Just me, I could give a rats ass about the missing goals from Schenn.

Its another rebuild year, where at best they will have a shot at making some noise in round 1. Future you fools, future!

Just play the kids some quality minutes, let them continue to grow and I shall be pleased.

Yes.

Very far off.
- J35Bacher

Haha, very funny. With morons like you thinking like you do it is obvious the orange and black koolaid has you dillusional. I have been a flyers diehard fan for decades but I can not take much more of this insanity. Poor Ed Snyder would not approve of this gong show and would have canned them all by now. It is great to be optimistic but you have to face reality once in awhile and get a grip on how it really is. Other than having a fantastic future defence the rest of the team is in trouble. Who will stop the puck and who will score the goals. Couter should be the 3C and shutdown man, not a 2C because he can not handle it. Plus being big man that is softer than butter.

Just me, I could give a rats ass about the missing goals from Schenn.

Its another rebuild year, where at best they will have a shot at making some noise in round 1. Future you fools, future!

Just play the kids some quality minutes, let them continue to grow and I shall be pleased.
- flyer_nutter

Yeah sure, let them grow till they are 24 or 25 and trade then for nothing. JVR, Cousins, Schenn come to mind

I wonder if G ever cracks 60 points again. Dudes a total bum. Cant even win a faceoff.

Also, I love the Lehtara (tera) trade even more since I found out he has a smokeshow of a wife.

- jak521

Haha, very funny. With morons like you thinking like you do it is obvious the orange and black koolaid has you dillusional. I have been a flyers diehard fan for decades but I can not take much more of this insanity. Poor Ed Snyder would not approve of this gong show and would have canned them all by now. It is great to be optimistic but you have to face reality once in awhile and get a grip on how it really is. Other than having a fantastic future defence the rest of the team is in trouble. Who will stop the puck and who will score the goals. Couter should be the 3C and shutdown man, not a 2C because he can not handle it. Plus being big man that is softer than butter.
- joegreif17

Delusional.

doomed

Haha, very funny. With morons like you thinking like you do it is obvious the orange and black koolaid has you dillusional. I have been a flyers diehard fan for decades but I can not take much more of this insanity. Poor Ed Snyder would not approve of this gong show and would have canned them all by now. It is great to be optimistic but you have to face reality once in awhile and get a grip on how it really is. Other than having a fantastic future defence the rest of the team is in trouble. Who will stop the puck and who will score the goals. Couter should be the 3C and shutdown man, not a 2C because he can not handle it. Plus being big man that is softer than butter.
- joegreif17

Not sure whether to take seriously...

All of your questions have one quick answer. Its irrelevant. Next years team.

The big picture is what you need to look at, years down the road. The Flyers finally accepted they need to rebuild, and just didnt tank. Dont be fooled into thinking they aren't rebuilding. The team will be good in a few years, for now its still purgatory - but with the kids filtering in.

Just me, I could give a rats ass about the missing goals from Schenn.

Its another rebuild year, where at best they will have a shot at making some noise in round 1. Future you fools, future!

Just play the kids some quality minutes, let them continue to grow and I shall be pleased.
- flyer_nutter

When Patrick has a hat-trick opening night, he'll only need 22 goals over 81 games.

Haha, very funny. With morons like you thinking like you do it is obvious the orange and black koolaid has you dillusional. I have been a flyers diehard fan for decades but I can not take much more of this insanity. Poor Ed Snyder would not approve of this gong show and would have canned them all by now. It is great to be optimistic but you have to face reality once in awhile and get a grip on how it really is. Other than having a fantastic future defence the rest of the team is in trouble. Who will stop the puck and who will score the goals. Couter should be the 3C and shutdown man, not a 2C because he can not handle it. Plus being big man that is softer than butter.
- joegreif17

Yeah sure, let them grow till they are 24 or 25 and trade then for nothing. JVR, Cousins, Schenn come to mind
- joegreif17

I'm optimistic for the forward group going forward, the defense is what I'm worried about. I keep seeing pairings being posted without Amac. Do you think they're going to bury him in the AHL? I don't think they will, Flyers management values Amac a whole lot more than we do. As long as Amac is taking top minutes we won't be a playoff team IMO. I'm not so sure Hagg or any rookies are going to push Amac off the top line. Any goalie that comes in here is going to have a rough go.

I'm a patient guy and excited for the future but I do see the next couple of years as dumpster fire-ish...
- SimmerDown17

Exactly what Steve Mason told me this morning. It is a cluster(frank)

You're not seeing the big picture and are comparing what they might score to what they scored last season rather than thinking about what they might score with the addition of more skill, improved play from players who struggled and what Schenn might have given them.
- MJL

You're the guy worried about replacing Schenn's production and I am not seeing the big picture? He wasn't a long term solution here.

Yeah sure, let them grow till they are 24 or 25 and trade then for nothing. JVR, Cousins, Schenn come to mind
- joegreif17

Sometimes you have to make moves. I would say we all expected JVR, and even Schenn to be better than they were.

I am glad the organization has the balls to look at its core and admit its not good enough sometimes. The alternative is teams like the Rangers. Can win a round or two but never more than that.

I'll end here, kind of weird your posts man.

- Streit2ThePoint

- Streit2ThePoint

This is interesting but streittothepoint

I find it amusing that people who say Hextall inherited a mess, also say Holmgren was a good GM. Seems contradictory to me. Oh well.... company stooges gonna stooge.
- PLindbergh31

I thought Holmgren did his job. He took the worst team in the league. Rebuilt it and went all in to win a cup in just three years. When Pronger was lost and he realized he had gutted the farm he started rebuilding young players and draft picks. If they had won in 2010 we'd all look at it differently. Did he make mistakes... ? They all do.

I'm still not sure if Hextall is a good GM but I sure like what he does at the draft. I hope those promising picks pay off but until then I'm at a wait and see. I'd be happier with the Schenn trade if they had made a better pick (one I liked) at 27 and didn't end up with Lathera.

Right now I'm hopeful. If Hextall offer sheets Draisaitl next season I'll get my tix back.

Since the game isnt just played at 5 v 5 I'm not gonna just dismiss what Schenn added but I don't see how anyone views it as an overly huge loss.

If G and Jake have closee to normal years snd if Coots breaks the 40 point or 20 goal mark plus whatever the young players bring I think we will be okay.
- opeth_pa

Watch out, if you try to say that power play goals matter, it means you're chalking the season up as a loss due to the Schenn trade.

Sometimes you have to make moves. I would say we all expected JVR, and even Schenn to be better than they were.

I am glad the organization has the balls to look at its core and admit its not good enough sometimes. The alternative is teams like the Rangers. Can win a round or two but never more than that.

I'll end here, kind of weird your posts man.
- flyer_nutter

I think JVR trade is just a bad example. Yes the trade was bad, but the circumstances forced it almost. Pronger was down, we just got exposed in the playoffs against the NJD, and JVR was injured most that season. Didn't help He had lengthy injury, came back and then a game or two later broke his leg. Our team had a pretty strong year with him out for a good portion of it which made him even more expendable, imo.

I think we should offer sheet draisaitl

I think we should offer sheet draisaitl
- jmdodgeser4

WHAT!?!?!?!

I think JVR trade is just a bad example. Yes the trade was bad, but the circumstances forced it almost. Pronger was down, we just got exposed in the playoffs against the NJD, and JVR was injured most that season. Didn't help He had lengthy injury, came back and then a game or two later broke his leg.
- arichardson22

Meh. I just feel like we are Frodo on the way to Mount doom the last few years. I dont even care what the hell happened, but I can finally see the light coming.

When Patrick has a hat-trick opening night, he'll only need 22 goals over 81 games.
- arichardson22

Clearly Patrick will score 5 goals on opening night to outdo Mr. Matthews from last year.

I thought Holmgren did his job. He took the worst team in the league. Rebuilt it and went all in to win a cup in just three years. When Pronger was lost and he realized he had gutted the farm he started rebuilding young players and draft picks. If they had won in 2010 we'd all look at it differently. Did he make mistakes... ? They all do.

I'm still not sure if Hextall is a good GM but I sure like what he does at the draft. I hope those promising picks pay off but until then I'm at a wait and see. I'd be happier with the Schenn trade if they had made a better pick (one I liked) at 27 and didn't end up with Lathera.

Right now I'm hopeful. If Hextall offer sheets Draisaitl next season I'll get my tix back.
- mayorofangrytown

I agree it would be totally viewed differently if they had won in 2010.
Playing devils advocate say the Flyers lose that shootout to the Rags in game 82, then what is Holmgren's legacy?

I think JVR trade is just a bad example. Yes the trade was bad, but the circumstances forced it almost. Pronger was down, we just got exposed in the playoffs against the NJD, and JVR was injured most that season. Didn't help He had lengthy injury, came back and then a game or two later broke his leg.
- arichardson22

Yeah I though the medical staff dropped him for the leg break. Then couldn't find him after the dark room concussion protocol. But he was just in the bathroom closet.

WHAT!?!?!?!
- mayorofangrytown

Please. I was posting about him a long time ago.