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ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 29 @ 10:12 AM ET
Arthur Staple‏Verified account @StapeNewsday 16s17 seconds ago

As I wrote last week, Barzal was strictly off the table in any Duchene deal.

- eichiefs9


Makes sense.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 29 @ 10:13 AM ET
It's very fair. Hamonic and a 1st and Nelson would be more than fair.
- ses111

Well Staple said a prospect. My guess is Toews or Wotherspoon. Maybe even Pulock, but I doubt that. Hate him or hate him, Snow played this correctly.

Now Sakic's standing there with his dick in his hand. I'd just keep low-balling him and see if he budges. If not, good luck Mr. Burnaby Joe.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jun 29 @ 10:13 AM ET
Which makes the Hamonic for draft picks even more of a head scratcher........unless Sakic was demanding way more than Hammer, and Snow just gave up after a while. Because if the demand was Hammer, a first, and say, Nelson........most of us would have done it.

Edit: Just read subsequent post with Staples tweets..... Sakic is nuts, and Snow did what he had to do....

- JohnScammo

According to what Chiefs just posted, Sakic wanted a hell of a lot more than the offer of Hammer, pick & prospect.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jun 29 @ 10:13 AM ET
See my edits.

Snow did the right thing here. 100%

Hamonic+1st+prospect is more than fair for 2 years of Duchene and the risk that he either may not sign or may cost a ton to re-sign. I'd rather go after Galchenyuk now.

- eichiefs9

Yup. See my edit, too. Sakic is nuts. No wonder his team had the league's worst record.
Dedshark
New York Islanders
Location: Amityville, NY
Joined: 04.01.2008

Jun 29 @ 10:13 AM ET
I'm waiting for the "I drank to much apology tour" tomorrow
- nyisles7


I just lost my shat sitting at work, I can't control my laughing. Only because he literally just berated me the other night while drunk lmao
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jun 29 @ 10:14 AM ET
See my edits.

Snow did the right thing here. 100%

Hamonic+1st+prospect is more than fair for 2 years of Duchene and the risk that he either may not sign or may cost a ton to re-sign. I'd rather go after Galchenyuk now.

- eichiefs9

Agreed.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 29 @ 10:14 AM ET
If he plays like he did in the Panthers playoff series on a consistent basis, he most certainly is worth it.
- Dedshark

That's an IF
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 29 @ 10:15 AM ET
I just lost my shat sitting at work, I can't control my laughing. Only because he literally just berated me the other night while drunk lmao
- Dedshark

I didn't berate you. Wasn't directed at you Jesus H Christ
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 29 @ 10:15 AM ET
That's an IF
- Cptmjl

I thought we agreed to drop this
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 29 @ 10:15 AM ET
Well Staple said a prospect. My guess is Toews or Wotherspoon. Maybe even Pulock, but I doubt that. Hate him or hate him, Snow played this correctly.

Now Sakic's standing there with his dick in his hand. I'd just keep low-balling him and see if he budges. If not, good luck Mr. Burnaby Joe.

- eichiefs9


Garth did play this correctly. You cannot give up Barzal for a guy that can walk in two years. Giving up Barzal for someone like Drouin would be very different.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 29 @ 10:17 AM ET
I thought we agreed to drop this
- eichiefs9

I didn't make that deal with him
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jun 29 @ 10:18 AM ET
Well Staple said a prospect. My guess is Toews or Wotherspoon. Maybe even Pulock, but I doubt that. Hate him or hate him, Snow played this correctly.

Now Sakic's standing there with his dick in his hand. I'd just keep low-balling him and see if he budges. If not, good luck Mr. Burnaby Joe.

- eichiefs9


Yep. There will be a tipping point that Sakic hits where the offers will continue to be less and dwindle. I'd laugh my ass off if he ended up holding on to him so long he only ended up getting a 1st & a mid-level prospect or lost him for nothing (don't see that happenin, but)
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jun 29 @ 10:19 AM ET
I didn't berate you. Wasn't directed at you Jesus H Christ
- Cptmjl


God almighty, Capt. Don't you have a bottle to warm up or something?
Dedshark
New York Islanders
Location: Amityville, NY
Joined: 04.01.2008

Jun 29 @ 10:19 AM ET
Arthur Staple‏Verified account @StapeNewsday 24s25 seconds ago

As for Tavares, betting it was all smiles over at CAA and some groans in #Islses FO when McDavid numbers came out. JT's price just went up.




Arthur Staple‏Verified account @StapeNewsday 15s15 seconds ago

Feeling for months was that JT would command eight years and north of $10m AAV... Now? $12m per doesn't sound so crazy.

- eichiefs9


CPTs head is going to explode if he reads this
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 29 @ 10:20 AM ET
Well Staple said a prospect. My guess is Toews or Wotherspoon. Maybe even Pulock, but I doubt that. Hate him or hate him, Snow played this correctly.

Now Sakic's standing there with his dick in his hand. I'd just keep low-balling him and see if he budges. If not, good luck Mr. Burnaby Joe.

- eichiefs9

I think Sakic is a (frank)ing moron and I also think a lot on here overrated Duchene but I would've included Toews or wotherspoon if I had too. Pulock no especially now bcs we need him also no to Barzal.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 29 @ 10:21 AM ET
CPTs head is going to explode if he reads this

- Dedshark

I'd in all honesty start fielding offers for him now. That's (frank)ing absurd. We have 10 million tied up in our 4th line now were going to tie up 12 million in one player ?
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jun 29 @ 10:21 AM ET
Garth did play this correctly. You cannot give up Barzal for a guy that can walk in two years. Giving up Barzal for someone like Drouin would be very different.
- ses111


Yeah he did. Especially if he sent Hamonic out of spite (as in Sakic didn't want to pull the trigger, so Snow did, using the guy that Sakic wanted). We all pretty much knew that Hammer was getting traded, it was just to what team.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 29 @ 10:21 AM ET
God almighty, Capt. Don't you have a bottle to warm up or something?
- Isleshockeyman

You bet your arse I do
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 29 @ 10:22 AM ET
Yep. There will be a tipping point that Sakic hits where the offers will continue to be less and dwindle. I'd laugh my ass off if he ended up holding on to him so long he only ended up getting a 1st & a mid-level prospect or lost him for nothing (don't see that happenin, but)
- Isleshockeyman

I don't know what other market there is for him.

NSH is the only team I can think of that: a) has the need and b) can afford to part with a top-4 defenseman. Have to think Ellis would be the guy they'd trade, because trading Subban/Josi/Ekholm would be stupid.

If Sakic balked at 1st/Hamonic/prospect there's no way he can possibly take Maatta back as a centerpiece from PIT.

I don't know who else is out there than can afford his cap hit, the cost of acquisition, and has the need. Maybe CAR?
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jun 29 @ 10:22 AM ET
You bet your arse I do
- Cptmjl


How's it going this morning, Capt.?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 29 @ 10:23 AM ET
I'd in all honesty start fielding offers for him now. That's (frank)ing absurd
- Cptmjl


I really want JT back, but 12 mill is nuts anyway you look at it.
Dedshark
New York Islanders
Location: Amityville, NY
Joined: 04.01.2008

Jun 29 @ 10:23 AM ET
I didn't berate you. Wasn't directed at you Jesus H Christ
- Cptmjl


well thats how i took it mutha f*cker
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 29 @ 10:24 AM ET

How's it going this morning, Capt.?

- Isleshockeyman

Pretty good. New house is done with renovation I'm off = Get ready for some more berating later
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 29 @ 10:25 AM ET
well thats how i took it mutha f*cker
- Dedshark

You probably deserved it anyway
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jun 29 @ 10:25 AM ET
I don't know what other market there is for him.

NSH is the only team I can think of that: a) has the need and b) can afford to part with a top-4 defenseman. Have to think Ellis would be the guy they'd trade, because trading Subban/Josi/Ekholm would be stupid.

If Sakic balked at 1st/Hamonic/prospect there's no way he can possibly take Maatta back as a centerpiece from PIT.

I don't know who else is out there than can afford his cap hit, the cost of acquisition, and has the need. Maybe CAR?

- eichiefs9


AZ. But, they're not even close to being in a place where adding Duch would put them over the top as far as competitiveness goes. They've got the pieces and the cap space but definitely don't see that happening.
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