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cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 28 @ 10:54 PM ET
Shattenkirk turned down a 42 mill offer from the Bolts in January.
- SABRES 89


Maybe he hates hot weather
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:57 PM ET
At first I hated the idea of signing the past tense of poop(shat).

But at 28, for 7 years at 7 million, his contract ends when he is 35, which is honestly a good duration and end.

However, its the same problem as with ROR. You sign a guy at 28 who I doubt he gets us over the hump and you waste a good 2 years of his prime with the current state of the team, which, IMO, is still missing the playoffs for the foreseeable future .

At 35, defenseman either fall off the face of the planet, or they find a way to play in a league where 90% of the opposition is faster. At this point you either get smarter from your experience or have to learn angles and anticipate things, or in other words, dictate the play.

- BeadyEyedDouche


but with him added to the backend and maybe a 3 line center and one good PK do you miss the playoffs? I could see us signing Bonino... and the increased speed would surely (I know dont call you Shirley) help the PK...
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:58 PM ET
Maybe he hates hot weather
- cabin

Or his head can't make it through the door.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:58 PM ET
Shattenkirk turned down a 42 mill offer from the Bolts in January.
- SABRES 89


well he is from NY...
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 28 @ 10:58 PM ET
Or his head can't make it through the door.
- SABRES 89



Good point taken.
But his puck makes it to the back of the net.
PassionBucket16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schopp Sucks, NY
Joined: 12.26.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:00 PM ET
At first I hated the idea of signing the past tense of poop(shat).

But at 28, for 7 years at 7 million, his contract ends when he is 35, which is honestly a good duration and end.

However, its the same problem as with ROR. You sign a guy at 28 who I doubt he gets us over the hump and you waste a good 2 years of his prime with the current state of the team, which, IMO, is still missing the playoffs for the foreseeable future.

At 35, defenseman either fall off the face of the planet, or they find a way to play in a league where 90% of the opposition is faster. At this point you either get smarter from your experience or have to learn angles and anticipate things, or in other words, dictate the play.

- BeadyEyedDouche


O'Reilly isn't even 28 right now so it isn't the same.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:02 PM ET
O'Reilly isn't even 28 right now so it isn't the same.
- PassionBucket16



agreed, ROR is only 26 now....
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 28 @ 11:03 PM ET
Ok buds. off to bed . Workin on a HB get together for preseason at my house .

will keep an update. Gotta time it with the out of towners
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Jun 28 @ 11:07 PM ET
TheFourthPeriod.com
The Toronto Maple Leafs are among the teams highly interested in defenseman Kevin Shattenkirk, who can hit the open market as an unrestricted free agent July 1.
The Leafs, along with the New York Rangers, Buffalo Sabres and New Jersey Devils, are among the teams in pursuit of Shattenkirk.

- SABRES 89


Nooooooooooooooooooo
Jammerz04
Buffalo Sabres
Location: K, BC
Joined: 01.03.2014

Jun 28 @ 11:17 PM ET
At first I hated the idea of signing the past tense of poop(shat).

But at 28, for 7 years at 7 million, his contract ends when he is 35, which is honestly a good duration and end.

However, its the same problem as with ROR. You sign a guy at 28 who I doubt he gets us over the hump and you waste a good 2 years of his prime with the current state of the team, which, IMO, is still missing the playoffs for the foreseeable future .

At 35, defenseman either fall off the face of the planet, or they find a way to play in a league where 90% of the opposition is faster. At this point you either get smarter from your experience or have to learn angles and anticipate things, or in other words, dictate the play.
- BeadyEyedDouche


Sabres will be challenging for a playoff spot next year.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 28 @ 11:20 PM ET
Is blade runner a good movie ? Made a sequel so Im thinking about watching it
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 28 @ 11:21 PM ET
Is blade runner a good movie ? Made a sequel so Im thinking about watching it
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Original is a good movie n.Nothng exciting
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 28 @ 11:21 PM ET
Sabres will be challenging for a playoff spot next year.
- Jammerz04



Depends what moves we make ..Right now zero chance I say
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 28 @ 11:24 PM ET
Original is a good movie n.Nothng exciting
- cabin


I see it came out in the 80's I usually stay away from very old movies
But many people are talking about this new Blade Runner movie

I might have to watch it..

Is it like A James Bond ,
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:25 PM ET
I may be in the minority here, but I hope we land Shatty. Good for 40-50 points, still young, amazing wheels. Had a bad playoff. Has proven in the past that he's a good defenceman.

If Botterill thinks he can make it work, then I'm for it.

- Powerslave




For 6-7mil... that's way too much for 2nd pair defenseman
Especially one who plays poorly in his own end
Would be a horrible signing
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:30 PM ET
Nooooooooooooooooooo
- Matthews_Auston



He's all yours!
Take him, take him, take him
Spend that 7mil per

I'll have a blast watching Eichel & company eat him alive
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 28 @ 11:31 PM ET
For 6-7mil... that's way too much for 2nd pair defenseman
Especially one who plays poorly in his own end
Would be a horrible signing

- jdfitz77

Yet we'd pay Kane, a 2nd line forward who averages less points per year as a forward than Shattenkirk does as a D man, 6 mil and that's fine and we'd make it fit?

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:31 PM ET
Is blade runner a good movie ? Made a sequel so Im thinking about watching it
- GERBE!!!75PTS



It is
But it's an older SciFi movie,
so it's not as fast paced or action packed as the movies today

U might be bored by it
bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Jun 28 @ 11:32 PM ET
"The Shatt " is not coming to Buffalo, his agent is using Pegula's deep pockets to drive up the price. We are already better on D than we were last year, and don't need his 7 for 7 deal.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:34 PM ET
For 6-7mil... that's way too much for 2nd pair defenseman
Especially one who plays poorly in his own end
Would be a horrible signing

- jdfitz77



Double digit goal totals and 30+ assists every year says different.

He had a bad playoff, and can struggle in his own end at times, but so did Ray Bourque (not comparing, just saying).

Guess we'll find out Saturday.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 28 @ 11:35 PM ET
Yet we'd pay Kane, a 2nd line forward who averages less points per year as a forward than Shattenkirk does as a D man, 6 mil and that's fine and we'd make it fit?
- sbroads24


Hero Chart game. All out of 10 but i think you already know that

player X:

ice time:7 Goals:5 First A:7 Shot Gen:6 Shot Sup: 5

Player Y:

ice time: 6 Goals: 4 First A: 6 Shot Gen: 6 Shot Sup: 7


both players received identical zone starts

Player X also has an edge in total passes, but Player Y has the edge in shot volume


Who are the two players?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:37 PM ET
Yet we'd pay Kane, a 2nd line forward who averages less points per year as a forward than Shattenkirk does as a D man, 6 mil and that's fine and we'd make it fit?
- sbroads24



We could fit Shattenkirk & Kane...
I just don't want Shattenkirk

What u say about him offensively is true
But his PP effectiveness will be limited with us on PP2
And he's terrible defensively

In all the Shatty debates I've had on here...
everyone tries to tell me he's "good" defensively

Well if that's true...
then why is it that he's ALWAYS the worst on his team +/- usually by a fairly wide margin- compared to the rest of the defensemen on his team?
And...
he even gets something like 60% offensive zone starts, right?
Shouldn't that help his +/- stats?!!!
But he's still far worse than Jbo, Alex P, etc etc etc


Tell me how that's possible if he's actually "good" defensively
doppelthat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 28 @ 11:37 PM ET
Maybe he hates hot weather
- cabin


The weather is downright dreadful here. 2 good months out of the year, the rest of the time it's overly humid and hot. Hopefully soon enough I will be able to move out of the area where America goes to die.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:37 PM ET
"The Shatt " is not coming to Buffalo, his agent is using Pegula's deep pockets to drive up the price. We are already better on D than we were last year, and don't need his 7 for 7 deal.
- bobmack13



As much as I'd like the player to come here, I'd laugh if that backfired on him.

"Buffalo's offering 7 for 7? Yeah, too rich for our blood. Good luck in WNY"

"WAIT! But..."

(Your move Shatty).
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 28 @ 11:38 PM ET
Hero Chart game.

player X:

ice time:7 Goals:5 First A:7 Shot Gen:6 Shot Sup: 5

Player Y:

ice time: 6 Goals: 4 First A: 6 Shot Gen: 6 Shot Sup: 7


both players received identical zone starts

Player X also has an edge in total passes, but Player Y has the edge in shot volume


Who are the two players?

- Sabresfan-365

Shattenkirk
Demers
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