So all the experts around the league who are lauding Hextall for the work he has done are wrong but hockeybuzz posters have it all correct?

Just checking
- J35Bacher

So what you are saying is you like losing and the direction this team is heading. I guess you have short memories of how bad this team has been run in the last few years. J. Williams, P. Sharp, trading JVR for L. Schenn, omg letting Vezina trophy winner S. Bobrovsky get away, oh Hartnell for Umberger was awesome, getting nothing in return for Cousins and Madsen, not resigning Jagr was a mistake, not getting Weal signed was on Hextall as he had his chance and screwed it up, trading Schenn for Lehtara an overpaid cull and two picks is dumb, signing MacDonald for long term at big bucks when the islanders waived him because he was useless. You wonder why I am pissed, how can you argue with the above. Really am I that far off??

I agree.. I also love the fact that we have two picks in round one again next year... Could even package them to move up again... Who knows.

Ultimately, we are just starting to open the window. The next 2 years will be introductory, but year 3 should see them as true contenders..
- jak521

Yup. Just my guess, but I think he doesn't give a (frank) about G and V. He's going to build this thing his way and if they can contribute so be it, but the core pieces of this club are changing.

Bout time we raised our standards.

Pellelindberg31 has it right, nothing good will happen with trading of Schenn, a player approaching his prime years and the the top goal scorer on his team. As for the rest of you morons who are drinking the Kool Aid Hextall is giving away for free I feel sorry for you. For every good move Hextall makes three bonehead mistakes! By the way just talked to my buddy Steve and he is signing in Winnipeg on Saturday. He has given me inside info on the gong show going on in Philly and 10 million a year would not bring him back.
- joegreif17

This team is in a better position now then it was 5 years ago. The window is starting to open and Hextall has them in a way better position moving forward.
- J35Bacher

These are the big contracts Hextall had in 2014 - Hartnell $4.75M, Lecavalier $6M, Grossman $3.5M, Pronger $4M, Luke Schenn $3.3M, Street $6.1M, Mason $4.1M

http://www.foxsports.com/...s-team-roster?season=2014

Anybody want to go back to those days?

So what you are saying is you like losing and the direction this team is heading. I guess you have short memories of how bad this team has been run in the last few years. J. Williams, P. Sharp, trading JVR for L. Schenn, omg letting Vezina trophy winner S. Bobrovsky get away, oh Hartnell for Umberger was awesome, getting nothing in return for Cousins and Madsen, not resigning Jagr was a mistake, not getting Weal signed was on Hextall as he had his chance and screwed it up, trading Schenn for Lehtara an overpaid cull and two picks is dumb, signing MacDonald for long term at big bucks when the islanders waived him because he was useless. You wonder why I am pissed, how can you argue with the above. Really am I that far off??
- joegreif17

well Hextall didnt do most of those things sooooo

edit: do you just not believe that Hextall has done anything well? or are you just riling up the fan base on this slow news day?

Really am I that far off??
- joegreif17

yes

Last name Carle?
- PLindbergh31

Haha no. Would love that. Millions for working out and working half the year? It's a shame that Winnipeg street hockey didn't develop me further.

Yup. Just my guess, but I think he doesn't give a (frank) about G and V. He's going to build this thing his way and if they can contribute so be it, but the core pieces of this club are changing.

Bout time we raised our standards.
- flyer_nutter

I would think he cares a lot about his 2 long term 8 million dollar players.

So what you are saying is you like losing and the direction this team is heading. I guess you have short memories of how bad this team has been run in the last few years. J. Williams, P. Sharp, trading JVR for L. Schenn, omg letting Vezina trophy winner S. Bobrovsky get away, oh Hartnell for Umberger was awesome, getting nothing in return for Cousins and Madsen, not resigning Jagr was a mistake, not getting Weal signed was on Hextall as he had his chance and screwed it up, trading Schenn for Lehtara an overpaid cull and two picks is dumb, signing MacDonald for long term at big bucks when the islanders waived him because he was useless. You wonder why I am pissed, how can you argue with the above. Really am I that far off??
- joegreif17

He's right you guys

yes
- Mordecai

shhhh he'll figure it out eventually

well Hextall didnt do most of those things sooooo

edit: do you just not believe that Hextall has done anything well? or are you just riling up the fan base on this slow news day?
- bulet13

If by riling up you mean making us laugh, he's doing a great job.

Raffl had 22 points in 13-14. Gagne had zero.



Hilarious hypocrisy coming from the guy who has his tongue stuck all the way up Matt Murray's bumhole.

No one ever said Hextall was doing a tear down, and yet he has amassed the best prospect pool in the the league while keeping his two leading scorers, Giroux and Voracek.
- Feanor

omfg

He's right you guys
- Streit2ThePoint

don't tempt him

I would think he cares a lot about his 2 long term 8 million dollar players.
- Baxter27

Not that he doesnt "care" but I'm happy he is not trying to rush to contention because of the age of those two.

Haha no. Would love that. Millions for working out and working half the year? It's a shame that Winnipeg street hockey didn't develop me further.
- flyer_nutter

Remember people defending Carle? Saying he wasn't a product of being carried by Pronger. I wonder why big Matt is out of the NHL at 32

I thought he got it going pretty good at time. Though went Hartnell was feeling it he would score hat tricks at will.
- Baxter27

Hartsy was like automatic with it. I remember one game against Boston he had 3 goals that way. the classic down on one knee ripper. Schenn improved on it, but it took a while. Can't tell you how many times he'd whiff or miss net wide (over the years). Was always a reminder on the biggest thing i missed about Harsty.

Remember people defending Carle? Saying he wasn't a product of being carried by Pronger. I wonder why big Matt is out of the NHL at 32
- PLindbergh31

Ahhhh I do I do. Same as the arguments over Nodl lol. Can't join you as much lately though. I'm actually pretty happy about the direction of things. Goaltending aside, it's looking beautiful. The Lehtera dump was needed to get the return. It's a long rebuild that isn't done yet but we are getting there.

Raffl had 22 points in 13-14. Gagne had zero.



Hilarious hypocrisy coming from the guy who has his tongue stuck all the way up Matt Murray's bumhole.

No one ever said Hextall was doing a tear down, and yet he has amassed the best prospect pool in the the league while keeping his two leading scorers, Giroux and Voracek.
- Feanor

Stolarz will tap dance on Murray's skull next year. If his blown out knee holds up.

So what you are saying is you like losing and the direction this team is heading. I guess you have short memories of how bad this team has been run in the last few years. J. Williams, P. Sharp, trading JVR for L. Schenn, omg letting Vezina trophy winner S. Bobrovsky get away, oh Hartnell for Umberger was awesome, getting nothing in return for Cousins and Madsen, not resigning Jagr was a mistake, not getting Weal signed was on Hextall as he had his chance and screwed it up, trading Schenn for Lehtara an overpaid cull and two picks is dumb, signing MacDonald for long term at big bucks when the islanders waived him because he was useless. You wonder why I am pissed, how can you argue with the above. Really am I that far off??
- joegreif17

Yes, yes you are... Okay now where to start.

Islanders didnt "waive" MacDonald. They traded him for two seconds. Way worse... the Flyers gave up (gasp) actual picks for him. Then they signed him to a terrible contract.

Last few years (ill give you 5 as a few). Welp, Sharp is 36 turning 37 and was traded over a decade ago. Williams before that. So..... But I get your point.. really bad trades. So was that trade we made with Atlanta where we sent some old crummy Russian d-man for some young big nosed turd who did nothing but end up getting us Konecny and Gudas. Terrible moves.

Then there was Bob debacle. Guy had a hell of a first year.... until he made it to the playoffs. WOOF. He was so bad he pulled himself and said he had no confidence. Lava then over reacted and wouldnt play him again. They go out and sign a bonefide goalie (albeit one seriously off of his rocker, but he did win a cup) to an insane contract. Thanks ED (RIP! I take it back, but you can keep the bracelet)... Bob then wouldnt resign so we traded him and the pick we got ended up turning into someone special IIRC..

Ok then the Schenn for JvR trade happe.... (frank) it, cant defend that one. I hated it then and still do now.

Schenn for Lehtera (or Tara, your pick) was bad. They had to send two firsts to STL just to get them to take Schenn. --- Oh wait, we got to firsts? Hmm, ill give it an incomplete as for now.

Also, There was a serious rumor going around and I want to speak my part on it now. No, I had nothing to do with Hartnells divorce.

So what you are saying is you like losing and the direction this team is heading.
- joegreif17

Yup any hockey fan that has more knowledge than the typical"do something , hit sumbody" type fan is happy with the direction they are going..

1. Stacked with defensive prospects, at least a few of which should make the team this year.
2. Multiple goaltending and forward prospects.

Have they made bad trades before, yup.
Will they make bad trades again, yup.

Wait I could just sum this up by saying...Obvious troll is obvious.

How cool would it be if Marleau and Thornton sign deals in NY and made a charge next year for the cup with the Rangers and basically gutted them for three years while falling in the first round?

I could enjoy that.

Also, There was a serious rumor going around and I want to speak my part on it now. No, I had nothing to do with Hartnells divorce.
- jak521

Wait, what?

Hartsy was like automatic with it. I remember one game against Boston he had 3 goals that way. the classic down on one knee ripper. Schenn improved on it, but it took a while. Can't tell you how many times he'd whiff or miss net wide (over the years). Was always a reminder on the biggest thing i missed about Harsty.
- arichardson22

Well they're going to have a new power play coach so I doubt they're going to use the same scheme. But if so, they need another left handed shooter to take advantage of that space.

Yup. Just my guess, but I think he doesn't give a (frank) about G and V. He's going to build this thing his way and if they can contribute so be it, but the core pieces of this club are changing.

Bout time we raised our standards.
- flyer_nutter

I totally disagree with that part.. The core is and will be the same until they have a trade that they just cant say no to...

Ahhhh I do I do. Same as the arguments over Nodl lol. Can't join you as much lately though. I'm actually pretty happy about the direction of things. Goaltending aside, it's looking beautiful. The Lehtera dump was needed to get the return. It's a long rebuild that isn't done yet but we are getting there.
- flyer_nutter

I wonder how Giroux and Voracek will be producing at the time when all the prospects hit. 8+ million dollar 30 point guys?