deal? "The AAV is determined by the lesser of either A) The number of years offered or B) 5 years"?

So really it doesn't even logically make sense to offer more than 5 years because you'll end up with a higher-than-reality AAV.

- eichiefs9

Somebody needs to call the Oilers bluff.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 29 @ 9:30 AM ET
@gabrielletf 6m6 minutes ago
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SKA St Petersburg president says the club in talks today with Ilya Kovalchuk about possible contract extension:
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 29 @ 9:33 AM ET
Somebody needs to call the Oilers bluff.
- tomburton99

That caveat makes it kinda hard.

If you offered him 8 years and $62,815,576 (a true AAV of $7,851,947) which should cost the offering-team 1 first, 1 second, and 1 third, it would actually cost 4 first round picks because you'd have to divide that by 5 years, instead of 8.

That completely deters a team from being able to make a realistic offer.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 29 @ 9:33 AM ET
@gabrielletf 6m6 minutes ago
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SKA St Petersburg president says the club in talks today with Ilya Kovalchuk about possible contract extension:

- tomburton99

Good, keep him away from Columbus.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 29 @ 9:33 AM ET
Next great player in Detroit.
- tomburton99

classy like always
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 29 @ 9:36 AM ET
Good, keep him away from Columbus.
- eichiefs9

I think he'd be good in Columbus. Bobrovksy has been good, with Panarin there now. I don't hate that move.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 29 @ 9:36 AM ET
classy like always
- 21peter

I learned from the best.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 29 @ 9:37 AM ET
True, but he got a team to the playoffs. He had a good and bad impact.
- tomburton99


No a .930 varly got them to the playoffs after being out shot everybody game. That year was a curse either how things are now
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Jun 29 @ 9:38 AM ET
@gabrielletf 6m6 minutes ago
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SKA St Petersburg president says the club in talks today with Ilya Kovalchuk about possible contract extension:

- tomburton99


I'd love to get all the minutes of my life back I wasted hearing about where Kovalchuk is going to go in league when he comes back
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 29 @ 9:39 AM ET
I think he'd be good in Columbus. Bobrovksy has been good, with Panarin there now. I don't hate that move.
- tomburton99

Yeah, he'd be great in Columbus. That's why I want him to stay the (frank) away from there.
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