no you're right, it certainly doesn't scream ELITE or NHL lock by any means, but I really hate losing prospects/picks for nothing. Russian factor needs to be taken into account when drafting.
- Codes1087

I agree, I'd prefer to draft them in the 4th round and later only, but usually the ones playing in the CHL are safer bets to stay.

Zhuke was a 4th round pick, my issue was that his upside wasn't really worth picking him there if you weight his realistic upside as a bottom 6 player against him being Russian and/or not being skilled enough for the NHL.

If you're going to draft a Russian, do it late, but also make it more a boom/bust pick with a chance to hit a lottery, and not just a 3rd/4th liner at best. Otherwise you might as well draft someone else.

This is funny. Green is known to not trust young players in the AHL. Awards ice time to vets... even the poopty ones.

- boonerbuck

Some seem to think next year will be completely different. I think one young player might see an increased role, possibly 2. Less of a chance if they bring in someone like Weal/Yak/Grig to eat those minutes

Ryan Miller - 1 year, 1 million to Anaheim is the expectation - Elliot Friedman

I agree, I'd prefer to draft them in the 4th round and later only, but usually the ones playing in the CHL are safer bets to stay.

Zhuke was a 4th round pick, my issue was that his upside wasn't really worth picking him there if you weight his realistic upside as a bottom 6 player against him being Russian and/or not being skilled enough for the NHL.

If you're going to draft a Russian, do it late, but also make it more a boom/bust pick with a chance to hit a lottery, and not just a 3rd/4th liner at best. Otherwise you might as well draft someone else.
- Nucker101

I can see your points with that.

The good news is that both Jasek and Zhukenov signing 2 year deal will give us 1 year after their deals are done to work on an ELC to retain rights. Depending on their development of course. Not worst case scenario.

Ryan Miller - 1 year, 1 million to Anaheim is the expectation - Elliot Friedman
- Codes1087

I can see your points with that.

The good news is that both Jasek and Zhukenov signing 2 year deal will give us 1 year after their deals are done to work on an ELC to retain rights. Depending on their development of course. Not worst case scenario.
- Codes1087

Yeah, no doubt.

Ryan Miller - 1 year, 1 million to Anaheim is the expectation - Elliot Friedman
- Codes1087

for real?

Some seem to think next year will be completely different. I think one young player might see an increased role, possibly 2. Less of a chance if they bring in someone like Weal/Yak/Grig to eat those minutes
- WhiteLie

I think ice time will be dished out much in the same manner as WD. The trust will be with the vets as usual. I really didn't see WD handling the kids much different than any other coach in the NHL to be honest. Some have been way worse than him in the past... even here like AV.

I think ice time will be dished out much in the same manner as WD. The trust will be with the vets as usual. I really didn't see WD handling the kids much different than any other coach in the NHL to be honest. Some have been way worse than him in the past... even here like AV.
- boonerbuck

Agreed, I do think Green pays a little more attention to things like zone starts and a few other metrics, which will help situational advantages for players. But in terms of actual minutes I also think it will be pretty close

the swaying back and forth was legendary though
- Codes1087

(frank) Willie annoyed me

(frank) Willie annoyed me
- CanuckDon

Yeah, his nervous ticks freaked me out.

Ryan Miller - 1 year, 1 million to Anaheim is the expectation - Elliot Friedman
- Codes1087

No (frank)ing way

(frank) Willie annoyed me
- CanuckDon

AV chewed gum like a cow too.

No (frank)ing way
- CanuckDon

from 6M x 3 Years to 1x1...that's what happens when a GM is actually aware that a guy only wants to play for 4-5 teams max and most of them already have starters

AV chewed gum like a cow too.
- Codes1087

AV was way more normal..Torts was cray cray and WD was a nervous old man

from 6M x 3 Years to 1x1...that's what happens when a GM is actually aware that a guy only wants to play for 4-5 teams max and most of them already have starters
- Nucker101

If true that's an awesome signing for Anaheim

AV was way more normal..Torts was cray cray and WD was a nervous old man
- Nucker101

Lol I liked AV – deploys a pretty boring style of hockey but effective none-the-less. The guy chewed gum like a god damn camel though.

If true that's an awesome signing for Anaheim
- CanuckDon

Yeah, pretty great value.

Lol I liked AV – deploys a pretty boring style of hockey but effective none-the-less. The guy chewed gum like a god damn camel though.
- Codes1087

I probably would too, there's definitely a lot of stress involved and you have to deal with it somehow or you'll lose your mind. Either chew gum like a mad man, yell at everyone like torts, or look like a psychopath like WD

Agreed, I do think Green pays a little more attention to things like zone starts and a few other metrics, which will help situational advantages for players. But in terms of actual minutes I also think it will be pretty close
- WhiteLie

He'll coach differently in those regards, agreed.

Lol I liked AV – deploys a pretty boring style of hockey but effective none-the-less. The guy chewed gum like a god damn camel though.
- Codes1087

Lozenges

Ryan Miller - 1 year, 1 million to Anaheim is the expectation - Elliot Friedman
- Codes1087

NHL ready, don't put so much pressure on the kid. There is a difference between NHL ready and Canuck ready.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Good point. My mistake.

Some seem to think next year will be completely different. I think one young player might see an increased role, possibly 2. Less of a chance if they bring in someone like Weal/Yak/Grig to eat those minutes
- WhiteLie

Ryan Miller - 1 year, 1 million to Anaheim is the expectation - Elliot Friedman
- Codes1087