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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 28 @ 9:51 PM ET
I think the bigger point is that if he wanted Shattenkirk, he could find a way to make it work and still manage the cap. How much he wants him, however, remains to be seen.

Side note: they were talking on Sirius XM today about how a $13 million deal for McDavid would put him at about 17% of the Oilers' cap. That was about the same percentage of the cap as Crosby made up when he signed his deal. The notion that McDavid and Draisaitl would kill Edmonton's cap is completely unfounded.

- buffalofan19



i agree my point was i doubt he'd want to do that given the way the pens structured their team. they prioritized paying core players and found value every else.

Edmontons cap wont be killed by mcdavid and draisaitl. it will be killed by lucic and russell, who have no business being on that team. luckily they have klefbom signed to a team friendly deal.
PassionBucket16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schopp Sucks, NY
Joined: 12.26.2011

Jun 28 @ 9:51 PM ET
Were in on Shattenkirk FYI

Dreger and Pagnotta have said we have had talks. Tomorrow he narrows his list apparently

- sbroads24


Or his agent is using Buffalo to get a bunch of offers because Buffalo always overpays on July 1.
gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Endicott, NY
Joined: 03.03.2015

Jun 28 @ 9:51 PM ET
It's good that Botterill has patience.
- SABRES 89



Lack thereof is what did the last guy in.
PassionBucket16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schopp Sucks, NY
Joined: 12.26.2011

Jun 28 @ 9:53 PM ET
I think the bigger point is that if he wanted Shattenkirk, he could find a way to make it work and still manage the cap. How much he wants him, however, remains to be seen.

Side note: they were talking on Sirius XM today about how a $13 million deal for McDavid would put him at about 17% of the Oilers' cap. That was about the same percentage of the cap as Crosby made up when he signed his deal. The notion that McDavid and Draisaitl would kill Edmonton's cap is completely unfounded.

- buffalofan19


It's not just McDavid. Draisaitl will get 8+ and Lucic is at 7. RNH and Sekera on big money too. 5 guys for half the cap.
Buffalo39
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.10.2015

Jun 28 @ 9:57 PM ET
Dude called f'n Tallinder getting traded back here OUT OF THE BLUE.

or was that Beezer?

That one was still unbelievable to me.

- JVince11

That was me jvince. Tallinder,Kane ,chad Johnson and more
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 28 @ 9:57 PM ET
Jerks
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 28 @ 9:58 PM ET
That was me jvince. Tallinder,Kane ,chad Johnson and more
- Buffalo39

Give us more
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 28 @ 9:58 PM ET
That was me jvince. Tallinder,Kane ,chad Johnson and more
- Buffalo39


Hey 39

I like Chad coming back
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 28 @ 9:58 PM ET
Give us more
- sbroads24

Don't be greedy you little biotch.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 28 @ 9:59 PM ET
It's not just McDavid. Draisaitl will get 8+ and Lucic is at 7. RNH and Sekera on big money too. 5 guys for half the cap.
- PassionBucket16

That's where the Sabres need to be careful.

They can invest heavy in another defender, but the forwards already have 4 guys that will have big $$
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:00 PM ET
Lack thereof is what did the last guy in.
- gcomella34

It was more to it then that but that had some to do with it.
PassionBucket16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schopp Sucks, NY
Joined: 12.26.2011

Jun 28 @ 10:05 PM ET
That's where the Sabres need to be careful.

They can invest heavy in another defender, but the forwards already have 4 guys that will have big $$

- sbroads24


18-19 Sabres
Eichel 9
Reinhart 4.5
O'Reilly 7.5
Okposo 6
Ristolainen 5.4
Moulson 5
Bogosian 5.2
Ennis 4.6

8 players. Approximately 50 million. And we're adding Shattenkirk at 7 per? Doesn't make any sense.
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 28 @ 10:07 PM ET
That was me jvince. Tallinder,Kane ,chad Johnson and more
- Buffalo39


We targeting anyone else?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 28 @ 10:08 PM ET
18-19 Sabres
Eichel 9
Reinhart 4.5
O'Reilly 7.5
Okposo 6
Ristolainen 5.4
Moulson 5
Bogosian 5.2
Ennis 4.6

8 players. Approximately 50 million. And we're adding Shattenkirk at 7 per? Doesn't make any sense.

- PassionBucket16

One of Bogo or Moulson need to be bought out or miraculously traded
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 28 @ 10:09 PM ET
Hey 39

I like Chad coming back

- cabin



Hey, KV. I like Ochotanko coming back, too. Played excellent while he was here last time. Started off well last year, too, then tailed off. Good goalie.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:09 PM ET
18-19 Sabres
Eichel 9
Reinhart 4.5
O'Reilly 7.5
Okposo 6
Ristolainen 5.4
Moulson 5
Bogosian 5.2
Ennis 4.6

8 players. Approximately 50 million. And we're adding Shattenkirk at 7 per? Doesn't make any sense.

- PassionBucket16

His asking price is 7 mill a year, now i'm sure if a team like the Rangers or Tampa call he would be willing to take less, but not from the Sabres he won't.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 28 @ 10:10 PM ET
One of Bogo or Moulson need to be bought out or miraculously traded
- sbroads24


Rather Molson than bogo. Depth at D is all she wants.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:10 PM ET
One of Bogo or Moulson need to be bought out or miraculously traded
- sbroads24

Gotta add sweeteners to move a guy like Moulson or Gorges and we don't have many left to do that.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 28 @ 10:11 PM ET
Hey, KV. I like Ochotanko coming back, too. Played excellent while he was here last time. Started off well last year, too, then tailed off. Good goalie.
- Powerslave



Agreed bud
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:12 PM ET
It's not just McDavid. Draisaitl will get 8+ and Lucic is at 7. RNH and Sekera on big money too. 5 guys for half the cap.
- PassionBucket16


Wonder if anyone offer sheets Draisaitl, maybe the Flyers, they have done it in the past. Do it and trade Couturier (or however you spell that).
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 28 @ 10:12 PM ET
Gotta add sweeteners to move a guy like Moulson or Gorges and we don't have many left to do that.
- SABRES 89


Next years picks added would be a gamble if added . Might be worth it .
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:13 PM ET
Wonder if anyone offer sheets Draisaitl, maybe the Flyers, the have done it in the past. Do it and trade Couturier (or however you spell that).
- BigStew



Anybody that gives Draisaitl an offersheet that he signs is merely doing the Oilers' work for them. 30 other teams know that, and won't waste their time.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:13 PM ET
Next years picks added would be a gamble if added . Might be worth it .
- cabin

Sure but the real question is can you find a taker for Moulson even if you add to the deal.
riptheguard
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.08.2005

Jun 28 @ 10:14 PM ET
It was more to it then that but that had some to do with it.
- SABRES 89


Did you hear other reasons?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 28 @ 10:14 PM ET
Anybody that gives Draisaitl an offersheet that he signs is merely doing the Oilers' work for them. 30 other teams know that, and won't waste their time.
- buffalofan19


Draisaitl reminds me of Rino. Still too raw too judge.
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